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Thread: Official Russia vs Ukraine Thread V- The winter is coming: A tale of stupid sanctions

post 1669298603 10-11-2022, 11:13 AM
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More things on fire in Belgorod. This time agriculture tanks.




lots on Belgorod right now -

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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Ukrainecels - stupid vatnik missile attack failed

Also

Please send more missile defense systems

Smh
lmao you can't make this chit up, the absolute brainwashing of these turds.
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post 1669299383 10-11-2022, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Well thats a promising step, hopefully anyway. Hes trolling if he thinks ukraine is going to give up 4 of its regions though, or if he thinks the west is going to force ukraines hand to do so…

Make deal for control of whatever agreed upon percentage of territory in donbas, recognition for crimea, and assurance of water supply, plus no nato clause. That would be fair.

I dont see russia going for that though. They have painted themselves into a corner on negotiating by recognizing all of these regions as russia, if they “give up” any of them in a deal this is optically giving up russian territory from the perspective of the dikheads in the kremlin.

Im doubtful that russia will be able to back off in a way that risks them being viewed as losers of territory.
Amazing

And yes there is little chance all of the territories go back to your "fair" assessment. These were simple things that were asked for prior to the war. Instead, it's been constant cheering for their deaths and the permanent loss of their land.

You can only negotiate from a position of leverage and if you are leveraged, accept what you are given.

Your circular thinking is a sight to see. Even the concern about optics is foolish. Russia has expended blood and treasure in the war. It is beyond optics once committed at that level. More than likely, they will take the river to the east as I have said if the war continues.
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post 1669299683 10-11-2022, 11:33 AM
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NATO will hold nuclear deterrence exercises next week



Russian mobik had 11 days between being called up and getting into capture,
with just two days for some extremely basic training.
vid -




It turned out the video PMC Wagner uploaded as 'proof' for their capture of Bakhmut
was a video from a girl on TikTok. They worsened the quality intendedly.
A true TikTok brigade it is, just like the 1st TikTok Brigade from Chechnya.
vid -




Lots of pics and video of Wagner/Russians getting killed near Bakhmut.
for example
3 vids, scroll down for 2 and 3


and





A Russian cluster of military equipment was destroyed by GMLRS missiles of the AFU
post 1669299933 10-11-2022, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Amazing

And yes there is little chance all of the territories go back to your "fair" assessment. These were simple things that were asked for prior to the war. Instead, it's been constant cheering for their deaths and the permanent loss of their land.

You can only negotiate from a position of leverage and if you are leveraged, accept what you are given.

Your circular thinking is a sight to see. Even the concern about optics is foolish. Russia has expended blood and treasure in the war. It is beyond optics once committed at that level. More than likely, they will take the river to the east as I have said if the war continues.
Cringe.
post 1669300053 10-11-2022, 11:38 AM
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Holy fck that's brutal so many dead russians.

What a disaster for Putin and will only get worse, no wonder he's begging for talks



What you think vatniks? 100k dead ruskis by the end of the year?
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
NATO will hold nuclear deterrence exercises next week



Russian mobik had 11 days between being called up and getting into capture,
with just two days for some extremely basic training.
vid -




It turned out the video PMC Wagner uploaded as 'proof' for their capture of Bakhmut
was a video from a girl on TikTok. They worsened the quality intendedly.
A true TikTok brigade it is, just like the 1st TikTok Brigade from Chechnya.
vid -




Lots of pics and video of Wagner/Russians getting killed near Bakhmut.
for example
3 vids, scroll down for 2 and 3


and





A Russian cluster of military equipment was destroyed by GMLRS missiles of the AFU
Posts war porn but leaves out his proposed outcome for the fight for Bakhmut.....

True war reporter.
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post 1669300263 10-11-2022, 11:41 AM
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post 1669300383 10-11-2022, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By memcopsHerpes⏩
Cringe.
Welcome to the forum.

Better get with it. Your teammates are thinking of negotiating as the Russians tried in order to avoid armed conflict at scale.
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post 1669300423 10-11-2022, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Ok, now do Ukraine. Let's show both sides of this conflict.
Theyve only lost like 10 people
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post 1669301013 10-11-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Posts war porn but leaves out his proposed outcome for the fight for Bakhmut.....

