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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩

why are you dismissing covid as a cause? Covid has long term effects we dont understand yet, its ridiculous to ignore that factor and just blame vaccines

Because these excess deaths do NOT correlate with the virus, they correlate with the shots.

Did you not follow this-



Look to the left of that blue vertical line- that shows an increase in all cause mortality which began in Australia *after* they started their vaccine campaign and *before* they had a big outbreak of covid cases.

Then look to the right of that blue vertical line-covid wave ended, but excess deaths continued far above baseline.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩

Do you not see dangerous results the same way that Yellen doesn't see a recession?



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Why do you believe that there is a very noticeable level of excess deaths? Seen in the US, the EU, and Australia?


Please don't say "duh, covid" because these are non-covid deaths and non violent deaths [no drug overdoses, no murders, no suicides, are included in this excess death number].



Link:

It isn't being publicized by major media. That doesn't mean it isn't happening.







If you didn't get one of the shots then it is harder for me to understand why you are so resistant to official reports of excess deaths by governments.

It doesn’t work that way. I’ve tried explaining this to you several times. You can’t simply attribute excess deaths to vaccination, nor can you infer anything about risk based on raw or descriptive data. Nothing in medicine or science works that way.

These are the types of studies that are useful for generating meaningful conclusions. 11 million subjects. Inferential statistics. And also adjusting for age, sex, ethnicity, and other demographic characteristics that could differ between groups. Vaccinated subjects had a lower risk of non-covid death.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...mm7043e2-H.pdf

If the vaccine was killing people and causing excess deaths, the effect would be the easiest thing in the history of medicine to demonstrate. Instead, we see that the safety profile continues to be excellent.

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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩

Covid has LONG TERM effects we dont understand. Covid wave may have ended but that doesnt mean all the damage it did to people disappeared.

you misCels are seeing what you want to see. For as many people worldwide got vaxxed, your story doesnt fit. Wouldnt it be easy to see if the extra deaths are only for vaccinated people? Where is that evidence?

Again it is correlation because that is what is available to work with.

If the shots are killing people do you believe that our governments would come out and admit that to everyone publicly?

higher vaccination rate = higher rate of excess all cause mortality *in working age and younger people* NOT including deaths from COVID or deaths from violence [drug overdoses, murders, suicides]




more shots = more extra dead people


You are welcome to go and read more about it.

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384,000 extra dead people


Did you somehow miss Ed Dowd [stock/finance guy] getting very interested when group life insurance companies reported that they were seeing a crazy high number of deaths?

A recent video with Dowd:

https://rumble.com/v1mny36-ed-dowd-c...phes-and-.html

I haven't watched it myself, mainly because I believe I know generally what he will say/did say.

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There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!

Originally Posted By roosky11⏩

WRONG, Faucci explicitly said on Colbert last week that only about 64% or so were vaccinated and boosted.

We are not allowed to like, believe, or trust Faucci on anything according to the misc, so thanks for trying.

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Originally Posted By CampingBruh⏩

Tfw its gonna be hard to find an unvaxxed wife.

On top of the amount of women that are already unwifeable...

nah, you should be choosing a wife based on her IQ anyway (or if yours is 3-digits, no wife at all hehe)

all other behavioral aspects of her will be downstream from that

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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩

It doesn’t work that way. I’ve tried explaining this to you several times. You can’t simply attribute excess deaths to vaccination, nor can you infer anything about risk based on raw or descriptive data. Nothing in medicine or science works that way.

These are the types of studies that are useful for generating meaningful conclusions. 11 million subjects. Inferential statistics. And also adjusting for age, sex, ethnicity, and other demographic characteristics that could differ between groups. Vaccinated subjects had a lower risk of non-covid death.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...mm7043e2-H.pdf

If the vaccine was killing people and causing excess deaths, the effect would be the easiest thing in the history of medicine to demonstrate. Instead, we see that the safety profile continues to be excellent.

With respect I recognize that what I've added here is correlation, but it is a damn convincing level of correlation given that there isn't a strong alternative hypothesis.



*yes this is covid cases correlated to vaccination, not death, also a thing as mentioned earlier in the thread- the shots increase your likelihood of getting covid


How would you explain Australia where the excess deaths increased *prior* to the outbreak of covid? And then continued to increase after the number of covid cases had plummeted?

If you want to try "well they still could have been dying of covid *effects*" then at the very best it seems the shots did not protect anyone worth a damn.

A huge live experiment was run on the general population using a technology that didn't have a good history of safety. Now there is a huge spike in cancer [9 sigma increase], and countries seeing a decline in their birth rates. Also reports of more lost pregnancies.






Link:

Link:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...void-scrutiny/

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩

With respect I recognize that what I've added here is correlation, but it is a damn convincing level of correlation given that there isn't a strong alternative hypothesis.



*yes this is covid cases correlated to vaccination, not death, also a thing as mentioned earlier in the thread- the shots increase your likelihood of getting covid


How would you explain Australia where the excess deaths increased *prior* to the outbreak of covid? And then continued to increase after the number of covid cases had plummeted?

If you want to try "well they still could have been dying of covid *effects*" then at the very best it seems the shots did not protect anyone worth a damn.

A huge live experiment was run on the general population using a technology that didn't have a good history of safety. Now there is a huge spike in cancer [9 sigma increase], and countries seeing a decline in their birth rates. Also reports of more lost pregnancies.






Link:

Link:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...void-scrutiny/

You’re switching claims. The post I first quoted, which has been a long-standing talking point of yours, argued that the vaccines contribute to excess mortality unrelated to covid. I just cited an 11 million person study showing that isn’t true. There are other ways of demonstrating it as well. All-cause mortality has never been significantly associated with vaccination.

Now it seems you’re entertaining the idea that vaccines make people more susceptible to catching and dying from covid. But again, we have thousands of studies from populations all over the world showing that vaccination dramatically reduces the risk of dying from covid on an individual basis. To say that it’s been well-established would be the understatement of the decade. If you haven’t seen hundreds of these studies by now, you are seriously living in an information bubble that is shielding you from data that runs in opposition to your narrative.

You simultaneously set a ridiculously low standard of evidence for your own claims, while ignoring or dismissing considerably higher quality evidence (and much more evidence) that you don’t like. Graphs layered on another that I can’t even read. Can’t see the y axis scale. I still don’t know exactly what hypothesis you’re evaluating, and why you seem to think using randomly selected examples of layered graphs is a better method for analysis than using statistical methods that calculate the risk on an individual basis. You don’t have to be a scientist to realize what you’re doing is extremely low quality work to fit a confirmation bias.

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