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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1669181413 10-09-2022, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By SlavaUkrain⏩
Here we go again. Defending your home is considered bad. Just bend over and close your eyes.
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Or in your case, kneel and open your mouth
"Whatever it takes"

Or he could consent to face sex after making a peace deal. Killing all of your countrymen is not heroic.
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post 1669181543 10-09-2022, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
That's about as likely as Japan unveiling Mecha Godzilla and giving it to Zelensky so he can proceed to waltz into Moscow while laser beaming and nuke breathing the countryside. Ignoring the parts where nobody would even allow them to develop nukes, it's not exactly a matter of duct taping some funky glowing rocks or fuel rods onto a missile and calling it a day.
There's more than enough to drop a dirty bomb from a local hospital alone. That's as janky as you described but only limits area contamination.

But yes they cannot achieve an atomic or otherwise blast without buying the fuel from Russia.
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post 1669181583 10-09-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
So the offensive in Kherson has been repelled.

About 3k men and hundreds of armor pieces moved that direction. Logical and fair body count has 1/3 dead or more.
where did you read this?
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
where did you read this?
Memecope makes numbers up ITT.
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
where did you read this?
He made it up.

A good shot of the crimea bridge:



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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
where did you read this?
Shoigu flew over his house.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
There's more than enough to drop a dirty bomb from a local hospital alone. That's as janky as you described but only limits area contamination.

But yes they cannot achieve an atomic or otherwise blast without buying the fuel from Russia.
"Previously, IAEA Director General claimed that some 30 tonnes of plutonium and 40 tonnes of enriched uranium are stored at Zaporozhye nuclear power plant"

im no nuclear engineer but from what i understand if you have enriched uranium and plutonium thats a good ways in to making nukes. at this point idk if it would help but would be nice as a deterrence against any future russian "special military operations" in ukraine.


too bad they got rid of their nukes in the 90s.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
"Previously, IAEA Director General claimed that some 30 tonnes of plutonium and 40 tonnes of enriched uranium are stored at Zaporozhye nuclear power plant"
Finish the thought so both sides can rag on you.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Lmao, gold teeth in a bucket crew calling out others for making chit up.




Who controls the power plant?
because its impossible that ukraine just moved the supply beforehand?


the kremlin has been going on and on for several years now that ukraine is working on nuclear development and that the west is helping it.
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post 1669183233 10-09-2022, 11:04 AM
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American recently back from Azov.

Worth the watch. Especially for some of you fantasizing about this war.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
conspiracy theories now. Pretty sure the Russians would know if something was moved.
Well, it took an investigation from an international agrncy to conclude that it was there so idk why youre so sure that russia has complete surveillance over ukraine.


Its not a a conspiracy though, im not saying its fact that ukraine is working on nukes.

“After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Ukraine held about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, the third largest in the world at the time, as well as significant means of its design and production”

Youre telling me that a country which has a “significant means of its design and production” currently possesses a zero percent likelihood of producing them effectively?


This was literally one of the reasons given by putin for the invasion, was it not?
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
because its impossible that ukraine just moved the supply beforehand?


the kremlin has been going on and on for several years now that ukraine is working on nuclear development and that the west is helping it.
Amazing

Hoping for nuclear war kicking off from an obviously out of control and desperate regime.

BTW your commander-in-chief in Ukraine was spotted wearing a swastika and the filming of Azov dumping Russian sympathizers in a mass grave after execution (both by Ukrainian channels) has dropped today.

I've never bought into the nazi narrative as I thought it is inconsequential in the larger picture. Still do. However your "team" has an image to maintain and that dam can easily break.
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post 1669183793 10-09-2022, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Well, it took an investigation from an international agrncy to conclude that it was there so idk why youre so sure that russia has complete surveillance over ukraine.


Its not a a conspiracy though, im not saying its fact that ukraine is working on nukes.

“After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Ukraine held about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, the third largest in the world at the time, as well as significant means of its design and production”

Youre telling me that a country which has a “significant means of its design and production” currently possesses a zero percent likelihood of producing them effectively?


This was literally one of the reasons given by putin for the invasion, was it not?
No it was not a reason for the invasion.

And no they do not have the capability to produce the weapons. There is no program to feed. The weapons program was retracted back to the Russian countryside.

You don't just have production ability because the weapons were there 40 years ago.
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post 1669184003 10-09-2022, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
He made it up.

A good shot of the crimea bridge:



So what your saying is they had directional movement on the 4th and now on the 9th the forces hit a wall?

