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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
True. We can try to make educated guesses but no one knows for sure. It wouldn't be wise to trust the numbers Russia puts out. The finding out phase will begin in a few weeks, as soon as the ground in the southern part of Ukraine freezes.The newly mobilized men are in theatre as well. So there is no telling the actual number of men Russia has in Ukraine.
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Speculating about KIA & Casulaties is completely pointless. The only people who actually know wont tell you.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.
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Has Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine Doomed the Dollar?
It’s plausible that the yuan will become an alternative to the U.S. dollar in a “multipolar” world in a matter of years, not decades or centuries. This will deal a severe blow to American economy and global position that Washington may not be able to recover from.
This crisis has reshaped the international order and global realignments by offering states the opportunity to pursue their own self-interest without aligning themselves with a political camp. Broadly speaking, the crisis has divided the world into three camps: One led by the United States and NATO, one led by Russia and China, and wedged between these two camps is one in which most countries adopted neutrality
These neutral countries are cognizant of the reality that at a time of global competition over scarce resources they can neither sanction nor go against Russia, the largest country in the world with the largest amount of resources, and China, the country with the second-largest economy and largest holder of foreign reserves in the world.
They have been uneasy about America’s unipolar power since its unilateral invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Ukraine crisis and its ensuing ramifications for dividing the world, coupled with the virtual
unilateral invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Ukraine crisis and its ensuing ramifications for dividing the world, coupled with the virtual universal perception that American power is in decline following its debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, only sharpened these countries’ determination to try to curb American global power by supporting multipolarity and multilateralism. In this respect, China is leading the way by supporting international organizations such as Shanghai Cooperation Organization—the world’s largest regional political, economic, and security organization (https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-st...0rubles)—andBRICS as a counterbalance to Western economic, political, and security might
Indeed, while the SCO looks to advance (https://en.odkb-csto.org/international_org/sco/) a new “democratic, fair and rational international political and economic order,” BRICS—an acronym for five leading emerging economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa—promotes a transition to a multipolar world. They seek to provide alternatives to the Western-dominated International Monetary Fund and World Bank through institutions like the New Development Bank. Significantly, these organizations’ influence is being enhanced by the admission of new countries; For example, Algeria, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, and Iran have either submitted formal applications or expressed their willingness to join BRICS (https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...in-group-soon/).
Central to these developments is the attempt to weaken the American dollar as a prelude to weakening the overall global position of the United States. Fundamentally, the dollar is the underbelly of the United States. By examining economic patterns and trends, it is clear that many countries are reconsidering the use of the dollar as their major trading currency.
Most importantly, China has been strategizing the introduction of yuan-denominated crude oil futures and the payment for imported crude in its own currency rather than the U.S. dollar. In fact, China and Saudi Arabia have been engaged in active talks about Riyadh pricing some of its oil sales to Beijing in yuan (https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-a...es-11647351541).
No doubt should Saudi Arabia begin trading oil in yuan, the dominance of the U.S. dollar in the global petroleum market would suffer.
From an overseas vantage point, U.S. national debt has surpassed a staggering $31 trillion, and American global power has been declining. It’s no coincidence that some of the United States' allies or friends are considering using or holding different currencies in their trade and foreign reserves.
Today, Washington's global power is slowly yet steadily declining. By splitting the world into three broad camps, the Ukraine crisis, as prosecuted by NATO, has moved the “neutral camp” to inch closer to China and Russia.
It’s plausible that the yuan will become an alternative to the U.S. dollar in a “multipolar” world in a matter of years, not decades or centuries. This will deal a severe blow to American economy and global position that Washington may not be able to recover from.
This crisis has reshaped the international order and global realignments by offering states the opportunity to pursue their own self-interest without aligning themselves with a political camp. Broadly speaking, the crisis has divided the world into three camps: One led by the United States and NATO, one led by Russia and China, and wedged between these two camps is one in which most countries adopted neutrality
These neutral countries are cognizant of the reality that at a time of global competition over scarce resources they can neither sanction nor go against Russia, the largest country in the world with the largest amount of resources, and China, the country with the second-largest economy and largest holder of foreign reserves in the world.
