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10-04-2022, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
They do the same thing with everything covid related. In their minds if they can show anything that looks to be inconsistent then the whole thing is a hoax. Fake chinese flu, fake CDC response, fake vaccines to make "Big Pharma" rich. On and on.I didn’t say that about Fauci. I said he has been consistent regarding protests. As has the CDC.
Again, what you’ve done is point out individual examples of scientists and media outlets that seemingly showed bias. Don’t you think it’s telling how you’re unable to find a single example of this double standard from the CDC, which is certainly more representative of the scientific body than individual scientists?
I don’t care about political motivation. It’s a fact that certain communities are more vulnerable to C19. Are you denying this? Or is your point that this fact was used in a political manner, which could very well be true.
You’ve strayed away from the discussion’s original topic. What exactly were covid “skeptics” right about from a scientific perspective? It’s as simple as 1) here’s what most skeptics/anti vaxxers were saying 2) here’s what most scientists/health agencies were saying 3) provide evidence that #1 was actually true. Because the track record shows that your side has been repeatedly incorrect.
Again, what you’ve done is point out individual examples of scientists and media outlets that seemingly showed bias. Don’t you think it’s telling how you’re unable to find a single example of this double standard from the CDC, which is certainly more representative of the scientific body than individual scientists?
I don’t care about political motivation. It’s a fact that certain communities are more vulnerable to C19. Are you denying this? Or is your point that this fact was used in a political manner, which could very well be true.
You’ve strayed away from the discussion’s original topic. What exactly were covid “skeptics” right about from a scientific perspective? It’s as simple as 1) here’s what most skeptics/anti vaxxers were saying 2) here’s what most scientists/health agencies were saying 3) provide evidence that #1 was actually true. Because the track record shows that your side has been repeatedly incorrect.
We are literally arguing with anti-vax cultists.
10-04-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
It affected African Americans and Hispanics more, because they're two of the most obese, unhealthy demographic in the country. That's a simple fact.Specific examples do not represent the broad consensus. That’s what the second half of my post was getting at. You then go on to post specific examples. Admittedly I could have said consensus or broadly recommended, but that was pretty self explanatory and mentioned in my earlier posts as well. You’re smart enough to know that when you have a sample size of millions of physicians and scientists, you can find anything you want.
But it was never a narrative being pushed by the sci community at large or by the public health agencies. Hell Fauci has hundreds of hours of online content. Are there any examples of a double standard from him that you can point to, regarding the BLM vs right wing protests?
I think what you’ll find is that the argument you’re making is a straw man. Leading health agencies in the US never had a double standard based on politics for what events did and did not spread covid.
It’s not a political virus. It’s a virus that was disproportionately affecting certain communities for several reasons. Some of those reasons related to existing health disparities. Some had more to do with economics. Ex: Harder to social distance when you live in homes with more people and take public transportation more frequently.
But it was never a narrative being pushed by the sci community at large or by the public health agencies. Hell Fauci has hundreds of hours of online content. Are there any examples of a double standard from him that you can point to, regarding the BLM vs right wing protests?
I think what you’ll find is that the argument you’re making is a straw man. Leading health agencies in the US never had a double standard based on politics for what events did and did not spread covid.
It’s not a political virus. It’s a virus that was disproportionately affecting certain communities for several reasons. Some of those reasons related to existing health disparities. Some had more to do with economics. Ex: Harder to social distance when you live in homes with more people and take public transportation more frequently.
10-04-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
You can Reeeeeeeeeee as loud as you want, till you piss in your diaper, these people died "with" Covid.What argument? That retards on this forum love to claim everyone who died from covid died with covid instead? People who go to the hospital for something else and test positive for covid while there does not change the fact that over a million people died FROM covid in this country. I swear to God you people are fuking retarded.
I remember you guys trying to use a 26 year old teacher's death to prove a point, you forgot to mention she was over 400lbs.
10-04-2022, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Ikr.. Tell him Tony.What argument? That retards on this forum love to claim everyone who died from covid died with covid instead? People who go to the hospital for something else and test positive for covid while there does not change the fact that over a million people died FROM covid in this country. I swear to God you people are fuking retarded.
Originally Posted By Dr.
"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
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10-04-2022, 02:42 PM
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#155
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Dave you're a fuking idiot beat cop who got covid, survived (probably chit your pants worrying about it) and then decided it was no big deal - FOR EVERYONE. Your a fuking ******* who hates the communtity you "serve". And you probably have the worst fuking memory of anyone who posts on this forum. I can only imagine the reports you'd fill out if your partner didn't do all your work while you fuking misc all day. There's a reason your a FA forty something loser who sucks off the taxpayer tit..You can Reeeeeeeeeee as loud as you want, till you piss in your diaper, these people died "with" Covid.
I remember you guys trying to use a 26 year old teacher's death to prove a point, you forgot to mention she was over 400lbs.
I remember you guys trying to use a 26 year old teacher's death to prove a point, you forgot to mention she was over 400lbs.
10-04-2022, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
How much was Pfizer stock in March of 2020? How much was Pfizer stock in March of 2022?They do the same thing with everything covid related. In their minds if they can show anything that looks to be inconsistent then the whole thing is a hoax. Fake chinese flu, fake CDC response, fake vaccines to make "Big Pharma" rich. On and on.
We are literally arguing with anti-vax cultists.
We are literally arguing with anti-vax cultists.
10-04-2022, 02:43 PM
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10-04-2022, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Majority of people who got it survived you worthless, obese, mentally ill, diabetic bitch. And I don't have the community I serve, I don't care about them, you got me there, but I don't care about them to hate them. Not alone either. Seeing a 24 year old, while you can't get it up for your dried out frigid wife in her 50s, who's body is beyond wrecked after ****ting out 4 kids.Dave you're a fuking idiot beat cop who got covid, survived (probably chit your pants worrying about it) and then decided it was no big deal - FOR EVERYONE. Your a fuking ******* who hates the communtity you "serve". And you probably have the worst fuking memory of anyone who posts on this forum. I can only imagine the reports you'd fill out if your partner didn't do all your work while you fuking misc all day. There's a reason your a FA forty something loser who sucks off the taxpayer tit..
10-04-2022, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
LMFAOOOO!!! Tell him Tony!This post was trash the first time you posted it. You're too stupid to understand the difference between what you keep spamming and what I posted.

