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post 1670882953 11-08-2022, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
because I can confirm all the chit some of you guys spew doesnt make any difference to results.

You need to make the looks threshold before any other chit matters. Misc is incapable of understanding this
Here's the thing, every reasonable person on here recognizes that looks matter and that there is a looks threshold you have to meet to get your foot in the door.

However, your issue seems to be that it's not always mentioned or highlighted as the most relevant factor when the topic is discussed, so therefore it's being denied that it matters. False. It's usually the default assumption that looks have importance, and then other factors are mentioned because people have more control over those variables (although looks can be controlled to a certain extent as well).

Obviously, your experience has been that you rarely pass the looks threshold with the majority of women you meet/see, and so it becomes THE defining reality for you, and you want everyone to recognize and emphasize this reality constantly.

But you're on the wrong forum for that. If you were in an environment where everyone was on the far left tail of the distribution for looks, then I'm sure you'd get constant validation for your experience. Wrong environment.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
People here eventually woke up in their 30s, realized they'd accomplished nothing significant career-wise, relationship-wise, etc and are actively looking for reasons to externalize the blame as cope. It's not me, it's 'libtards' and feminists and women are all whores and the jews and astronauts and boomers etc etc etc. They're miserable, jaded, resentful, bitter, and hate-filled and it comes out here all the time where they can post in an echo chamber made up of equally miserable people.

It's much easier to externalize blame rather than take a good hard look inwards and accept that maybe, just maybe, you're the problem.
Well this is where you have it wrong. There are many problems in current society. If you don't see them then you live under a rock tbh. Not much else to even say about it.

Our culture has been quickly declining since social media and smart phones. This is not even a question.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Here's the thing, every reasonable person on here recognizes that looks matter and that there is a looks threshold you have to meet to get your foot in the door.

However, your issue seems to be that it's not always mentioned or highlighted as the most relevant factor when the topic is discussed, so therefore it's being denied that it matters. False. It's usually the default assumption that looks have importance, and then other factors are mentioned because people have more control over those variables (although looks can be controlled to a certain extent as well).

Obviously, your experience has been that you rarely pass the looks threshold with the majority of women you meet/see, and so it becomes THE defining reality for you, and you want everyone to recognize and emphasize this reality constantly.

But you're on the wrong forum for that. If you were in an environment where everyone was on the far left tail of the distribution for looks, then I'm sure you'd get constant validation for your experience. Wrong environment.
Its THE defining reality for everyone though. If you meet the looks threshold it's just a numbers game from there.

I feel like misc constantly over complicates this. If you don't meet looks, you're basically screwed no matter what. If you do meet looks, just a numbers game from there and don't be weird
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
People here eventually woke up in their 30s, realized they'd accomplished nothing significant career-wise, relationship-wise, etc and are actively looking for reasons to externalize the blame as cope. It's not me, it's 'libtards' and feminists and women are all whores and the jews and astronauts and boomers etc etc etc. They're miserable, jaded, resentful, bitter, and hate-filled and it comes out here all the time where they can post in an echo chamber made up of equally miserable people.

It's much easier to externalize blame rather than take a good hard look inwards and accept that maybe, just maybe, you're the problem.
As of 2022, barring exceptions like bigballsmcgee (sorry brah, it sucks but you’ve beenmostlypriced out of the dating market), this is what it boils down to, really

I won’t say the game hasn’t changed, that’s just false, but, while the window is closing, the average guy can still get a woman if he puts in some effort. In 10 years ? Who knows

And no.. putting in the bare minimum career wise, going to work, going to the gym (if at that) and finally coming home to rot in front of a blue screen is not putting in an effort
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Its THE defining reality for everyone though. If you meet the looks threshold it's just a numbers game from there.

I feel like misc constantly over complicates this. If you don't meet looks, you're basically screwed no matter what. If you do meet looks, just a numbers game from there and don't be weird
Looks do matter, but the threshold is still low for the majority of women, so a relationship is not out of reach for the average guy yet

Unfortunately at 5’3 and ethnic you don’t meet the minimum for most. Doesn’t excuse the hopeless outlook, but I do empathize with you
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Originally Posted By DrAlchemist
Looks do matter, but the threshold is still low for the majority of women, so a relationship is not out of reach for the average guy yet

Unfortunately at 5’3 and ethnic you don’t meet the minimum for most. Doesn’t excuse the hopeless outlook, but I do empathize with you
it depends what women you're talking about. If we're including fat chicks and other undesirables, the looks threshold isnt that high but misc usually is talking about at least moderately attractive women. Standards have never been higher for those women.
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It's really like a group of 10 incels who make a new alt every single day.




