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post 1673444833 12-24-2022, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By ymer
It is your argument that was irrelevant, hence the neg.
Lmao, who gives a **** about internet points? Sad little guy.

Your comments are the irrelevant ones, Ukrainian's continue to support the war. A draft doesn't change that, and there are historical examples where this has been the case.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/21...ary-aid-putin/

TRY AGAIN.
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Adviser to the Head of the Office of President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy



Ukraine itching for WW3

Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Podolyak calls for the DESTRUCTION of Iranian weapons factories

Remember how they fired a missile into an ally country of theirs, Poland, that killed some civilians. Then they blamed it on Russia, even though later U.S. intelligence and NATO and even Poland themselves said it wasn't Russia…

How quickly everyone stopped talking about that once it came to light it was the Ukrops that fired the missile



Those flying doritos must be annoying the Ukrops...ayyLMAO
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Originally Posted By ymer
Apparently you do care a lot, because you seem very angry.

And you need to use logic and critical thinking instead of repeating propaganda. Why would the government need to FORCE people to fight? the only reason is because they won't do it voluntarily.

It's basic thinking, it's sad that you're 30 and you are this stupid.
WW2 is a classic example of where there was public support for the war but drafts were still required.

You have offered no sources, no nuffin. Just another one of the "Herp derp it's propaganda" crew when it doesn't agree with my argument.
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Originally Posted By ymer
God you're just too stupid.

The retard crew spreads faster than cancer.
I'm waiting for your sources that Ukrainian's don't support the war. I'll wait.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...weapons-biden/

The fighting in Ukraine has “exposed flaws in US strategic planning” and “revealed significant gaps” in the US and NATO military industrial base, the Washington Post reported on Friday. As Kiev’s forces consume more ammunition than the West can produce, the Pentagon seeks to cope by training them to fight more like Americans.

“Stocks of many key weapons and munitions are near exhaustion, and wait times for new production of missiles stretches for months and, in some cases, years,” the Post noted, as part of a narrative about how the US has funneled some $20 billion in military aid to Kiev just this year. Only $6 billion of that has been in new weapons contracts, while the rest came from the Pentagon stockpiles.

The US military-industrial complex can make about 14,000 rounds of ammunition for the 155-mm howitzers, the Post quoted US Army Secretary Christine Wormuth, while Ukrainian forces go through about 6,000 a day during heavy fighting.

The US military-industrial complex is “in pretty poor shape right now,” Seth Jones of the Washington-based think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) told the Post.

“We are really low… and we’re not even fighting,” Jones said, adding that in scenarios where the US is facing China or Russia in a conventional conflict, “we don’t make it past four or five days in a war game before we run out of precision missiles.”

“Is it enough?” Zelensky asked rhetorically amid his many expressions of gratitude during a Wednesday night address to Congress. “Honestly, not really.”


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F**k USA!

Biggest terrorist government on the planet.

All these wars is because of USA and puppet EU following their masters.


It’s because of USA that I’m paying 4times the price for my gas in London.

F***k USA.


All these war could easily be avoided if USA didn’t exists.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...weapons-biden/

The fighting in Ukraine has “exposed flaws in US strategic planning” and “revealed significant gaps” in the US and NATO military industrial base, the Washington Post reported on Friday. As Kiev’s forces consume more ammunition than the West can produce, the Pentagon seeks to cope by training them to fight more like Americans.

“Stocks of many key weapons and munitions are near exhaustion, and wait times for new production of missiles stretches for months and, in some cases, years,” the Post noted, as part of a narrative about how the US has funneled some $20 billion in military aid to Kiev just this year. Only $6 billion of that has been in new weapons contracts, while the rest came from the Pentagon stockpiles.

The US military-industrial complex can make about 14,000 rounds of ammunition for the 155-mm howitzers, the Post quoted US Army Secretary Christine Wormuth, while Ukrainian forces go through about 6,000 a day during heavy fighting.

The US military-industrial complex is “in pretty poor shape right now,” Seth Jones of the Washington-based think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) told the Post.

“We are really low… and we’re not even fighting,” Jones said, adding that in scenarios where the US is facing China or Russia in a conventional conflict, “we don’t make it past four or five days in a war game before we run out of precision missiles.”


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I am 1000% with Russia on this war.


I hope he destroy Zelensky and his ideology for good.
It will happen.


World is waking up.
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post 1673447673 12-24-2022, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Deth2Amerikkka
That's not what is happening though. You understand that literal fascists were marching in Kyiv, Lviv, and Odessa and killing people right? You understand that the Crimeans wanted to leave right? I mean this is the core denial. You're arguing that Putin somehow manipulated the situation and that it is all fake. You're completely ignoring the deep cultural differences between western and eastern Ukraine. Tell me then if the Ukrainians loved Crimea so much and sought to save their beloved citizens, why did they cut off water to 2 million of them?

