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post 1671213513 11-16-2022, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting how a topic that kind of veered off on a tangent of how "immigrants have a good command of English" is now a full blown display of how beavercels have a really low understanding of the English language.

So, let me make it simpler, what was your first shot of the primary series, BNT162b2 or Comirnaty?

Just reply either

BNT162b2

Or

Comirnaty

Feel free to copy and paste those words right into your reply.

Anything other than a single word in your reply will just confirm that you're deflecting because you know it was misinformation all along.
Comirnaty
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
GST wasn't a new tax, dummy. It was a replacement for the hidden VAT tax. They lowered the tax rate and applied it to more goods and services. And it didn't help all that much, because I don't think you realize just how far into debt Canada was and the amount of interest they were paying. Dude, you could get CSBs that paid 18% at the time.

You literally have no clue.
GST is, itself, a VAT. It was a replacement for the hiddenMST. Yes, the rate was lowered on some things, but as you yourself said, applied more broadly. Can you conclusively say one way or the other whether the new GST ended up raising more or less funds than the previous MST?

Would you care to explain the background on how/why Canada was so far in debt leading up to this?
post 1671214003 11-16-2022, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Thanks for doubling down on the misinformation your government spreads.
That's what my records show
post 1671214123 11-16-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Milo1974⏩
GST is, itself, a VAT. It was a replacement for the hiddenMST. Yes, the rate was lowered on some things, but as you yourself said, applied more broadly. Can you conclusively say one way or the other whether the new GST ended up raising more or less funds than the previous MST?

Would you care to explain the background on how/why Canada was so far in debt leading up to this?
Gee did you look up the wikipedia entry for Canada GST? Good for you. The MST was a VAT tax. The GST is a VAT tax. Do you even know what the term VAT even means?

Dum dum, you can look up who created all that debt. And perhaps lobotomize yourself afterwards, you condescending loser.

Do you even know how GST is remitted?
post 1671214243 11-16-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The current situation here suggests things aren't "just fine". Hence this thread.
What situation? After over a year, no issues now all of a sudden this crap starts up again? You really can't see the writing on the wall? It's just another attempt at tyrannical little despots trying to keep unjustified power. There is no situation, Covid is as mild as the flu now, it's over and any attempts to convince others to the contrary is nothing more than fabricated BS.
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post 1671214363 11-16-2022, 10:23 AM
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i don't worry about viruses until i see the nurses making dancing tiktoks tbh
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post 1671214453 11-16-2022, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
What situation? After over a year, no issues now all of a sudden this crap starts up again? You really can't see the writing on the wall? It's just another attempt at tyrannical little despots trying to keep unjustified power. There is no situation, Covid is as mild as the flu now, it's over and any attempts to convince others to the contrary is nothing more than fabricated BS.
Hmmm. Dunno how familiar you are with the current situation in Ontario (thread topic), but it's seems perhaps not so familiar.

It's the "mild" flu, "mild" RSV, together with "mild" covid that has us with no pediatric ICU space.
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Gee did you look up the wikipedia entry for Canada GST? Good for you. The MST was a VAT tax. The GST is a VAT tax. Do you even know what the term VAT even means?

Dum dum, you can look up who created all that debt. And perhaps lobotomize yourself afterwards, you condescending loser.

Do you even know how GST is remitted?
Ontario is on that HST time.
post 1671214833 11-16-2022, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And it is literally impossible.

But thanks for confirming that you believe misinformation is good, as long as it is spread by your own government.
What's on your receipt?
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Originally Posted By badreligion⏩
There is no situation, Covid is as mild as the flu now, it's over and any attempts to convince others to the contrary is nothing more than fabricated BS.
Covid was never as symptomatically dangerous as Influenza to otherwise healthy persons, only more contagious

The latest strains often get confused with allergies or present no symptoms at all
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legit imagine being a jabbie

fuark

waking up every day wondering when the mystery clot is gonna strike

know deep down you're a legit cuckold who's more prone to infection than natty immunity demigods

fkn brutal, boys

inb4 negative efficacy was all part of the plan
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
That's not relevant, now is it?

What is relevant is that you are now claiming to have received a different vaccine than what you have claimed to have received in the past, and what's better, one that didn't exist at the time.
Nope. I said I got Pfizer.

Might go moderna for the bivalent when/if it's offered here though.
post 1671215503 11-16-2022, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Don't forget the part where you try to defend your position by making up stories about receiving a vaccine that did not even exist at the time - like our friend Justin's Little Cuck is doing a couple of posts up.



Just LOL @ beavercel vaxcucks srs.

Hey, it could be worse, you could be a rentard as well, like your pal Woofie...