I've told you to be careful with ISW. Each and everyone of those forces rushed in the wide open to a retreated and consolidated line. It did not end well for the exposed columns.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Amazing

Hoping for nuclear war kicking off from an obviously out of control and desperate regime.

BTW your commander-in-chief in Ukraine was spotted wearing a swastika and the filming of Azov dumping Russian sympathizers in a mass grave after execution (both by Ukrainian channels) has dropped today.

I've never bought into the nazi narrative as I thought it is inconsequential in the larger picture. Still do. However your "team" has an image to maintain and that dam can easily break.
so zelensky is a nazi? interesting...

and im not a part of any "team", i support and have supported autonomy for the donbas region and crimea IF that is what the people living in those regions want. maybe bias point of view from me but i think that its right. I have never supported the invasion of ukraine though.
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
So first you mention its possible that the material was removed, andthen later acknowledge it wasnt. What was the point in saying that in the first place? lmao
where did i acknowledge that?
post 1669184103 10-09-2022, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
this confirmed?

I'll wait for confirmation
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post 1669184183 10-09-2022, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
so zelensky is a nazi? interesting...

and im not a part of any "team", i support and have supported autonomy for the donbas region and crimea IF that is what the people living in those regions want. maybe bias point of view from me but i think that its right. I have never supported the invasion of ukraine though.



where did i acknowledge that?
Shame you don't know who the commander in chief of Ukrainian forces is.

More ineptitude
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post 1669184273 10-09-2022, 11:24 AM
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Good news chasers have no idea what their "good news" is.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Shame you don't know who the commander in chief of Ukrainian forces is.

More ineptitude
im sure you didnt either before you saw a twitter post lol.


give it a break, no one is buying the nazi meme aside from the elite online specialists (you).
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Well, it took an investigation from an international agrncy to conclude that it was there so idk why youre so sure that russia has complete surveillance over ukraine.

Its not a a conspiracy though, im not saying its fact that ukraine is working on nukes.

“After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Ukraine held about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, the third largest in the world at the time, as well as significant means of its design and production”

Youre telling me that a country which has a “significant means of its design and production” currently possesses a zero percent likelihood of producing them effectively?

This was literally one of the reasons given by putin for the invasion, was it not?
The likelihood is not zero, it's negative infinite.

One of the very first things that they had to agree to in exchange to even acknowledge them as an independent country - and then receive funds - was the complete denuclearization after the collapse of the USSR.

It is mathematically impossible that:

- US/EU/NATO do not keep tabs on every morsel of radioactive crap and tech that could be used to make nukes and the Ukies somehow were willing to and also managed to start a secret nuclear arms program
- said orgs would even consider agreeing to some spook deal where the Ukies are allowed to have a nuclear arms program

Ukies also do not have any production facilities to create weapons grade plutonium/tritium.

The West would be up in their asses before Moscow could cry foul.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
The likelihood is not zero, it's negative infinite.

One of the very first things that they had to agree to in exchange to even acknowledge them as an independent country - and then receive funds - was the complete denuclearization after the collapse of the USSR.

It is mathematically impossible that:

- US/EU/NATO do not keep tabs on every morsel of radioactive crap and tech that could be used to make nukes and the Ukies somehow were willing to and also managed to start a secret nuclear arms program
- said orgs would even consider agreeing to some spook deal where the Ukies are allowed to have a nuclear arms program

Ukies also do not have any production facilities to create weapons grade plutonium/tritium.

The West would be up in their asses before Moscow could cry foul.
ya you might be right. i dont know anything about nukes but the fact that an independent survey or investigation or whatever the fuk it was concluded a pretty precise estimate of quantity for enriched uranium and plutonium inside ukraine must mean something. also the fact that ukraines ex-pm has stated that ukraine has the technology and could have nukes in 2-3 years...

that being said i do kno nothing about nuclear r&d, this is just me talking ****.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
im sure you didnt either before you saw a twitter post lol.


give it a break, no one is buying the nazi meme aside from the elite online specialists (you).
At least you admit you have no clue what is happening.

I've already posted my sentiment on Khomchak. I have no need for it to be real or fake.

Now do the denial of the Azov footage of the killing and dumping of civilians in Kharkov.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩




Quick, resort to semantics! Derp derp!
right so if an investigation from 2018 concludes it is there that means in 4 years it could not have been moved.... youre hurting your brain bro.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
At least you admit you have no clue what is happening.

I've already posted my sentiment on Khomchak. I have no need for it to be real or fake.

Now do the denial of the Azov footage of the killing and dumping of civilians in Kharkov.
clearly you do which is why youve been wrong about literally everything in the past 7 months. cool story bro.
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