Well we arent going to agree on this.

you forget my good qualities. Im a solid beta bucks. I have the pedigree and HAD the salary that I could beta buxx my way to at least an average woman.

Hell my dad did that and he was broke. but that was the 80s.

I get that we chit on single moms a lot here, but they aren't all a bunch of evil, conniving bitches. Sure, some are, but childless women can be just as bad. I feel like you want a family, but don't particularly like women.

I dont think they're evil. I just think that would be a situation where she is lowering her standards out of desperation and doesnt actually like me. Wouldnt have wanted me if her situation was different.

nahhh... i used to be a pathetic rotter like you. Trust me.

I dropped that mentality and took a solid risk and it paid off. You gotta have the same mindset of: There is hope somewhere down the line.

You just can't do it with ur weakass bish mentality

And you won't consider the possibility that she may actually like you? If that's the case, do you think it's impossible for any woman to actually like you for reasons other than money or raising her kids?

Also, do you like women?

So how are women building a high body count but also being increasingly selective?

Welcome to Atlanta

Ok, even if true, what would be the reward for all that effort? Whats the incentive?

Beo shut the **** up; don't you have an ivy-league degree.

«So hard to Get laid in *insert year*»
Heard this for almost 10 years now

Meanwhile club sloots havent changed from 2012 until now. Clubs are still packed & sloots are still There to get fuked. What exactly is different?

I dont Get the Tinder or IG cope. Why would those apps make it easier to fuk? That only applies to High inhibition geeks that only make moves thru text

....this your first day on the misc. 80-20 rule?


You have a high % of women fuking a minority of men. In realikty I believe its something like the 90 - 50 rule. 90% of women are sleeping with the top 50% of men.

The bottom half of men right now are fighting for the last 10% of women.

I used to chit on them too but as I've gotten older into my mid 30s I realize that some people refuse to spend their lives with someone they don't love. I'm not gunna overly praise them, some single moms are dumb bishes, but some are people who took control of their lives back. It takes a certain degree of balls to say **** it I'd rather do this on my own then with someone I don't love or respect. People end up so miserable because they stay with eachother simply out of convenience.

I respect anyone who has enough nuts to quit a job, leave a ****ty relationship, or basically change their situation to make themselves happy.


But yeah sometimes they can just be whores, but youll never know if you just judge a book by its cover. And as for the men who date them, it couldn't be me, but I'm not in a desperate position looking for love. Raising a kid is a man and womans job, even if it's not your biological child. That child will still be better off with you then without most likely.

improving your life? ensuring a great future for yourself?

or nah just give up and rot like a lil bish

Id look at it like this. given that next to zero women have ever given me the time of day, the odds say she would have been no different.

If I had a normal dating life, with a reasonable amount of success before she came into the picture, I would think differently.

But given my results so far at age 31, I have no choice but to assume it would be out of desperation. too much a coincidence that someone who 'truly' likes me just so happens to be an agining baby momma with mouths to feed and bad options left.

I mean well you dont know what makes me happy. we havent talked about it. So how do you know what a great future is to me

nope, just called reality. Most people cant handle the truth but I swallow it raw and cold

Yes. why

the misc always attacks the messenger when its convenient to deflect from the uncomfortable truth.

Its actually .... its not surprising most people think this way, they are unable to really understand anothers persepctive ... but its just tiring.

I get the 80-20 rule but that doesn’t build a high body count because they wouldn’t have regular access to elite males. It’s one or the other.

I think you’re pissed off that your dad made it and you didn’t. The genetics are similar so you’re grasping at a society issue.

Dating/marrying a single mother is actually a really big ask. Basically all men throughout history have agreed, except for maybe in the last 100 years.

A man who stepped into that position used to be more of a "selfless hero" than an "ugly guy who appropriately lowered his standards".

You could still be happy and fulfilled as a man in that situation, but I can't really blame a guy for not wanting it.Particularlywhen people have an opinion that you're entitled if you don't do it. This essentially leads to the logic of the woman beingoweda husband even if she was sexually reckless and made herself undesirable. The man can (and should) forgive her, but I don't think he owes her. And the more people insist it is "owed" the more people push back and won't do it.

This article misses quite a bit. People with college degrees aren't working either. It doesn't touch on inceldom, home prices, or the availability of quality jobs in the US.

I have my own house. I was an athlete that played sports and been in shape my entire life. I WAS making 6 figures until 5 weeks ago. Ivy league education.

If im lazy ive still done more than the most men. so calling me that makes you look like an idiot but keep going.

i am also not insecurse. you have no idea what that word means. I am as open as anyone on the misc about my shortcomings. Most people have to delude themselves because they cant handle the truth.

Thats what confidence is. its not being delusional. Its undeerstanding who you are and accepting it. The misc confuses delusion for confidence. you're idiots

you dont need regular access to one specific guy. Even fat chicks can go online and get laid easily. These women are racking up astronomical body counts dude.

And weird comment about my dad....why would be mad about my dad making it.

BigBallsMcgee is an idiot - but in this case he's directionally right, although in my opinion he's off on the percentages.

I think in 2022-2023 it's more like a 90-10 rule. 10% of men are having sex with 90% of the girls.....being a top 2-3% guy myself, I'm telling you man, girls make it pretty easy for me. That doesn't mean a 50th percentile man can't bag a 50th percentile woman, but he's gotta work really hard to do it, and she'll likely feel like she's settling for him. Honestly not a good deal for the man - he's better off self-improving or going to a non-western country and getting a traditional wife.

This trend is ONLY going to accelerate - for example, things are even getting a bit harder for me to SOURCE new girls, once I source them I'm fine....but I have ZERO social media, and it seems Instagram is the place to be, but I refuse to be on that dumb chit, so when I need to replenish my stable of side girls (I have a long term GF, so only deal with side girls when I travel) I fire up Bumble (I'm banned from Hinge and Tinder is trash-tier girls) and source my matches, but attractive / fit / quality girls are fewer-and-fewer even for me, but I think that's mostly due to the waters I'm fishing in, and I don't care enough to create a social media presence, it's not that serious for me.

The girls are going to continue to be passed around by higher and higher status dudes since the world is getting smaller and smaller - even a dude like me flies girls out, the last 2 girls I've dated on the side for were from Chicago and Oklahoma - when I'm in Vegas I fly them in, and they know I have a serious GF....they don't care, when you first realize this it's pretty mind blowing, they'd rather deal with a higher-status guy who has a GF KNOWING they are side-chicks, that date a bunch of 50th percentile dorks in their geographic area b/c getting flown out to Vegas a few times a year is way more exciting to them.

P.S. BigBallsMcgee is still worthless and should rope because he refuses to do anything except complain about life. Change your life or rope already puss.

this is just the start. Normies are always late to the trends bubbling under the surface. They'll catch on to the other things once its way too late