Even bigger LOL @ beavercel vaxcuck rentards srs.
What does your receipt say?

You've held the position that the vaccine changed fundamentally with the marketing name change for some time now, but have yet to support that position.
post 1671216063 11-16-2022, 10:52 AM
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TLDR: If they had children's medication on the shelves at pharmacies, this would be less of an issue.

Since most burgercels don't follow our news:

Canada - specifically Ontario - is having hospital issues, with emergency care being on the rise; however, they are only ever speak of hospitals being over-capacity for pediatric (children's) care. This is because since March 2022, there has been a shortage of all children's medication - Tylenol, Advil, Motrin, etc. They don't have them on the shelves at stores; and your best option is asking a pharmacist for some.

Since parents cannot get medication for their children, the only place to go is the hospital. This is causing the hospital to have rising cases. Some of these issues can be resolved at home if they had OTC medication; but they don't.

This has nothing to do with COVID, or the lack of funding in the hospitals. It's a whole other issue that the Government refuses to acknowledge because it will upset a specific province.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
TLDR: If they had children's medication on the shelves at pharmacies, this would be less of an issue.

Since most burgercels don't follow our news:

Canada - specifically Ontario - is having hospital issues, with emergency care being on the rise; however, they are only ever speak of hospitals being over-capacity for pediatric (children's) care. This is because since March 2022, there has been a shortage of all children's medication - Tylenol, Advil, Motrin, etc. They don't have them on the shelves at stores; and your best option is asking a pharmacist for some.

Since parents cannot get medication for their children, the only place to go is the hospital. This is causing the hospital to have rising cases. Some of these issues can be resolved at home if they had OTC medication; but they don't.

This has nothing to do with COVID, or the lack of funding in the hospitals. It's a whole other issue that the Government refuses to acknowledge because it will upset a specific province.
Except kids aren't hospitalized or admitted to ICU because they don't have ibuprofen.

I agree that demand for medication outpacing supply is indicative of a community health crisis though.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Except kids aren't hospitalized or or in the ICU because they don't have ibuprofen.

I agree that demand for medication outpacing supply is indicative of a community health crisis though.
Children who need to be in the hospital will go to the hospital - just like they did in the past. If your kid is sick, your first point of contact is your family doctor. If they cannot help you, they will tell you to go to the hospital. If parents have no medicine, and their kid has a fever, they have nothing else to do but see if the hospital can treat it.

I don't know why this wasn't an emergency back in March when we couldn't find medication, but now it's coming down hard and people are blaming everyone but the root cause.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
Children who need to be in the hospital will go to the hospital - just like they did in the past. If your kid is sick, your first point of contact is your family doctor. If they cannot help you, they will tell you to go to the hospital. If parents have no medicine, and their kid has a fever, they have nothing else to do but see if the hospital can treat it.

I don't know why this wasn't an emergency back in March when we couldn't find medication, but now it's coming down hard and people are blaming everyone but the root cause.
Hmmm.

ICU capacity in southwestern Ontario suggested otherwise.

Edit: perhaps we're conflating separate issues.
1) Wait times in ER's are currently ridiculous.

2) Pediatric admissions are at a historical high

3) PICU's are full
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
That's not relevant, now is it?

What is relevant is that you are now claiming to have received a different vaccine than what you have claimed to have received in the past, and what's better, one that didn't exist at the time.
It always kills me how when someone asks you a question it's suddenly "not relevant" but you ask others questions over and over again that have nothing to do with the thread expecting an answer.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
TLDR: If they had children's medication on the shelves at pharmacies, this would be less of an issue.

Since most burgercels don't follow our news:

Canada - specifically Ontario - is having hospital issues, with emergency care being on the rise; however, they are only ever speak of hospitals being over-capacity for pediatric (children's) care. This is because since March 2022, there has been a shortage of all children's medication - Tylenol, Advil, Motrin, etc. They don't have them on the shelves at stores; and your best option is asking a pharmacist for some.

Since parents cannot get medication for their children, the only place to go is the hospital. This is causing the hospital to have rising cases. Some of these issues can be resolved at home if they had OTC medication; but they don't.

This has nothing to do with COVID, or the lack of funding in the hospitals. It's a whole other issue that the Government refuses to acknowledge because it will upset a specific province.
It's because the labels aren't in French and English. Our government is too spineless to tell French people to jump in a lake when it comes to importing things that could help our overwhelmed health care system.

I swear the first party that tells Quebec to just go away and we are done with all the French BS will have my vote for life.
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I'm not in Ontario, But I went to drop some mail off at a shoppers drug mart, (Post office inside) and there was a line out the door, Literally. I walked past and beside everyone and the clerk says " Sir the line starts back there" and I asked For the post office? Her reply: Oh? You are not here for a vaccination?