They have been uneasy about America’s unipolar power since its unilateral invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Ukraine crisis and its ensuing ramifications for dividing the world, coupled with the virtual
unilateral invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Ukraine crisis and its ensuing ramifications for dividing the world, coupled with the virtual universal perception that American power is in decline following its debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, only sharpened these countries’ determination to try to curb American global power by supporting multipolarity and multilateralism. In this respect, China is leading the way by supporting international organizations such as Shanghai Cooperation Organization—the world’s largest regional political, economic, and security organization (https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-st...0rubles)—andBRICS as a counterbalance to Western economic, political, and security might
Indeed, while the SCO looks to advance (https://en.odkb-csto.org/international_org/sco/) a new “democratic, fair and rational international political and economic order,” BRICS—an acronym for five leading emerging economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa—promotes a transition to a multipolar world. They seek to provide alternatives to the Western-dominated International Monetary Fund and World Bank through institutions like the New Development Bank. Significantly, these organizations’ influence is being enhanced by the admission of new countries; For example, Algeria, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, and Iran have either submitted formal applications or expressed their willingness to join BRICS (https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...in-group-soon/).
Central to these developments is the attempt to weaken the American dollar as a prelude to weakening the overall global position of the United States. Fundamentally, the dollar is the underbelly of the United States. By examining economic patterns and trends, it is clear that many countries are reconsidering the use of the dollar as their major trading currency.
Most importantly, China has been strategizing the introduction of yuan-denominated crude oil futures and the payment for imported crude in its own currency rather than the U.S. dollar. In fact, China and Saudi Arabia have been engaged in active talks about Riyadh pricing some of its oil sales to Beijing in yuan (https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-a...es-11647351541).
No doubt should Saudi Arabia begin trading oil in yuan, the dominance of the U.S. dollar in the global petroleum market would suffer.
From an overseas vantage point, U.S. national debt has surpassed a staggering $31 trillion, and American global power has been declining. It’s no coincidence that some of the United States' allies or friends are considering using or holding different currencies in their trade and foreign reserves.
Today, Washington's global power is slowly yet steadily declining. By splitting the world into three broad camps, the Ukraine crisis, as prosecuted by NATO, has moved the “neutral camp” to inch closer to China and Russia.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Because I'm enjoying Rasha liberating Ucraine and transforming it into a proper democratic landWhat is your point in posting ITT? you are on the level of sal29, I don't see you post ANYWHERE else, and you only post dumb shiet like what is quoted. You are the definition of a Russian bot.
Eliminating all the Ucranian Nazis /Ucrainians in general is a big plus too
Don't be mad because you picked the wrong side bro. It's never too late to switch sides
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After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
Ukraine is a "corrupt, ****ed-up society" run by "****ed-up people"
Ukrainian soldiers "kill dudes who surrendered," commit "atrocities"
After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
Ukraine is a "corrupt, ****ed-up society" run by "****ed-up people"
Ukrainian soldiers "kill dudes who surrendered," commit "atrocities"
Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Yes, they lie and are not to be implicitly trusted but the Russian MOD has been the most reliable so far. Usually when they make direct statements it gets confirmed by third parties, video etc. Usually their method of deception is to lie by omission.Speculating about KIA & Casulaties is completely pointless. The only people who actually know wont tell you.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Just consult one of the highschool drop outs you guys watch on youtube for accurate numbers of numbers of troops and equiptment in theatreTrue. We can try to make educated guesses but no one knows for sure. It wouldn't be wise to trust the numbers Russia puts out. The finding out phase will begin in a few weeks, as soon as the ground in the southern part of Ukraine freezes.
