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post 1668786993 10-01-2022, 07:59 PM
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Does Misc know about a hacking tool called the flipper zero?

It can scan anything with a wave signal and capture it. So let’s say I’m behind your car and you use your auto remote start , I can capture the signal and steal your car after I save the wave signal .

It works with other stuff too .

This video is 100% real. Like o said you capture the wave signal and save it and you can use it .
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seems legit

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post 1668788133 10-01-2022, 08:30 PM
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post 1668788183 10-01-2022, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By KochZucker⏩
seems legit

It actually is. That’s just the user face. You have to install certain files and firmware
post 1668788433 10-01-2022, 08:39 PM
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I don't think recording an rf signal is revolutionary brother.
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post 1668788503 10-01-2022, 08:41 PM
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you get the signal from my remote start you gain the power to warm up my engine, congrats bro
post 1668788523 10-01-2022, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I don't think recording an rf signal is revolutionary brother.
It is tho. You can capture any rf signal even download some rf signals off the internet like Tesla signals and have them
post 1668788553 10-01-2022, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By IPoopStandingUp⏩
you get the signal from my remote start you gain the power to warm up my engine, congrats bro
Ok but you still don’t have the original key. The car thinks the key is inside but it’s on the flipper.
post 1668788873 10-01-2022, 08:53 PM
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dude its not 1983 anymore. codes arent reused. youre not gonna get chit from on handshake. stick to aircrack-ng and ruining your neighbors wanks with deauth
post 1668789053 10-01-2022, 08:58 PM
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Professional car thieves of high-end cars can remotely duplicate the keyfob, they just get close to the front door because most people keep their keys at the entrance.

They even sell signal blocker boxes to put your car keys in:

post 1668789123 10-01-2022, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By PinochetFan⏩
dude its not 1983 anymore. codes arent reused. youre not gonna get chit from on handshake. stick to aircrack-ng and ruining your neighbors wanks with deauth
This ain’t what it’s for. It captures the start signal and can be started by pressing the button after the rf is captured
post 1668789483 10-01-2022, 09:10 PM
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I dunno if it's that simple. They don't need to use a fixed decoding key every time; if you use time (some internal manipulation of) as an input* to a hashcode generator, and each side (FOB+car) is similarly aware, then the keycode changes with time.

I believe banking FOBs work like that.

*plus a fixed internal keycode
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post 1668789553 10-01-2022, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By BraddlesMcGee⏩
I dunno if it's that simple. They don't need to use a fixed decoding key every time; if you use time (some internal manipulation of) as an input to a hashcode generator, and each side (FOB+car) is similarly aware, then the keycode changes with time.

I believe banking FOBs work like that.
It is that simple. The firmware they use is highly illegal that’s why it’s a hacking tool. It’s 100% real and that simple .

They don’t need what you put above . Look at other videos of youtubers scanning key fobs
post 1668789753 10-01-2022, 09:18 PM
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You are getting it a little wrong
I did some work for a company developing something to combat this
They are not taking the signal from the keyless remote (lock unlock start)
They are taking the signal from the keyless access portion. (key in pocket pull handle)
Issue with it is it doesn't matter how encrypted it is. All they need to do is extend the range
They are doing relay attacks.
One antenna near the key, broadcast the signal to another and broadcast to the car. (they just need to get near where your key is)
Pull handle and car unlocks because it thinks the key is in range and they car start the car and drive off
This way you do not need to decode or "hack" or break encryption. You are just extending the range

This is only working on keyless access/push to start vehicles. Not vehicles with traditional keys
(they have another huge flaw with those)

Another huge flaw is with current Chryslers vehicles. They are full out hacked and anyone can take them with a tool for $600
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post 1668789803 10-01-2022, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By AndrewTateTopG⏩
It is that simple. The firmware they use is highly illegal that’s why it’s a hacking tool. It’s 100% real and that simple .

They don’t need what you put above . Look at other videos of youtubers scanning key fobs
Actually yeah I have heard of it and know cars are getting knicked that way. In England I think especially. Houses right up against the road and the FOB is left up front near the car. I suspect some Googlijng will inform me they are just poorly implemented.