Here's your boy Zelensky laughing about it



And if Ukraine is so peace loving, why is Poroshenko on record claiming Minsk 2 was only to buy time? Why did he integrate fascist battalions into his government and rehabilitate the image of nazi collaborators? Why did Ukraine assassinate the head of the DPR?



And Zelensky promised peace when he ran and to strike the racist language laws.



But we see when he came to power, he was resisted.

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...ngagement.html

See, none of this makes sense in the context of your narrative.

According to you, this is an unprovoked assault. According to you, Russia's annexation of Crimea was pure aggression. And yet, you do not think cutting off water to 2 million people is aggression or assassinating separatist leaders after peace talks is aggression.

These are not "Russian talking points". they are legitimate holes in the false western narrative of the conflict. We like to westernize everything and view every confrontation as a battle of good vs evil. It is not so, and that is an incredibly juvenile way of looking at conflict. In reality, we had ample opportunity to prevent this war. We chose not to, and ****inator's post above shows why. To the ghouls in Washington, it's the best money they ever spent.

But there will be consequences to this shameless unethical and selfish action. We have committed to a divided world, and the weapons we send can and will end up in terrorist and criminal hands. Those weapons will be used against our allies someday. There will be blowback. And should Ukraine triumph, nazism will make its return to the world. And decades from now, you will wonder how you were hoodwinked into supporting this ideology.
quoting because no one replied and addressed this
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Originally Posted By Googooly
I am 1000% with Russia on this war.


I hope he destroy Zelensky and his ideology for good.
It will happen.


World is waking up.
Allahu akbar! Death to america!
post 1673448713 12-24-2022, 09:25 AM
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Fukin LOL russia is so incompetent. Zelensky can travel all the way to the US unimpeded while putin hides in a bunker
Survival. When the jungle tears itself down and builds itself into something new. Guys like you and me, we end up dead. Doesn’t really mean anything. Or, if we happen to live through it, well that doesn’t mean anything either.
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Allahu akbar! Death to america!
I don’t believe in god or all that none sense. I believe in Russias ability to defend itself and the world from tyranny of US government.
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“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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Originally Posted By infinit
Plenty of countries have historically had drafts where the population is generally supportive of the war.
Yeah as long as its someome else fighting. Just like the retard crew
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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In Nikolaev and Kiev, wives and children of prisoners and missing soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine go to rallies demanding to return their relatives home

Women with posters “Bring back my husband”, “Six months in suspense”, “Bring back relatives from captivity!”


Honestly, feels bad. Most of these people won't see their relatives, brothers, fathers, husbands again. Kiev refuses to acknowledge the massive amount of lives lost at the front.





The process of loading and firing of the most powerful and in all senses unique in the world self-propelled gun "Malka" was shown by the artillerymen of the Central Military District. This “wunderwaffe” belongs to the high-power artillery and has the largest current caliber for a production gun—203 mm. All this power, despite its tank weight (46.5 tons), moves pretty fast under its own power—on a good road it can gain up to 50 km/h. And it takes less than 5 minutes to turn the self-propelled vehicle into battle.

Fragmentation shells "Malka" are used by fighters of the group “Daring” to hit the fortifications and positions of the enemy's artillery. The weight of one such gift is about 110 kg. There are also concrete and cluster ammunition for demolition of Ukrops in the arsenal. It is capable of firing nuclear ammunition.



Fuark, stay safe Ukrops
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post 1673450953 12-24-2022, 10:10 AM
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Remember when the ukrainian gestapo served draft orders to people protesting the mobilization

The retard crew thinks this means the people drafted want to fight
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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So vatcucks, how's Bakhmut going
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Originally Posted By Deth2Amerikkka
That's not what is happening though. You understand that literal fascists were marching in Kyiv, Lviv, and Odessa and killing people right? You understand that the Crimeans wanted to leave right? I mean this is the core denial. You're arguing that Putin somehow manipulated the situation and that it is all fake. You're completely ignoring the deep cultural differences between western and eastern Ukraine. Tell me then if the Ukrainians loved Crimea so much and sought to save their beloved citizens, why did they cut off water to 2 million of them?

Here's your boy Zelensky laughing about it



And if Ukraine is so peace loving, why is Poroshenko on record claiming Minsk 2 was only to buy time? Why did he integrate fascist battalions into his government and rehabilitate the image of nazi collaborators? Why did Ukraine assassinate the head of the DPR?



And Zelensky promised peace when he ran and to strike the racist language laws.



But we see when he came to power, he was resisted.

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...ngagement.html

See, none of this makes sense in the context of your narrative.

According to you, this is an unprovoked assault. According to you, Russia's annexation of Crimea was pure aggression. And yet, you do not think cutting off water to 2 million people is aggression or assassinating separatist leaders after peace talks is aggression.