Originally Posted By Dr.
No tears now Pat.. only WITH as opposed to OF."And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857

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10-04-2022, 02:51 PM
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Here Dave, go tell the families of these Chicago police officers they died WITH covid. Show them your retarded fuking posts on this forum.
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...7Yk2FdpsQ7jDJ/
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...061vzDrFpjkul/
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...7sBUsrIYJFzAc/
https://www.odmp.org/officer/25011-p...-theopsy-moore
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26042-o...frey-dela-cruz
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...jeu-story.html
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...FlowFB_CHBrand
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26171-p...ian-lee-sember
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https://www.odmp.org/officer/25011-p...-theopsy-moore
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26042-o...frey-dela-cruz
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...jeu-story.html
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...FlowFB_CHBrand
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10-04-2022, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Thanks for playing. Oh and you're also retarded if you can't see the difference between an outdoor BLM protest for one night and 500,000 people coming to Sturgis for 10 days.LMFAOOOO!!! Tell him Tony!
No tears now Pat.. only WITH as opposed to OF.

No tears now Pat.. only WITH as opposed to OF.

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10-04-2022, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So I'm right on all accounts. And I'm calling bullchit on the gf. You've never posted a spoon pic to even prove you're cop, now we're supposed to believe you have a gf?.. bullchitMajority of people who got it survived you worthless, obese, mentally ill, diabetic bitch. And I don't have the community I serve, I don't care about them, you got me there, but I don't care about them to hate them. Not alone either. Seeing a 24 year old, while you can't get it up for your dried out frigid wife in her 50s, who's body is beyond wrecked after ****ting out 4 kids.
10-04-2022, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Not knowing the specific situations here, you can't tell me covid killed all these men. Well, since you're a liar and a loud-mouth you might try, but you could not back the claim up.Here Dave, go tell the families of these Chicago police officers they died WITH covid. Show them your retarded fuking posts on this forum.
Everyone who died while they had covid died WITH covid.
How much having covid did, or in some/many cases did not, contribute to their death is on a person by person basis.
In some cases, like Howard Stern's father, he died with covid after catching it while in hospice and with cancer at the age of 99 - covid here has little to do with it, any non-retard non-NYPat drooling idiot would agree with that. In other cases, they were weak (elderly, sickly) much like NYPat and getting covid caused them to die, as any number of things might have done. Sick and old people die.
What was not happening: Healthy people who were young and not obese, they were not catching covid and then dying because of covid. If they died, they most certainly died with covid and due to something else.
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10-04-2022, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."This post was trash the first time you posted it. You're too stupid to understand the difference between what you keep spamming and what I posted.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
10-04-2022, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Melrose Park, Ottawa, and Cook County sherrifs don't equal CPD. And yes, those officers died with Covid. The majority of CPD, actually got the Rona, and guess what Loony Tunes??? They were back at work 14 days later with the original strain, and then 5 days later this year.Here Dave, go tell the families of these Chicago police officers they died WITH covid. Show them your retarded fuking posts on this forum.
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...7Yk2FdpsQ7jDJ/
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...061vzDrFpjkul/
https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...7sBUsrIYJFzAc/
https://www.odmp.org/officer/25011-p...-theopsy-moore
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26042-o...frey-dela-cruz
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...jeu-story.html
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...FlowFB_CHBrand
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26171-p...ian-lee-sember
https://www.odmp.org/officer/25862-d...ichael-queeney
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https://www.police1.com/coronavirus-...7sBUsrIYJFzAc/
https://www.odmp.org/officer/25011-p...-theopsy-moore
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26042-o...frey-dela-cruz
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...jeu-story.html
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...FlowFB_CHBrand
https://www.odmp.org/officer/26171-p...ian-lee-sember
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You're beyond worthless you know that? Only a matter of time before you have another meltdown.
10-04-2022, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Oh look, another "with covid" denier.Not knowing the specific situations here, you can't tell me covid killed all these men. Well, since you're a liar and a loud-mouth you might try, but you could not back the claim up.
Everyone who died while they had covid died WITH covid.
How much having covid did, or in some/many cases did not, contribute to their death is on a person by person basis.
In some cases, like Howard Stern's father, he died with covid after catching it while in hospice and with cancer at the age of 99 - covid here has little to do with it, any non-retard non-NYPat drooling idiot would agree with that. In other cases, they were weak (elderly, sickly) much like NYPat and getting covid caused them to die, as any number of things might have done. Sick and old people die.
What was not happening: Healthy people who were young and not obese, they were not catching covid and then dying because of covid. If they died, they most certainly died with covid and due to something else.
Everyone who died while they had covid died WITH covid.
How much having covid did, or in some/many cases did not, contribute to their death is on a person by person basis.
