So Putin tried to grab land the size of Ukraine with an army of 190k men? You must really think he's retarded. This was about Russian security - both for Crimea and for the Donbass. If he were trying to roll in Hitler style, he'd have assembled a massive army. And the nazi angle is vital here. Why not attack Lithuania or Finland? This isn't purely about NATO or democracy. It's about the growing threat of Ukrainian Nazism/ultranationalism to Russian interests.

Glad you talked to him

It is not a simple land grab. It is a national security concern of Russia that you and others refuse to acknowledge. Peace talks cannot even begin to show unless Russian concerns are addressed be they real or not or any shade of gray in-between.

Azov grew due to Ukrainian national security concerns as they were a legitimate mechanism to respond militarily. Their power and influence grew in their regions of influence and all of the sudden there were nazi parades and a very clear and politically charged vein to tap for support for war among Russian citizens.

Nothing wrong with saying they have a nazi problem that grew into government organically and out of necessity. It's a start of examining the situation, even if you deduce in totality the nazi involvement is overall, not significant like me.

Nothing wrong with that perspective. They have some legit problems where that nazism blends into nationalism there and taints the patriotism pool.

But Azov was founded after russia attacked Ukraine

It's true though. If he wanted to he could have done much more damage with a much larger force no matter how you desire to downplay Russian capability

No one argued that fact.

No one at all.

Everyone quotes that out of context. He was talking about the collapse of the USSR and the economic consequences. He doesn't have the forces to rebuild the USSR.

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/On_...and_Ukrainians

Here you can see how he really views Ukraine.Sadly, Ukraine did not reciprocate and respect Russia or its traditions. Ukraine became anti-Russia.

Russia strikes its own s-300 decoys just to score some cheap propaganda footage

know personally some Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Armenians who serve in Azov. It's funny to see how many here call this organization Nazi in general.

Ok but Crimea was
President of belarus claimed otherwise

That was him simply saying the USSR wasn't so shameful. He was proud of it.



Here, Lukashenko makes clear the point and threat they see. (Enable captions and autotranslate.)

You've been giving Putin rimjobs for the last 10 months and you are accusing others of spreading the gay? Memecope plz.

stop grooming up threads, libfem.

Phuck off, ped0. And stop doing constant laps around Elementary Schools during the day.

massive missile launches at the moment, a lot of air explosions in Kiyv, the air defense works perfectly.

Only one missile arrival on the left bank - Troeshchyna.

So much for outdated weaponry from third world countries making much of an impact.

There's hardly any power in Ukraine prior to today.

Why hang on to the story that theres enough air defense to prevent complete destruction of the power grid?

Why aren't citizens being evacuated ahead of it being finished off?

It's very strange how some of you think.

I'm here for memcop's response to hussar1 asserting the US got its ass handed to it MILITARILY by Iraq, Korea, Vietnam, ISIS, and Afghanistan.

Lmao rent free.

Russia is planning a nothern offensive into western Ukraine to cut offf Western Supplies.

A large number of men are being mobilised, greater than the 300k originally detailed.

This is going to be a blood bath for Ukraine.

How can cutting edge brand new technology be outdated?

How can technology that has shown omre combat effectiveness than the F-35 and F-22 combined be considered ineffective.

Massive Russian strikes on the infrastructure of Ukraine. What is known so far:

The mayor of Kharkiv confirmed attacks on critical infrastructure, there were several explosions in the city, it is completely de-energized;

Ukrainian media report explosions in Kyiv, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Kirovohrad, Poltava, Ternopil and Mykolaiv regions;

The governor of the Odessa region reported hits on energy infrastructure facilities;

A number of sections of the railway are de-energized in Kharkiv, Kirovohrad and Dnepropetrovsk regions, diesel locomotives are put on the routes;

There are power outages throughout Ukraine. In particular, Kharkiv and Poltava are completely de-energized as per local media reports.

Having been invaded, I suspect that sentiment is likely to continue....

family size dorito bags being opened for banderistan again, one loves to see it

EXPLOSION of Dnepr hydroelectric power station
https://files.catbox.moe/yqpo6y.mp4


"Looks like 3 missiles hit the turbine itself this time and not just the transformer or the distribution part of a power plant."

Great article by Codepink's Caitlin Johnstone on foreign policy:

https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.co...m_medium=email

"The humanity of the not-too-distant future operates very differently from the humanity of today, either because it learned to work in cooperation with itself and with its ecosystem or because it's an extinct species, yet most visions for our future imagine we'll remain the same. We need to abandon the notion that the humanity of the future will move and operate in more or less the same way as the humanity of today, just with better technology. That is the very least likely of all possible outcomes."

https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/16/...odes-in-berlin

Largest free standing aquarium in the world located in Berlin just blew up due to freezing temps.

Weapons sent to Ukraine are winding up in Lake Chad. Boko Haram has obtained some weapons.

https://punchng.com/russia-ukraine-w...ad-buhari/?amp

Bro even zaluzhny is admitting people will start freezing to death soon

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(16 December 2022)

◽️Russian Federation Armed Forces continue the special military operation.

💥In Kupyansk direction, as a result of the shelling up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, two armoured fighting vehicles and three pickup trucks have been eliminated near Berestovoye and Kislovka (Kharkov region).

💥In Krasniy-Liman direction, as a result of the offensive in separate directions and artillery strikes more than 50 Ukrainian servicemen, two infantry fighting vehicles and three pickup trucks have been eliminated. In addition, three AFU sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been eliminated near Terny (Donetsk People's Republic) and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

💥In Donetsk direction, Russian troops continued their offensive, knocking the enemy out of its positions. Three enemy counterattacks have been repelled near Artyomovsk and Shumy (Donetsk People's Republic) and Belogorovka (Lugansk People's Republic). As a result of the shelling, AFU units have been dispersed and pushed back to their initial positions. The enemy's losses amounted to more than 40 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, three armoured fighting vehicles and two motor vehicles.

💥In South Donetsk direction, as a result of preemptive actions by Russian troops and complex fire attacks, an attempted attack by a reinforced company of the AFU near Sladkoye (Donetsk people's republic) was thwarted. Two AFU sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been destroyed near Novomayorskoye and Shevchenko (Donetsk People's Republic). Up to 50 Ukrainian servicemen and three motor vehicles have been eliminated.

◽️The missile troops and artillery have neutralised the command posts of units of the 1st Territorial Defence Brigade near Berislav (Kherson region), the 102nd and 108th Territorial Defence Brigades near Guliaipole (Zaporozhye region), 64 artillery units in firing positions, and personnel and military equipment in 93 areas.

💥 One AFU warhouse of rocket and artillery arms has been destroyed near Kharkov. One radar station of S-300 surface-to-air missile system has been destroyed near Ray-Aleksandrovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

◽️Air defence forces shot down four AFU unmanned aerial vehicles near Novovaya Tarasovka (Kharkov Region), Novoukrainskoye, Grafskoye and Sladkoye (Donetsk People's Republic). In addition, two HIMARS rockets have been intercepted near Pervomaisk (Lugansk People's Republic).

📊In total, 344 airplanes and 184 helicopters, 2,673 unmanned aerial vehicles, 396 air defence missile systems, 7,134 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 931 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 3,689 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,625 units of special military hardware have been destroyed during the special military operation.