Im sure theres one dude who can count into the teens who has an opinion
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
also a quote by milburnMax Blumenthal@MaxBlumenthal
After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
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After months in Ukraine training soldiers, Ret Col Andrew Milburn of @TheMozartGroup mercenary firm gets sauced on camera & spills the beans:
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"Russians are worse than ISIS" sept 22 2022
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
The most truth you will hear is from the RussiansSpeculating about KIA & Casulaties is completely pointless. The only people who actually know wont tell you.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.
The most truth you will hear is from the Russians and the least from the UK.

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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I followed plenty of conflicts not just this one. I have seen the reports from UK, USA and Russia. The Russians were by and far the most truthful.The most truth you will hear is from the Russians


Just look at the Syria war. For a long time everyone was wondering how ISIS was being funded. The Americans and brits acted like they didn't know and it was a big mystery.
The Russians highlighted how they were being funded, from which plants and which nations were collaborating them. They then destroyed all of their funding infrastructure.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
As if Zelensky is any better, your bias blinds you.The most truth you will hear is from the Russians


Just as it did when the Poland situation happened, and you were so convinced Zelensky was telling the truth…if he lied about that, what else did Zelensky and his administration lie about?
You probably also believe the Ukrainian numbers that ****inator likes to post ITT from the official Ukrainian MOD about Russia's death toll...
Originally Posted By chalup⏩
“I'm not a blind follower of Zelensky"…literally takes Zelenskys word as the truth without question….ayyLMAOI'm not a blind follower of Zelensky, I just believe in the people of Ukraine. They have tons of propaganda coming out, but when it comes to actual statements regarding the war itself, they have a better resume than people like Lavrov who have made statements such as " We will not invade Ukraine" days before sending 200k soldiers into foreign territory.
And yes, I do believe Russia has suffered 100k KIA. U mad?
And yes, I do believe Russia has suffered 100k KIA. U mad?
Not mad, just find it amusing how dumb you are. That's why we gave you the crown from all the other retard crew members.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
I'm not a blind follower of Zelensky, I just believe in the people of Ukraine. They have tons of propaganda coming out, but when it comes to actual statements regarding the war itself, they have a better resume than people like Lavrov who have made statements such as " We will not invade Ukraine" days before sending 200k soldiers into foreign territory.As if Zelensky is any better, your bias blinds you.
Just as it did when the Poland situation happened, and you were so convinced Zelensky was telling the truth…if he lied about that, what else did Zelensky and his administration lie about?
You probably also believe the Ukrainian numbers that ****inator likes to post ITT from the official Ukrainian MOD about Russia's death toll...
Just as it did when the Poland situation happened, and you were so convinced Zelensky was telling the truth…if he lied about that, what else did Zelensky and his administration lie about?
You probably also believe the Ukrainian numbers that ****inator likes to post ITT from the official Ukrainian MOD about Russia's death toll...
And yes, I do believe Russia has suffered 100k KIA. U mad?
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
dude shut the fuk up. Lavrov and Poots made comments like "Russia has not invaded Ukraine and will not invade any other country — Lavrov"I followed plenty of conflicts not just this one. I have seen the reports from UK, USA and Russia. The Russians were by and far the most truthful.
Just look at the Syria war. For a long time everyone was wondering how ISIS was being funded. The Americans and brits acted like they didn't know and it was a big mystery.
The Russians highlighted how they were being funded, from which plants and which nations were collaborating them. They then destroyed all of their funding infrastructure.
Just look at the Syria war. For a long time everyone was wondering how ISIS was being funded. The Americans and brits acted like they didn't know and it was a big mystery.
The Russians highlighted how they were being funded, from which plants and which nations were collaborating them. They then destroyed all of their funding infrastructure.
https://tass.com/politics/1419745
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
LOL another chalup meltdowndude shut the fuk up. Lavrov and Poots made comments like "Russia has not invaded Ukraine and will not invade any other country — Lavrov"
https://tass.com/politics/1419745
https://tass.com/politics/1419745
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Sad video. Some poor Russian soldiers targetted as they sleep. You can see in their laast moments as they hug and bleed out.