As one of the older guys here who experienced the hook up game b4 and after 2012 or 2016 or whatever magic date yall choose now...

Sure it's changed some, and social media/online dating has widened the wealth gap when it comes to pussy. However most of these losers that blame every and anything but themselves, weren't getting laid in any Era.


Almost everything you guys post is so far off base and a dead give away you were raised by a beta. You guys don't every know who to look up to. Idiolizing clowns like Andrew tate.
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Originally Posted By FA*******
Oldie but a goodie.



The real pill is that there is no value that most men can provide to women in today's society.

Women don't need a protector.

They earn as much as their "providers".

Theywanta child and a father for it, but 2 incomes isn't enough to raise a kid today, so they throw that aspiration out the window and get a toy dog.

The only value men can provide today is sex, to a gender that doesn't want sex very bad. So women will call Chad when they need a hookup, and spend the rest of their time going to work or watching a screen. There's no value that dating a beta provides to them.

Notice how the standard misc advice for "I'm 30 and a virgin, wat do?" is looksmaxxing, rather than say increasing income? People understand the fukking game. They are just less than honest about most guys' chances of winning it.

ETA: Ninja'd by BBMG.

Also, the Rudyrude chit circa 2012 or so was the canary in the coal mine. That's about the time young men started realizing that the traditional masculinity dog wouldn't hunt any more.
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Originally Posted By yakuza233
it true
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
it depends what women you're talking about. If we're including fat chicks and other undesirables, the looks threshold isnt that high but misc usually is talking about at least moderately attractive women. Standards have never been higher for those women.
Somewhat this tbh.

I can smash fat/ugly girls very easily with little to no effort, most guys can it's not that hard.

Getting a decent looking girl is much harder because you're competing with tons of other blokes who are better looking, more charismatic, taller etc.

That's why if I wanna shag a hot girl I'm better off whoremaxxing, much less hassle and straight to the point if you ain't chad.
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Was very active on the MISC circa 2010-2013. Was definitely relatively incel back then as well, except it was called “forever alone”. I fell down this rabbit hole big time.. I was a virgin, I had a tough home life, and thought the solution to my problems was to become an alpha male. It was basically the same philosophy a lot of people are going down now, except we had ZYZZ instead of Andrew Tate.

For what it’s worth, I’m turning 30 soon, and I’d like to talk through my experience with this stuff with the benefit of hindsight knowledge.

So, I was really afraid of connection and started to view women negatively because of my own standing. To compensate, I started to act “alpha”.. not being nice to girls unnecessarily, acting like all girls will always cheat on you so what’s the point of even trying, believing that nice guys finish last, etc…

And I spent my late teens and early 20s even more lonely and worse off than I was before. It finally dawned on me around 21 that I was just coming across as a total *******. I finally came out of this nonsense and started acting like a normal dude.. and I finally started finding some connection, relationships, etc.

Fast forward to today and I’ve dated some awesome women, I’m in a LTR with someone beautiful and supportive, and I’m so grateful for what I have.

Getting women isn’t as complicated as you think. You don’t have to be rich, you don’t have to be tall, you don’t have to be jacked.. just be a normal dude! Show up, show that you care, treat them like normal people, show that you can take care of your own physical, emotional, and basic financial needs, and don’t take yourself so seriously.

Im not sure if this will change anybodys mind, I just wanted to offer some wisdom from an older head who’s seen this all play out before, and who’s seen that it doesn’t end very well.
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Originally Posted By coolerdude44
Was very active on the MISC circa 2010-2013. Was definitely relatively incel back then as well, except it was called “forever alone”. I fell down this rabbit hole big time.. I was a virgin, I had a tough home life, and thought the solution to my problems was to become an alpha male. It was basically the same philosophy a lot of people are going down now, except we had ZYZZ instead of Andrew Tate.

For what it’s worth, I’m turning 30 soon, and I’d like to talk through my experience with this stuff with the benefit of hindsight knowledge.