True war reporter.
They've been at Bakhmut for 2+ months now and it lost all strategic relevance the moment the Russkies lost Kupiansk, Izyum and Liman. It was supposed to be a next step for a two-pronged attack supported from Lyman towards Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, which are even more heavier defended.
post 1669301263 10-11-2022, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
They've been at Bakhmut for 2+ months now and it lost all strategic relevance the moment the Russkies lost Kupiansk, Izyum and Liman. It was supposed to be a next step for a two-pronged attack supported from Lyman towards Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, which are even more heavier defended.
Why even make anything up like that?

Bakhmut is the stage for Ukrainian operations in the Donbas and is the most fortified element that Ukraine has. When it is lost, that's a wrap for any operations in the east, ever.

To be clear you are claiming Sloviansk and Kramatorsk are more heavily defended?

Feel free to tell me that it wont be taken either lol

Youre losing a war that should have never been fought.
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post 1669301473 10-11-2022, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
Well thats a promising step, hopefully anyway. Hes trolling if he thinks ukraine is going to give up 4 of its regions though, or if he thinks the west is going to force ukraines hand to do so…

Make deal for control of whatever agreed upon percentage of territory in donbas, recognition for crimea, and assurance of water supply, plus no nato clause. That would be fair.

I dont see russia going for that though. They have painted themselves into a corner on negotiating by recognizing all of these regions as russia, if they “give up” any of them in a deal this is optically giving up russian territory from the perspective of the dikheads in the kremlin.

Im doubtful that russia will be able to back off in a way that risks them being viewed as losers of territory.
**** them, their water and NATO clause.

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post 1669301663 10-11-2022, 12:00 PM
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Hungarian PM Viktor Orban interview with German press: ‘Anyone who seriously believes that the war can be ended through Russian-Ukrainian negotiations lives in another world. Reality looks different. ‘In reality such issues can only be discussed between Washington and Moscow. today Ukraine is able to fight only because it receives military assistance from the United States. On this basis, one can draw a simple conclusion:‘The Americans must reach an agreement with the Russians. Only then will the war be over. At the same time, I do not see President Biden as the person who would really be suitable for such serious negotiations. ‘President Biden has gone too far. Suffice it to recall his statements to Russian President Putin. In the current situation, hope for peace can be associated, for example, with the name of Donald Trump. Angela Merkel is also capable of influencing the situation. ‘It was because of Merkel's position that a large-scale conflict was prevented in 2014. It was the pinnacle, the art of diplomacy.’

Slack-jawed Democrats itt.
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post 1669301733 10-11-2022, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
**** them, their water and NATO clause.

Such tough talk over others lives.

I'd be mad too if I were on a team and the game isnt going my way.
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post 1669301893 10-11-2022, 12:04 PM
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post 1669301913 10-11-2022, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Such tough talk over others lives.

I'd be mad too if I were on a team and the game isnt going my way.


Memecope showing his deluded fantasies again:

https://deepstatemap.live/en

Now tell me who conquered more land these last couple of months?
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Let's see what an actual general has to say my low IQ vatnik friends



...oh no no no no no no vatnik sisters
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Why even make anything up like that?

Bakhmut is the stage for Ukrainian operations in the Donbas and is the most fortified element that Ukraine has. When it is lost, that's a wrap for any operations in the east, ever.

To be clear you are claiming Sloviansk and Kramatorsk are more heavily defended?

Feel free to tell me that it wont be taken either lol

Youre losing a war that should have never been fought.
The main axis of defence is centred on Kramatorsk/Sloviansk. Even in the unlikely case they managed to take it, they can no longer threaten the rest from the North. And yes, Kramatorsk is more heavily fortified.