This just goes to show you, why the US and it's power games are evil.
Sad video. Some poor Russian soldiers targetted as they sleep. You can see in their laast moments as they hug and bleed out.
This just goes to show you, why the US and it's power games are evil.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Ukraine was the aggressor. They had a CIA sponsored revolution and then subjugated the Russian people of Eastern Ukraine.dude shut the fuk up. Lavrov and Poots made comments like "Russia has not invaded Ukraine and will not invade any other country — Lavrov"
https://tass.com/politics/1419745
https://tass.com/politics/1419745
Russia is their saviour and protecting them from subjugation from neo nazi Ukranine battalions.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
You were just bragging about durka drones striking civilians then you want to hold a pity party for Russian soldiers? Your moral compass is fukked boyo.https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...t=share_button
Sad video. Some poor Russian soldiers targetted as they sleep. You can see in their laast moments as they hug and bleed out.
This just goes to show you, why the US and it's power games are evil.
Sad video. Some poor Russian soldiers targetted as they sleep. You can see in their laast moments as they hug and bleed out.
This just goes to show you, why the US and it's power games are evil.
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Chalup has a meltdown everytime the Ucrainian Nazi in-laws makes a request for $$/wire transfer
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Not once have I ever cheered death. I support Ukraine. I think their leadership has screwed them over.You were just bragging about durka drones striking civilians then you want to hold a pity party for Russian soldiers? Your moral compass is fukked boyo.
Whenever in the history fo war ahve they sent all the women and children away to foreign countries? you think they'll ever return?
Zelensky has destroyed Ukraine. I hope he is captured and executed.
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos⏩
Such is life when you mail order a bride from Ukraine...ayyLMAOChalup has a meltdown everytime the Ucrainian Nazi in-laws makes a request for $$/wire transfer
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Subsequently he then comes raging on this thread hoping for a quick 'NATO' victory with the hopes that he then won't need to make anymore payments to the in-lawsSuch is life when you mail order a bride from Ukraine...ayyLMAO
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Something we can definitely agree on.Not once have I ever cheered death. I support Ukraine. I think their leadership has screwed them over.
Whenever in the history fo war ahve they sent all the women and children away to foreign countries? you think they'll ever return?
Zelensky has destroyed Ukraine.I hope he is captured and executed.
Whenever in the history fo war ahve they sent all the women and children away to foreign countries? you think they'll ever return?
Zelensky has destroyed Ukraine.I hope he is captured and executed.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
WTF are you talking about? Zelensky is a true patriot, he has listened to his people. Regardless of how you feel about his personal life, he was an extremely wealthy man and ran solely on making Ukraine better. He ALMOST fukked Ukraine at the beginning of the war but his people told him they are ready to fight and die for their land and heritage. The people have not let him down, and he has not let the people down. No idea wtf you are talking about regarding kids and women. It's Russians who displaced women and kids in occupied cities, moving them DEEP into Russia while in return moving Russians into Ukranian territory. Sick stuff.Not once have I ever cheered death. I support Ukraine. I think their leadership has screwed them over.
Whenever in the history fo war ahve they sent all the women and children away to foreign countries? you think they'll ever return?
Zelensky has destroyed Ukraine. I hope he is captured and executed.
Whenever in the history fo war ahve they sent all the women and children away to foreign countries? you think they'll ever return?
Zelensky has destroyed Ukraine. I hope he is captured and executed.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
tell us about the subjugation?then subjugated the Russian people of Eastern Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
He has literally sent the Ukraine back 30 years. Cities are destroyed and even worse he let all the women and children move to Western Europe.WTF are you talking about? Zelensky is a true patriot, he has listened to his people. Regardless of how you feel about his personal life, he was an extremely wealthy man and ran solely on making Ukraine better. He ALMOST fukked Ukraine at the beginning of the war but his people told him they are ready to fight and die for their land and heritage. The people have not let him down, and he has not let the people down. No idea wtf you are talking about regarding kids and women. It's Russians who displaced women and kids in occupied cities, moving them DEEP into Russia while in return moving Russians into Ukranian territory. Sick stuff.