So, I was really afraid of connection and started to view women negatively because of my own standing. To compensate, I started to act “alpha”.. not being nice to girls unnecessarily, acting like all girls will always cheat on you so what’s the point of even trying, believing that nice guys finish last, etc…

And I spent my late teens and early 20s even more lonely and worse off than I was before. It finally dawned on me around 21 that I was just coming across as a total *******. I finally came out of this nonsense and started acting like a normal dude.. and I finally started finding some connection, relationships, etc.

Fast forward to today and I’ve dated some awesome women, I’m in a LTR with someone beautiful and supportive, and I’m so grateful for what I have.

Getting women isn’t as complicated as you think. You don’t have to be rich, you don’t have to be tall, you don’t have to be jacked.. just be a normal dude! Show up, show that you care, treat them like normal people, show that you can take care of your own physical, emotional, and basic financial needs, and don’t take yourself so seriously.

Im not sure if this will change anybodys mind, I just wanted to offer some wisdom from an older head who’s seen this all play out before, and who’s seen that it doesn’t end very well.
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Originally Posted By yakuza233
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Absolutely not. And guess not THAT much has changed! Haha
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
it depends what women you're talking about. If we're including fat chicks and other undesirables, the looks threshold isnt that high but misc usually is talking about at least moderately attractive women. Standards have never been higher for those women.
Nope. For average to moderately attractive women, guys who aren't using tinder, and who are average to slightly above average, can meet the looks threshold for many of these women. They won't meet the threshold to the point where women are throwing themselves at them, but so what. I see this, I've experienced this, and that chart which shows that 30% of men have gone without sex for a year or whatever doesn't isolate the relevant variables.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Nope. For average to moderately attractive women, guys who aren't using tinder, and who are average to slightly above average, can meet the looks threshold for many of these women. They won't meet the threshold to the point where women are throwing themselves at them, but so what. I see this, I've experienced this, and that chart which shows that 30% of menchave gone without sex for a year or whatever doesn't isolate the relevant variables.
what if ugly?
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Originally Posted By yakuza233
what if ugly?
Stop be ugly. Stop be autist too.

In fact, Stop trolling while you're at it. It's just annoying at this point
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Stop be ugly. Stop be autist too.

In fact, Stop trolling while you're at it. It's just annoying at this point
I really don't understand the lack of introspection by these dweeb?

Like how can you not possibly consider the same deficiencies that have you posting almost 2k times in a few months, pretending to be some other autist, might be contributing to your inceldom?

It's not funny, or clever, and like you said, just cringe and annoying at this point.


Same can be said for the endless nazi alts. They really think iits some.jewish conspiracy to hold them down... Couldn't possibly be their anti social mental illness?

How do you even end up on a bodybuilding forum posting nazi and incel chit when you don't even lift?? I really need an answer to this
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
it depends what women you're talking about. If we're including fat chicks and other undesirables, the looks threshold isnt that high but misc usually is talking about at least moderately attractive women. Standards have never been higher for those women.
I don’t look at fatties as sexual beings so they don’t even register in my observations, I’m talking about looks matched average, non fat, people, within a couple of points
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Originally Posted By coolerdude44
You don’t have to be rich, you don’t have to be tall, you don’t have to be jacked.. just be a normal dude! Show up, show that you care, treat them like normal people
Until 8 or so years ago that was the ticket for everyone

It no longer applies now that women have access to hundreds of handsome men right on her cellphone; you need to stand out hugely



Like I said I haven't even dated this entire time & am still able to see this change happening; people are simply not staying together in relationships anymore if one is ever even formed

The huge decline in birthrates proves this
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Nope. For average to moderately attractive women, guys who aren't using tinder, and who are average to slightly above average, can meet the looks threshold for many of these women. They won't meet the threshold to the point where women are throwing themselves at them, but so what. I see this, I've experienced this, and that chart which shows that 30% of men have gone without sex for a year or whatever doesn't isolate the relevant variables.
Average women don't want Average men though. Their standards are inflated due to online dating and social media. Thats the entire problem. Men need to dumpster dive below their own level because its gotten so out of whack
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Average women don't want Average men though. Their standards are inflated due to online dating and social media. Thats the entire problem. Men need to dumpster dive below their own level because its gotten so out of whack
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Average women don't want Average men though. Their standards are inflated due to online dating and social media. Thats the entire problem. Men need to dumpster dive below their own level because its gotten so out of whack
This is what makes me think you're completely detached from reality. Average men struggling is something that's true for online dating, but it's not the case when you're talking about any average guy with a decent social circle, or who's social and normally adjusted himself. In these cases, what you wrote is complete fiction.