In some cases, like Howard Stern's father, he died with covid after catching it while in hospice and with cancer at the age of 99 - covid here has little to do with it, any non-retard non-NYPat drooling idiot would agree with that. In other cases, they were weak (elderly, sickly) much like NYPat and getting covid caused them to die, as any number of things might have done. Sick and old people die.
What was not happening: Healthy people who were young and not obese, they were not catching covid and then dying because of covid. If they died, they most certainly died with covid and due to something else.
You realize that young healthy people died FROM covid right? Not the majority, but that some did die right? Not WITH covid, but FROM covid. I'm not responding again until we get that question answered.
10-04-2022, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Do I need to go dig up more? Go tell these families that their loved one died WITH covid and that covid is nothing. Show them your posts on this forum. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.Melrose Park, Ottawa, and Cook County sherrifs don't equal CPD. And yes, those officers died with Covid. The majority of CPD, actually got the Rona, and guess what Loony Tunes??? They were back at work 14 days later with the original strain, and then 5 days later this year.
You're beyond worthless you know that? Only a matter of time before you have another meltdown.
You're beyond worthless you know that? Only a matter of time before you have another meltdown.
10-04-2022, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
You can call bull**** all you want, I'm having a blast with her. They're so fun, bubbly and full of life at that age.So I'm right on all accounts. And I'm calling bullchit on the gf. You've never posted a spoon pic to even prove you're cop, now we're supposed to believe you have a gf?.. bullchit
Your wife on the other hand? Probably can't wait till you pass. Flap jack titties, and that disgusting wide ass look after popping out 4 kids, gray hair, wrinkled skin, etc.
10-04-2022, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Do you think you're adding to the conversation? Seriously?"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
I've already addressed this the first time it was posted.
10-04-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
So this virus was so deadly to CPD, that 5 officers in the entire department, in over 2 years, died with Covid?Do I need to go dig up more? Go tell these families that their loved one died WITH covid and that covid is nothing. Show them your posts on this forum. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.
10-04-2022, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Well I must have missed that. Please address it again.Do you think you're adding to the conversation? Seriously?
I've already addressed this the first time it was posted.
I've already addressed this the first time it was posted.
"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
10-04-2022, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Jesus you are fuking stupid. I can't imagine having to interact with you doing your job. Holy hell..So this virus was so deadly to CPD, that 5 officers in the entire department, in over 2 years, died with Covid?
The entire point of this "conversation" is that you claimed if you're young and healthy you didn't need to get vaccinated - which is 100% false. There are lots of people who fit that description who would be alive today if they simply didn't believe the crap you spew on this forum and got vaccinated.
Do I need to start listing individual kids who died too?
Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
No. And strong link.Well I must have missed that. Please address it again.
"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
"And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for COVID. And they get counted as a COVID-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So it’s overcounting the number of children who are, quote, 'hospitalized with COVID,' as opposed to because of COVID."
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...s-129807429857
10-04-2022, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
You saying those cops that died with it were fit and healthy? And if you ARE young, fit and healthy, you didn't need to get it. Someone as disgusting, weak, obese and pathetic lime yourself needed to get it.Jesus you are fuking stupid. I can't imagine having to interact with you doing your job. Holy hell..
The entire point of this "conversation" is that you claimed if you're young and healthy you didn't need to get vaccinated - which is 100% false. There are lots of people who fit that description who would be alive today if they simply didn't believe the crap you spew on this forum and got vaccinated.
Do I need to start listing individual kids who died too?
No. And strong link.
The entire point of this "conversation" is that you claimed if you're young and healthy you didn't need to get vaccinated - which is 100% false. There are lots of people who fit that description who would be alive today if they simply didn't believe the crap you spew on this forum and got vaccinated.
Do I need to start listing individual kids who died too?
No. And strong link.
I can show you articles of 12 year olds dying with the flu.
Hell if it was up to you, children would still be masked up.
10-04-2022, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
No I listed those officers so you can personally go tell those families everything you're spewing on this forum. I'm sure they'd love to hear from a Chicago beat cop that their loved one died WITH covid.You saying those cops that died with it were fit and healthy? And if you ARE young, fit and healthy, you didn't need to get it. Someone as disgusting, weak, obese and pathetic lime yourself needed to get it.
I can show you articles of 12 year olds dying with the flu.
Hell if it was up to you, children would still be masked up.
I can show you articles of 12 year olds dying with the flu.
Hell if it was up to you, children would still be masked up.
And did you seriously just whatabout the flu? Why not whatabout cancer? Or anything else that kills kids?
The point is YOU claimed something that wasn't true. If those young healthy people had been vaccinated they most likely wouldn't have died. THAT's the point.
10-04-2022, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
OMFG!!! Pat you're killing me! LMAO!!!Thanks for playing.Oh and you're also retarded if you can't see the difference between an outdoor BLM protest for one night and 500,000 people coming to Sturgis for 10 days.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7753804/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7753804/