No. I'm here to use the post office you wench.


I could not believe how many fcking people were in line to get vaxxed.
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Originally Posted By CockHorse⏩
I'm not in Ontario, But I went to drop some mail off at a shoppers drug mart, (Post office inside) and there was a line out the door, Literally. I walked past and beside everyone and the clerk says " Sir the line starts back there" and I asked For the post office? Her reply: Oh? You are not here for a vaccination?

No. I'm here to use the post office you wench.


I could not believe how many fcking people were in line to get vaxxed.
Not everyone is on the misc, so they don't have access to the truth.

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The only areas I see people wearing masks are the uberliberal hellholes around Boston where I work. Its a virtue signal to their god "The Science". Pretty much everyone in the suburbs have moved on.
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Gee did you look up the wikipedia entry for Canada GST? Good for you. The MST was a VAT tax. The GST is a VAT tax. Do you even know what the term VAT even means?

Dum dum, you can look up who created all that debt. And perhaps lobotomize yourself afterwards, you condescending loser.

Do you even know how GST is remitted?
I never said that neither GST nor MST were VATs. I was merely being more specific than you, and asking for more specificity. You said that the GST didn't help all that much. Okay, fine - but to what degree, one way or the other? I brought up the GST as well as the high tax rate in Canada for liquor as reasons that there should be plenty of money going into the healthcare system up there, to say nothing of income tax. I would be more interested to know just how much $$ is supposed to be going into the healthcare system up there versus what actually is, and what it is being used for, etc. Why are there the doctor and nursing shortages, etc etc?

I kinda love how I haven't sent a single abusive comment your way, but I'm literally tallying them up coming from you. Should count for something, I would think.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
TLDR: If they had children's medication on the shelves at pharmacies, this would be less of an issue.

Since most burgercels don't follow our news:

Canada - specifically Ontario - is having hospital issues, with emergency care being on the rise; however, they are only ever speak of hospitals being over-capacity for pediatric (children's) care.This is because since March 2022, there has been a shortage of all children's medication - Tylenol, Advil, Motrin, etc. They don't have them on the shelves at stores; and your best option is asking a pharmacist for some.

Since parents cannot get medication for their children, the only place to go is the hospital. This is causing the hospital to have rising cases. Some of these issues can be resolved at home if they had OTC medication; but they don't.

This has nothing to do with COVID, or the lack of funding in the hospitals. It's a whole other issue that the Government refuses to acknowledge because it will upset a specific province.
Aware. Because I follow some Canadian and UK people.
Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
It's because the labels aren't in French and English.Our government is too spineless to tell French people to jump in a lake when it comes to importing things that could help our overwhelmed health care system.

I swear the first party that tells Quebec to just go away and we are done with all the French BS will have my vote for life.
And I was aware of this being the "common narrative" as to why there is a shortage of children's analgesics and such.

FWIW I've also come across posts claiming that the supply of children's medication is being manipulated and that is isn't simply a labeling problem.

You might think that if it is just about the labels that the head rat catcher would consider printing labels that could be stuck on at the pharmacy. Heck, with cell phone you could probably paste on a QR code to be scanned that could link to product directions in multiple languages and in a font size that can be read without a magnifying glass. Imagine...
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
The main problem is due to that fact that the federal govt cut transfer payments for health back in the 90s due to the debt crisis, and that money has never been restored. Inflation adjusted, the Canadian health care system operates on about 60% of the funds it had in the pre debt crisis.
The main problem is actually that we have too many bureaucrats and not enough doctors and nurses. It's not as much a question of funding as it is where the money is spent, but that won't change because the bureaucrats want to protect their cushy jobs, so here we are.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Hmmm.

ICU capacity in southwestern Ontario suggested otherwise.

Edit: perhaps we're conflating separate issues.
1) Wait times in ER's are currently ridiculous.

2) Pediatric admissions are at a historical high

3) PICU's are full
Yeah, couldn't be the vaccine that has well known inimical effects on kids causing it right? Nooooo of course not because that's not FolLoWiNg ThE SciEnce
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
Covid was never as symptomatically dangerous as Influenza to otherwise healthy persons, only more contagious

The latest strains often get confused with allergies or present no symptoms at all
Exactly, No situation, no emergency or anything.
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Originally Posted By InVentive44⏩
Oh so you understand why a mandate may be required but you yourself are too selfish to take action?

Gotcha.
Exactly. Understanding is different from accepting it. It's like eating junk food knowing that it's bad for you but you still eat it anyway. Plus, masking would only work if everyone is wearing masks, not just me.
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