You have to be a full-blown incel to think like that to begin with--notice how eods' autism leads him to project and assume that everyone else has the problem socializing. You're doing the same thing, except you're projecting your own experiences with women, which are unique, out to the world.
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Originally Posted By blissful88
Until 8 or so years ago that was the ticket for everyone

It no longer applies now that women have access to hundreds of handsome men right on her cellphone; you need to stand out hugely



Like I said I haven't even dated this entire time & am still able to see this change happening; people are simply not staying together in relationships anymore if one is ever even formed

The huge decline in birthrates proves this
This post will get ignored but this is what is happening. Thank social media apps, smart phones and feminism. I legit started noticing it in late 2014 and opted out myself.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
when it comes to hooking up off apps its 100% down to looks
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
they dont give a chit about chads purpose. they match online, come over and fuk him and leave.
This. Misc makes simple things hard.
Originally Posted By Rebel012
Good, we can agree on some of those things, alienation, isolation, and negative economic prospects are responsible for many of the issues young men especially face today.
I'm a lot more Malthusian than "negative economic prospects" might indicate. First worlders are basically being priced out of existence, that's the long and short of it. Too many of us on a finite planet. So people having no way to afford a better life for their children, leads to no desire to have a family, and that leads to no need for relationships. That's where the global incel phenomenon is stemming from in every developed country on Earth.
Originally Posted By Rebel012
Also, I take jabs at you because you used to be a quality poster and then suddenly started going down the BBMG rabbit hole, at least on this topic. I'd also recommend you stop identifying as an "incel," which is more of a mindset than a state of actual sexual deprivation.
People don't like BBMG because he's combative and he's repetitive. But the thing is he's not actuallywrong. People are just too quick to shoot the messenger.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I really don't understand the lack of introspection by these dweeb?

Like how can you not possibly consider the same deficiencies that have you posting almost 2k times in a few months, pretending to be some other autist, might be contributing to your inceldom?

It's not funny, or clever, and like you said, just cringe and annoying at this point.


Same can be said for the endless nazi alts. They really think iits some.jewish conspiracy to hold them down... Couldn't possibly be their anti social mental illness?

How do you even end up on a bodybuilding forum posting nazi and incel chit when you don't even lift?? I really need an answer to this
Not only do a lot of them lack self-awareness, but you can always spot a toxic incel by their level of obsession with a woman's past sex life, based on nothing but black pill videos. Granted they're not the only ones who do that, but the bitterness that they weren't first in line with these women likely reinforces their behavior and failures to some degree.
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stop calling other men incel.

that is a disrespect against the male gender. if you are a man calling another man incel, you are disrespecting your own gender and worshipping the women goddesses.
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
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Originally Posted By Gaedj
I thought this was just a BS online stat but I've actually met several dudes irl who are legit good looking and still virgins. Wtf is going on.
The standards for men to be “good looking” changed a LOT between say 2010 to now. You have to be basically male model material to have consistent access to women these days as a youngster.
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Originally Posted By eod8989
This post will get ignored but this is what is happening. Thank social media apps, smart phones and feminism. I legit started noticing it in late 2014 and opted out myself.
Yea, Tinder and Instagram completely changed the game. People here can deny it but it’s true. I’m far from an incel but I have noticed the changes and seen it get more challenging for me personally. I’m not a fat, ugly, bald, or short dude either.
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It goes way deeper than you guys think.

It's an organized crime syndicate unofficially named The Timmy Crew.

Used to think Lunatic was the leader but turns out he's only one leader.

All evidence is pointing to the top leader being DemFeelsBro.

His alias is an adaptation of Batman villain The Joker, but he is "The Jelqer".

He's exactly like The Joker except for one crucial detail:

Where The Joker is obsessed with interweaving humor into his fiendish misdeeds, The Jelqer is based on having a really small penis (which is the same thing when you think about it).
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.
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