The major catalyst of the unrest was the murder of George Floyd on May 25. Though it was not the first controversial killing of a black person in 2020,[102] it sparked a much wider series of global protests and riots which continued into August 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...2%80%93ongoing
An outdoor protest for one night... that lasted three fuking months lol.
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10-04-2022, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
ONLY 3 months?OMFG!!! Pat you're killing me! LMAO!!!
The major catalyst of the unrest was the murder of George Floyd on May 25. Though it was not the first controversial killing of a black person in 2020,[102] it sparked a much wider series of global protests and riots which continued into August 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...2%80%93ongoing
An outdoor protest for one night... that lasted three fuking months lol.

The major catalyst of the unrest was the murder of George Floyd on May 25. Though it was not the first controversial killing of a black person in 2020,[102] it sparked a much wider series of global protests and riots which continued into August 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...2%80%93ongoing
An outdoor protest for one night... that lasted three fuking months lol.
10-04-2022, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Oh no, a bunch of different individual protests that didn't happen on specific night? Surely these protests had 500,000 people night after night after night. Just stop.OMFG!!! Pat you're killing me! LMAO!!!
The major catalyst of the unrest was the murder of George Floyd on May 25. Though it was not the first controversial killing of a black person in 2020,[102] it sparked a much wider series of global protests and riots which continued into August 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...2%80%93ongoing
An outdoor protest for one night... that lasted three fuking months lol.

The major catalyst of the unrest was the murder of George Floyd on May 25. Though it was not the first controversial killing of a black person in 2020,[102] it sparked a much wider series of global protests and riots which continued into August 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...2%80%93ongoing
An outdoor protest for one night... that lasted three fuking months lol.
10-04-2022, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And yet, Rona was nowhere to be seen... All summer long.Oh no, a bunch of different individual protests that didn't happen on specific night?Surely these protests had 500,000 people night after night after night. Just stop.
That how you se it Pat?

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10-04-2022, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Didn't something like 60,000 people attend Floyd's funeral? I remember your outrage.......weren't they selfish for doing something like that during the world's deadliest pandemic in history?Oh no, a bunch of different individual protests that didn't happen on specific night? Surely these protests had 500,000 people night after night after night. Just stop.
10-04-2022, 03:39 PM
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