Do you think a Ukranian woman will leave the UK or Germany to live in a war torn country with no heating, electricity and has been smashed to pieces. They're not coming back.
So not only will Ukraine lose hundreds of thousands of their best men. They will lose millions of their young women.
All of this is to resist Russia, but I can assure you Russia wont lose. They will annex all of the territories they want. So the loss was for absolutely nothing.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
You have never met a Ukranian woman obviously. Tens of thousands will come back, if for no other reason than to take care of their babushka's. Do you know how much opportunity awaits hungry Ukrainians to rebuild their Country once this war is over? Do you know how much drive they have to be successful in places like the UK and America? When they realize they can move back to their home Country AND make the same amount of money as out of Country, they will come back in droves. Ukraine will catapult to being a first world Country strictly on the opportunities that await rebuilding it infrastructure wise, and the strength of their military if still intact after this war.He has literally sent the Ukraine back 30 years. Cities are destroyed and even worse he let all the women and children move to Western Europe.
Do you think a Ukranian woman will leave the UK or Germany to live in a war torn country with no heating, electricity and has been smashed to pieces. They're not coming back.
So not only will Ukraine lose hundreds of thousands of their best men. They will lose millions of their young women.
All of this is to resist Russia, but I can assure you Russia wont lose. They will annex all of the territories they want. So the loss was for absolutely nothing.
Do you think a Ukranian woman will leave the UK or Germany to live in a war torn country with no heating, electricity and has been smashed to pieces. They're not coming back.
So not only will Ukraine lose hundreds of thousands of their best men. They will lose millions of their young women.
All of this is to resist Russia, but I can assure you Russia wont lose. They will annex all of the territories they want. So the loss was for absolutely nothing.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
You're compeltely delusional.You have never met a Ukranian woman obviously. Tens of thousands will come back, if for no other reason than to take care of their babushka's. Do you know how much opportunity awaits hungry Ukrainians to rebuild their Country once this war is over? Do you know how much drive they have to be successful in places like the UK and America? When they realize they can move back to their home Country AND make the same amount of money as out of Country, they will come back in droves. Ukraine will catapult to being a first world Country strictly on the opportunities that await rebuilding it infrastructure wise, and the strength of their military if still intact after this war.
Ukraine is world famous for being a place where you can find a wife, because the standard of living was sub-par and this was before a major war.
When I was single I changed my tinder to Ukraine and I had literally hundreds of girls interested in me and to move to the UK.
You really think they will want to live there when Ukraine is war torn?
I have no diea where you get the Ukraine will become first world and have higher salaries than the West thing. I think you've gone mad.
Ukraine is going to spend atleast twenty years being a terrible horrible palce to live, regardless of who wins.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
I didn't say higher salaries than the west, I said comparable. And yes, I do.You're compeltely delusional.
Ukraine is world famous for being a place where you can find a wife, because the standard of living was sub-par and this was before a major war.
When I was single I changed my tinder to Ukraine and I had literally hundreds of girls interested in me and to move to the UK.
You really think they will want to live there when Ukraine is war torn?
I have no diea where you get the Ukraine will become first world and have higher salaries than the West thing. I think you've gone mad.
Ukraine is going to spend atleast twenty years being a terrible horrible palce to live, regardless of who wins.
Ukraine is world famous for being a place where you can find a wife, because the standard of living was sub-par and this was before a major war.
When I was single I changed my tinder to Ukraine and I had literally hundreds of girls interested in me and to move to the UK.
You really think they will want to live there when Ukraine is war torn?
I have no diea where you get the Ukraine will become first world and have higher salaries than the West thing. I think you've gone mad.
Ukraine is going to spend atleast twenty years being a terrible horrible palce to live, regardless of who wins.
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