At a minimum the FOB should require a manual key press to transmit the signal. If it's not transmitting it's useless to anyone scanning the airwaves.
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post 1668789893 10-01-2022, 09:21 PM
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[QUOTE=helpmee;1668789753]
They are taking the signal from the keyless access portion. (key in pocket pull handle)
Issue with it is it doesn't matter how encrypted it is. All they need to do is extend the range
[QUOTE]

Thanks. That's just a lazy bones feature. How hard is it to press a button?
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Originally Posted By helpmee⏩
You are getting it a little wrong
I did some work for a company developing something to combat this
They are not taking the signal from the keyless remote (lock unlock start)
They are taking the signal from the keyless access portion. (key in pocket pull handle)
Issue with it is it doesn't matter how encrypted it is. All they need to do is extend the range
They are doing relay attacks.
One antenna near the key, broadcast the signal to another and broadcast to the car. (they just need to get near where your key is)
Pull handle and car unlocks because it thinks the key is in range and they car start the car and drive off
This way you do not need to decode or "hack" or break encryption. You are just extending the range

This is only working on keyless access/push to start vehicles. Not vehicles with traditional keys
(they have another huge flaw with those)

Another huge flaw is with current Chryslers vehicles. They are full out hacked and anyone can take them with a tool for $600
Yeah it won’t work on my Camaro because u need the key in to drive but you can start it with the flipper
post 1668789963 10-01-2022, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BraddlesMcGee⏩
Actually yeah I have heard of it and know cars are getting knicked that way. In England I think especially. Houses right up against the road and the FOB is left up front near the car. I suspect some Googlijng will inform me they are just poorly implemented.

At a minimum the FOB should require a manual key press to transmit the signal. If it's not transmitting it's useless to anyone scanning the airwaves.
I pulled out but one solution was a sensor inside the key to detect movement
After no movement was detected it would not broadcast anymore
That was the customer doesn't need to press a button and can keep the key in pocket/purse
And it is still secure when hanging at home
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Just LOL at any modern car not using rolling codes. All of the alarms I installed in the early 90s had rolling codes. Anyways yeah remote start shuts off the second you touch the brakes if the physical key is not in the car. However you would be lucky if someone used this to unlock your car in some areas. In some neighborhoods in San Francisco and Oakland people are leaving their doors unlocked because they got sick of their windows getting smashed. I watched a news report, one lady paid to get her window replaced and they smashed it again the next night lol. So her and all her neighbors just taking anything valuable out at night and leave their cars unlocked. People just looking for electronics, purses, change in ashtray etc.
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Originally Posted By desslok⏩
Just LOL at any modern car not using rolling codes. All of the alarms I installed in the early 90s had rolling codes. Anyways yeah remote start shuts off the second you touch the brakes if the physical key is not in the car. However you would be lucky if someone used this to unlock your car in some areas. In some neighborhoods in San Francisco and Oakland people are leaving their doors unlocked because they got sick of their windows getting smashed. I watched a news report, one lady paid to get her window replaced and they smashed it again the next night lol. So her and all her neighbors just taking anything valuable out at night and leave their cars unlocked. People just looking for electronics, purses, change in ashtray etc.
They use a hack firmware where the rolling codes don’t matter and it’ll still work srs
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Originally Posted By KochZucker⏩
seems legit

It is, there are videos on social media of people going to airport terminals and restaurants turning off LED screens and changing TV stations and gaining access to parking garages by opening gates with it.

I kinda want to get one, but the shipping is sketchy and I don't want to be placed on some "watchlist"
Originally Posted By AndrewTateTopG⏩
It can scan anything with a wave signal and capture it. So let’s say I’m behind your car and you use your auto remote start , I can capture the signal and steal your car after I save the wave signal .

It works with other stuff too .

This video is 100% real. Like o said you capture the wave signal and save it and you can use it .
damn If not for the fact that my 10th gen Civic is a manual with a kill-switch I'd actually be nervous about this.

This must be a new firmware update because I don't remember it working for cars.
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Originally Posted By PinochetFan⏩
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