12-18-2022, 02:18 AM
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God does not send people to Hell.
People put themselves into Hell.
Read some of the stuff posted on this forum. It becomes apparent that people torment themselves.
Honestly ask yourselves if there is anyone that can hurt you more than you can hurt yourelf.
Heaven is not something we are cognizant of. It exists in moments when we loose ourselves. Can you fathom heaven? If you can it's not heaven.
Ironically enough bliss, in part, is absence, which lends credence in the atheistic longing to return to the dark.
Determinism is a step away from nihilism. It feigns the spiritual while rendering it irrelevant.
I am a father. I know many things about my son. He will age, he will suffer, and he will die. But between all that he has choices to make. Whether he will see heaven or hell has not been determined.
People put themselves into Hell.
Read some of the stuff posted on this forum. It becomes apparent that people torment themselves.
Honestly ask yourselves if there is anyone that can hurt you more than you can hurt yourelf.
Heaven is not something we are cognizant of. It exists in moments when we loose ourselves. Can you fathom heaven? If you can it's not heaven.
Ironically enough bliss, in part, is absence, which lends credence in the atheistic longing to return to the dark.
Determinism is a step away from nihilism. It feigns the spiritual while rendering it irrelevant.
I am a father. I know many things about my son. He will age, he will suffer, and he will die. But between all that he has choices to make. Whether he will see heaven or hell has not been determined.
The closer we approach the uncertainty of life's ending the more we wish to trade all of the things we have acquired in exchange for all of the things we have lost: wealth for youth, knowledge for fresh curiosity, resignation for hope. We'd trade our wisdom for new experiences, but it is wisdom that will teach us that at the end of the road the only new experience is death.
12-18-2022, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
my point is your 'point' is completely off topic, why not talk about my counter rebut instead of pivoting to that? i can address that afteryou didn't get my point. what if he is all good? maybe killing a tribe on an island of 500 by not diverting a wave, and saves 2 scientists who save 10 thousand people due to their research?
what does good even mean? do you think god's definition of good aligns with a human? some people blame god for losing on a scratch off, stubbing their toe, others blame god for losing their limb or their family, or getting cancer. what is "good"?
what is god responsible for for being labeled good?
what does good even mean? do you think god's definition of good aligns with a human? some people blame god for losing on a scratch off, stubbing their toe, others blame god for losing their limb or their family, or getting cancer. what is "good"?
what is god responsible for for being labeled good?
12-18-2022, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
the difference with gods omnipotence being he's able to instantly flick the switch and not only remember everything 'new' but everything that happened in the state of dementiaDuring the time period you were demented, yeah. You didn't know. After you undement yourself, the new you can know.
I'm an atheist, and I'm directly challenging or at the very least, requesting a clarification on what it means to be all knowing and all powerful. I contend these are mathematically contradictory without some restriction to interpret what "all" means. I.e., all of what?
I'm an atheist, and I'm directly challenging or at the very least, requesting a clarification on what it means to be all knowing and all powerful. I contend these are mathematically contradictory without some restriction to interpret what "all" means. I.e., all of what?
me talking about dementia in a human isn't a direct comparison for obvious reasons, we aren't god. it's to prove you're still aware of your surroundings even after the fact. God is still all knowing despite lowering himself at times
12-18-2022, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Overthrow⏩
that's such a gay atheist thing to say, you know what all powerful means. stop being a retardI'm an atheist, and I'm directly challenging or at the very least, requesting a clarification on what it means to be all knowing and all powerful. I contend these are mathematically contradictory without some restriction to interpret what "all" means. I.e., all of what?
12-18-2022, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie⏩
Well that's just your opinion - predeterminism is a good place to start after you realize that conventional religion makes no sense, but there's much more to learn afterwards.determinism, which i believe is the most likely theory to explain everything down to the creation of the universe disproves the existence of a god that would send people to hell or heaven. If determinism is correct, meaning no one has true free choice, it would not make sense for an all knowing god to punish someone for something that is out of their control. Thoughts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinism
I think we have free will and that's because i know that I am separate to my mind and body which are theoretically bound to the laws of physics.
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12-18-2022, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted By MyGhettoFantasy⏩
This, just look at wincel, the best example of this.God does not send people to Hell.
People put themselves into Hell.
Read some of the stuff posted on this forum. It becomes apparent that people torment themselves.
Honestly ask yourselves if there is anyone that can hurt you more than you can hurt yourelf.
Heaven is not something we are cognizant of. It exists in moments when we loose ourselves. Can you fathom heaven? If you can it's not heaven.
Ironically enough bliss, in part, is absence, which lends credence in the atheistic longing to return to the dark.
Determinism is a step away from nihilism. It feigns the spiritual while rendering it irrelevant.
I am a father. I know many things about my son. He will age, he will suffer, and he will die. But between all that he has choices to make. Whether he will see heaven or hell has not been determined.
People put themselves into Hell.
Read some of the stuff posted on this forum. It becomes apparent that people torment themselves.
Honestly ask yourselves if there is anyone that can hurt you more than you can hurt yourelf.
Heaven is not something we are cognizant of. It exists in moments when we loose ourselves. Can you fathom heaven? If you can it's not heaven.
Ironically enough bliss, in part, is absence, which lends credence in the atheistic longing to return to the dark.
Determinism is a step away from nihilism. It feigns the spiritual while rendering it irrelevant.
I am a father. I know many things about my son. He will age, he will suffer, and he will die. But between all that he has choices to make. Whether he will see heaven or hell has not been determined.
Refuses to lift
Refuses to study (apart from garbage no 1 cares about that doesnt help him either)
Refuses to help others
Refuses to submit to any authority apart from his penis, gut and neurotransmitters
Obsessed with wasting time making people who dislike him more adamant in their beliefs.
He is literally in hell;
No hope of things getting bettter
Surrounde by people he hates who hate him
No seeming point to any of it
All by his choice
Meanwhile look at Ascendvious;
Self sufficient
Based af
Joyful af
Kind af
Despite being just as hated (lb for lb due to extreme hatred from leftoid demons), he has CHOSEN to use his knowledge, attitude and worldview for good.
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