The goal of taking Bakhmut is so the Russkies can finally have a PR victory, but again, they've been at it for 2+ months now and they can no longer be resupplied from the North.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
hungarian pm viktor orban interview with german press: ‘anyone who seriously believes that the war can be ended through russian-ukrainian negotiations lives in another world. Reality looks different. ‘in reality such issues can only be discussed between washington and moscow. Today ukraine is able to fight only because it receives military assistance from the united states. On this basis, one can draw a simple conclusion:‘the americans must reach an agreement with the russians. Only then will the war be over. At the same time, i do not see president biden as the person who would really be suitable for such serious negotiations. ‘president biden has gone too far. Suffice it to recall his statements to russian president putin. In the current situation, hope for peace can be associated, for example, with the name of donald trump. Angela merkel is also capable of influencing the situation. ‘it was because of merkel's position that a large-scale conflict was prevented in 2014. It was the pinnacle, the art of diplomacy.’

slack-jawed democrats itt.
absolutely. Brutal.
post 1669302273 10-11-2022, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
let's see what an actual general has to say my low iq vatnik friends



...oh no no no no no no vatnik sisters
oh no an actual general guys!!!!!! Might wanna do some research on dat dere organization kiddo.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Amazing

And yes there is little chance all of the territories go back to your "fair" assessment. These were simple things that were asked for prior to the war.Instead, it's been constant cheering for their deaths and the permanent loss of their land.

You can only negotiate from a position of leverage and if you are leveraged, accept what you are given.

Your circular thinking is a sight to see. Even the concern about optics is foolish. Russia has expended blood and treasure in the war. It is beyond optics once committed at that level. More than likely, they will take the river to the east as I have said if the war continues.
yes, you and the rest of the misc have been constantly cheering for ukrainians death and permanent loss of their land. very troubling and insane behaviour tbh.


and yes m8 they were doing a lot of negotiating before the war started... which is why they amassed by ukraines border calling it a training mission, recognized donbas as an independent country, then promptly invaded the entire country heading directly for the capital. i know you like to spout off crazy shiet m8, but come on... lmao.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Such tough talk over others lives.

I'd be mad too if I were on a team and the game isnt going my way.




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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
The main axis of defence is centred on Kramatorsk/Sloviansk. Even in the unlikely case they managed to take it, they can no longer threaten the rest from the North. And yes, Kramatorsk is more heavily fortified.

The goal of taking Bakhmut is so the Russkies can finally have a PR victory, but again, they've been at it for 2+ months now and they can no longer be resupplied from the North.
They think being digged in for months is a win for Russia. Memecope is absolutely retarded and is denying reality, it's quite sad.

You can't talk rationally with these brainwashed Putin shills
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
oh no an actual general guys!!!!!! Might wanna do some research on dat dere organization kiddo.
Oh excuse me for not using a ruski ******** channel as information like you low IQ vatnik mongoloids.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Hungarian PM Viktor Orban interview with German press: ‘Anyone who seriously believes that the war can be ended through Russian-Ukrainian negotiations lives in another world. Reality looks different. ‘In reality such issues can only be discussed between Washington and Moscow. today Ukraine is able to fight only because it receives military assistance from the United States. On this basis, one can draw a simple conclusion:‘The Americans must reach an agreement with the Russians. Only then will the war be over. At the same time, I do not see President Biden as the person who would really be suitable for such serious negotiations. ‘President Biden has gone too far. Suffice it to recall his statements to Russian President Putin. In the current situation, hope for peace can be associated, for example, with the name of Donald Trump. Angela Merkel is also capable of influencing the situation. ‘It was because of Merkel's position that a large-scale conflict was prevented in 2014. It was the pinnacle, the art of diplomacy.’

Slack-jawed Democrats itt.
What a W, our retard in charge managed to isolate himself so hard in the EU, his best buddy is the overseas fatso who isn't even in charge of anything.
post 1669302693 10-11-2022, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩


That's a "tactical retreat" bro, Memecope defines that as winning the war bro...

post 1669302813 10-11-2022, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩


Memecope showing his deluded fantasies again:

https://deepstatemap.live/en

Now tell me who conquered more land these last couple of months?
So you have a big picture of an entire war and you say "Now tell me who conquered more land these last couple of months?"

Wtf
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post 1669302983 10-11-2022, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩




Awesome!!

Just as I told you what would be taken in the first place, we can check back later. Go team!! I hope they can keep going and take it all back. I'm sure that is currently underway.
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