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post 1673080833 12-18-2022, 10:57 AM
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Messi cements his GOAT status, wins WC for his country

wow.
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post 1673080923 12-18-2022, 10:58 AM
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post 1673080983 12-18-2022, 10:58 AM
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Better than Pele? I think not.
post 1673080993 12-18-2022, 10:59 AM
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Yeah i had ROnaldo over him before this

Can't deny Messi leapfrogged with the win
post 1673081083 12-18-2022, 10:59 AM
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Fuvking best game I've seen
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Messi is goat af
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Better than Pele? I think not.
Pele is a question mark

Half his **** can’t be found


I’d say Messi >>maradona
post 1673081103 12-18-2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Better than Pele? I think not.
nah it's kinda undisputed now
Messi goat status now
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post 1673081263 12-18-2022, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz
nah it's kinda undisputed now
Messi goat status now
Three world cups vs one.
post 1673081293 12-18-2022, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Better than Pele? I think not.
he's undisputed now, GOAT, better than pele
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post 1673081323 12-18-2022, 11:02 AM
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You misspelled RAT.
post 1673081353 12-18-2022, 11:03 AM
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post 1673081383 12-18-2022, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Three world cups vs one.
WC championships are a team accomplishment


Messi took Argentina to -2- wc final's and won 1


Messi is a better individual player.
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post 1673081393 12-18-2022, 11:03 AM
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Pele was a different era, less skilled players... just like MJ in basketball
post 1673081423 12-18-2022, 11:03 AM
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Messi haters tilting their heads back and swallowing his load
post 1673081463 12-18-2022, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007
Three world cups vs one.
i think pele included his fifa goals in video games srs
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post 1673081583 12-18-2022, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Barteh
You misspelled RAT.
LMfao clearly as butthurt dutchman.

However, I agree, Messi is not the goat.
post 1673081603 12-18-2022, 11:05 AM
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Good move and congrats to him

Chitty how so much FIFAs & Qatars bs effects the event
post 1673081613 12-18-2022, 11:05 AM
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3 goals for Mbappe.

2 for Messi.

Regardless, two of the greatest players in the world on the pitch.
post 1673081693 12-18-2022, 11:06 AM
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Pele was playing agains plumbers and carpenters ded fkn srs
post 1673082023 12-18-2022, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
WC championships are a team accomplishment


Messi took Argentina to -2- wc's and won 1


Messi is a better individual player.
Didn't Mbappe score literally every goal for France plus the pen? It might be a team sport, but you can't deny one player being the major reason a team has big success.
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post 1673082583 12-18-2022, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By 20Mavs11
Didn't Mbappe score literally every goal for France plus the pen? It might be a team sport, but you can't deny one player being the major reason a team has big success.
are you arguing mbappe is better than messi, because hes not

Messi setup, assisted or scored every goal for Argentina, like he has done all WC pretty much
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post 1673084423 12-18-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Messi setup, assisted or scored every goal for Argentina, like he has done all WC pretty much
he even set one up for Mbappe
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post 1673084873 12-18-2022, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
are you arguing mbappe is better than messi, because hes not

Messi setup, assisted or scored every goal for Argentina, like he has done all WC pretty much
No, I'm arguing this point you made :WC championships are a team accomplishment

France wouldn't have done **** without a single player. That player being Mbappe. Soccer goes beyond the team sometimes when you have a huge superstar in their prime on the squad.
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post 1673085083 12-18-2022, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By AWSbruh
Pele was playing agains plumbers and carpenters ded fkn srs
This. Best of his time but not goat. Royce Gracie dominated UFC in his era but you can never call him the goat because the level of competition was very different. He’d be obliterated today. Same deal.
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Originally Posted By goingcia
This. Best of his time but not goat. Royce Gracie dominated UFC in his era but you can never call him the goat because the level of competition was very different. He’d be obliterated today. Same deal.
it's always brought up in these kind of discussion but it's not Pele's fault football wasn't as professional as it is today

imagine people chitting on Messi in 2060 since he "was playing against bums"....

where do you draw the line?
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Originally Posted By TokenV
it's always brought up in these kind of discussion but it's not Pele's fault football wasn't as professional as it is today

imagine people chitting on Messi in 2060 since he "was playing against bums"....

where do you draw the line?
I prefer CR7 over Messi. But as of an hour ago, I'd have to give the nod to Messi.

But I'd put Maradona, Zidane, Brazilian Ronaldo on top.
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Originally Posted By TokenV
where do you draw the line?
When the difference in technical abilities isn't as big.. if somehow by 2060 they're playing some futuristic acrobatic kung fu soccer, then you bet messi abilities now will pale in comparison
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Originally Posted By MontanaLife
I prefer CR7 over Messi. But as of an hour ago, I'd have to give the nod to Messi.

But I'd put Maradona, Zidane, Brazilian Ronaldo on top.
not really sure why this is a response to my post?
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When the difference in technical abilities isn't as big.. if somehow by 2060 they're playing some futuristic acrobatic kung fu soccer, then you bet messi abilities now will pale in comparison
but what makes it so clear cut the level was so much worse when Pele was playing?

don't forget Pele himself also didn't have the means available every player has today so it levels out imo

what is essentialy so different in your opinion compared to 50 years ago?

also, he won the WC the last time in 1970, it's not like he was playing in the beginning of the century or something when the game just started expanding and nobody knew what the fuk they were doing
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