These are not "Russian talking points". they are legitimate holes in the false western narrative of the conflict. We like to westernize everything and view every confrontation as a battle of good vs evil. It is not so, and that is an incredibly juvenile way of looking at conflict. In reality, we had ample opportunity to prevent this war. We chose not to, and ****inator's post above shows why. To the ghouls in Washington, it's the best money they ever spent.

But there will be consequences to this shameless unethical and selfish action. We have committed to a divided world, and the weapons we send can and will end up in terrorist and criminal hands. Those weapons will be used against our allies someday. There will be blowback. And should Ukraine triumph, nazism will make its return to the world. And decades from now, you will wonder how you were hoodwinked into supporting this ideology.
lmao still no replies
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel


Adviser to the Head of the Office of President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy



Ukraine itching for WW3

Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Podolyak calls for the DESTRUCTION of Iranian weapons factories

Remember how they fired a missile into an ally country of theirs, Poland, that killed some civilians. Then they blamed it on Russia, even though later U.S. intelligence and NATO and even Poland themselves said it wasn't Russia…

How quickly everyone stopped talking about that once it came to light it was the Ukrops that fired the missile



Those flying doritos must be annoying the Ukrops...ayyLMAO
They traitored their own people and sent them to the meat grinder and now they have a problem with Iran.

Jew president who hates slavic people and Iranians... suprised I am not.
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Originally Posted By burgundycop
lol

status = 3rd world muslim chithole like ALL muslim countries.
lol you realise plenty of muslim countries are much nicer than the US, including Iran. The US is a chithole full of violent crime.

I have been to more muslim countries than anyone else on this forum and I can assure you many are better than the US. Some are literally the best places in the world (*****).
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Surely nothing bad could happen if an autocratic theocratic sh*thole owns nukes right you guyz?


...vatniks man, when will they learn?
The US has nukes and are the only state to use them. The US should not be allowed nuclear weapons.
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Originally Posted By infinit
If you love Iran so much, why don't you go back to that ****hole?
Come to my town and say that you phucking cuck.

I can live in england and support my country of origin. If you don't like that you're chit out of luck because i'm the future of the UK. We have 500k immigrants per year.

I don't know where white brits get the balls and arrogance to say anything. White working class are literally at the bottom of the heirarchy in this country and yet you think you can say anything to me.

The reason you're at the bottom is because you're stupid, uneducated, drink too much... while at the same time being incredibly entitled.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Come to my town and say that you phucking cuck.

I can live in england and support my country of origin. If you don't like that you're chit out of luck because i'm the future of the UK. We have 500k immigrants per year.

I don't know where white brits get the balls and arrogance to say anything. White working class are literally at the bottom of the heirarchy in this country and yet you think you can say anything to me.

The reason you're at the bottom is because you're stupid, uneducated, drink too much... while at the same time being incredibly entitled.
Lmao, I'd say it right in your fekkin face.

I'm not working class, I couldn't really give a damn about who comes here generally, doesn't bother me. But since you hate it so much, why don't you **** off to the amazing Iran? If I disliked a place, I'd move.
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Originally Posted By infinit
Plenty of countries have historically had drafts where the population is generally supportive of the war.
Brother i dont think you understand just how stupid the people who are talking to are… dont expect them to grasp a point of logic.

Just make fun of them and laugh at their responses like the rest of us do.
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Originally Posted By infinit
Lmao, I'd say it right in your fekkin face.

I'm not working class, I couldn't really give a damn about who comes here generally, doesn't bother me. But since you hate it so much, why don't you **** off to the amazing Iran? If I disliked a place, I'd move.
Yeh and I'd lay you out. Like I done many times. I grew up in a white working class town and my dad put me into martial arts from 4 years old. I remember the days when guys were more than happy to get in your face and call yyou a 'paki ****', not this BS like you say... "I don't mind anyone but i don't liek the way you talk so you should leave".

I'll say whatever the phuck, you don;t get to tell me to leave or anything. If you don;t like it we can settle it with fists.

Guys liek you neeed to get out of the country, you're literally dragging us down.

Yeh, what did I say about the UK? You're defending the US by telling me to leave the UK. You're too stupid to even realise what you're saying.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Yeh and I'd lay you out. Like I done many times. I grew up in a white working class town and my dad put me into martial arts from 4 years old.

Guys liek you neeed to get out of the country, you're literally dragging us down.

Yeh, what did I say about the UK? You're defending the US by telling me to leave the UK. You're too stupid to even realise what you're saying.
Yeah bro. You were in the army, worked with the people who developed the F-35, and now a martial arts expert from the age of 4 who goes around laying everyone out. Ironically if you'd actually done any martial arts you'd know most preach conflict avoidance and using it as a last resort. Is there any more bollocks you'd like to make up?
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