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post 1668671263 09-29-2022, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By leafs43
It's still good money even if it s California. Some miscers are delusional.
Good money for central valley California. Definitely not good money for bay area where typical 1bd apartments go for $3k+/mo and 3/2 starter homes are near $1m. I know of too many guys who make near top end of that range in milpitas and san jose and still have to live with roommates. Of course you can find cheaper housing and commute but now you're adding additional 1hr commute each way, bridge tolls and wear/tear on vehicle. It's soul sucking.
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post 1668674173 09-29-2022, 03:06 PM
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post 1668674293 09-29-2022, 03:08 PM
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Das it. I'm interviewing with Apple on Monday, ty for the data.
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post 1668674483 09-29-2022, 03:12 PM
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lol all of that hard work to still live like a peasant in overpriced city

feeling smug on my 65k thumb twiddling officecel WFH job in low cost of living area
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post 1668675903 09-29-2022, 03:42 PM
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I have to admit, the way some of these companies have been able to turn themselves into a kind of cult is fascinating. Google, Apple etc..

How they have managed to make employees feel like they are part of something big and important when really they are just widgets.

Having pods so they can sleep overnight, leaving offices open on weekends. The way they clap and cheer their CEO like some dear leader (Steve Jobs). These are supposedly intelligent people who are being used and loving it.

Would love to hear from people who have worked at these places.
post 1668675983 09-29-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By alain
I have to admit, the way some of these companies have been able to turn themselves into a kind of cult is fascinating. Google, Apple etc..

How they have managed to make employees feel like they are part of something big and important when really they are just widgets.

Having pods so they can sleep overnight, leaving offices open on weekends. The way they clap and cheer their CEO like some dear leader (Steve Jobs). These are supposedly intelligent people who are being used and loving it.

Would love to hear from people who have worked at these places.
well if you are going to be working full time, might as well get paid 100k for it.
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post 1668676513 09-29-2022, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86
It is good money, but it's also lower than I would have managed (that's what she said.) I'm surprised.
Take a way all the foreign born labor in those positions and those salaries would be double.

Silicon Valley alone is upward of 70% foreign born(thats with visa limits)
post 1668676723 09-29-2022, 03:57 PM
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I have Google's salaries but I don't feel like copy/pasting all that chit.
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post 1668676963 09-29-2022, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
well if you are going to be working full time, might as well get paid 100k for it.
How much overtime do you think they put in. If you work it out at an hourly rate it usually doesn't work out to be much.
post 1668677033 09-29-2022, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan
Isn't that kind of low for california?
It's not impressive, that's for sure.
post 1668677093 09-29-2022, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By redraider86
It is good money, but it's also lower than I would have managed (that's what she said.) I'm surprised.
******** pay better, known as one of the T1 employers.
post 1668680263 09-29-2022, 05:13 PM
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To be honest I would have expected more money.
Lol, lmfao
post 1668683763 09-29-2022, 06:16 PM
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This is just base salary -- for many engineers that's less than half of their total comp.
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post 1668684243 09-29-2022, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan
Isn't that kind of low for california?
was thinking the same thing.
post 1668684333 09-29-2022, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted By niospecv
If you're single you can survive on a 6 figure salary in a modest apartment. Granted, they would be paying 4-5k on rent. That is like half or more than half their take home pay. Many of them end up getting a roommate that works in the same company or in tech in general.
that's just sad really.
working at apple and can't even afford a house?
post 1668684393 09-29-2022, 06:28 PM
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What about the salaries they pay the 10 year old Chinese kids to actually make the stuff?
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post 1668684563 09-29-2022, 06:31 PM
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Fuk about to apply.

No qualifications I have whatsoever nor any degree. I should be able to hit that 200k job.
post 1668686313 09-29-2022, 07:08 PM
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That's honestly disappointing srs. I would have thought the top end would be basically 2x what they are due to being based in california.
post 1668686523 09-29-2022, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
What about the salaries they pay the 10 year old Chinese kids to actually make the stuff?
India:

Apple manufacturing Engineer $5-$7/year
post 1668686873 09-29-2022, 07:22 PM
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Like others said, I expected much more. They probably move on and manage other engineers or something through a number of corporate titles, product ownership, leading initiatives/projects, etc. Salary likely increases based on that stuff, if not directly, then through options and whatnot.
post 1668687213 09-29-2022, 07:27 PM
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I'd like to see the executive level salaries/compensation packages.
post 1668688453 09-29-2022, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
that's just sad really.
working at apple and can't even afford a house?
You can't afford a house in any city that has tech jobs. The engineers I know back in Texas are living in 1-beds in Austin and Dallas. Salaries out there are $80k-$100k on the lower rungs, and houses are $500k + 2% property tax.

It's just as unaffordable as California, frankly. In either one, you are not owning a home without two professional salaries or a gift from your parents. And don't get me started on Idaho.
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post 1668688563 09-29-2022, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By niospecv
It's incredible that some software engineers make $1 million in salary.
I think that amount of compensation is exclusively for VP / executive level. You have to be managing people. The compensation includes salary, stock (vests every 3 months in some cases), options (often worthless due to strike price, but sometimes you'll get lucky) and bonus that pays out 1-3x a year.

When you get to that level you are rolling in it, but the creativity is shut off and you are dealing with admin BS which is what a lot of talented software engineers hate about it. However, it's golden handcuffs. The dream is to go from one start up that either goes public or get sold, then to another then the next. (This allows hands on creativity and very little dealings with HR bs, then a big windfall in the end). It can happen more than once - I've seen it.
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There is no way this is full compensation for these roles
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Wrt management compensation, it's not as high as you might think, at least on the front lines.

I basically work at a union shop with really strict pay bands. Judging off those, my old manager with 20+ years exp and a bunch of patents was making $250k base + $80k/yr stock. Filing taxes as a single dude, he was pocketing about $160k base.

My new manager's a guy with 15-ish years experience, and he is getting about $200k base and $60k/yr stock. He's married, so he walks away with about $145k base.

The stock was the fun part when it tripled over a decade during the Fed bull, but the base isn't going to blow anyone away. ETA: the annual bonuses aren't anything wild either, and annual raises are standard 2% corporate America bullchit.
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post 1668688883 09-29-2022, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted By TheUniBrah
There is no way this is full compensation for these roles
Probably leaving out bonuses, which are often 25% - 30% of salary based on performance of the company and individual.
post 1668689743 09-29-2022, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Most professionals are married to other professionals
This.
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post 1668689973 09-29-2022, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Schnitzl
India:

Apple manufacturing Engineer $5-$7/year
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post 1668690143 09-29-2022, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Most professionals are married to other professionals
Sigh. That's the goal mayne, although circuit Chad here is having 0 fukking luck.
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post 1668691753 09-29-2022, 09:06 PM
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If you bought your house in 1999 then 2 salaries of $150K goes a long way, not including stock options and bonuses.
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