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post 1673692983 12-28-2022, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
Thats the key point. Any war will be foguht by Iranian territory.

The US would have to send their fifth fleet to project the pwoer they need to fight Iran. If the fifth fleet can be succesfully attacked, the US would bot have option to attack Iran. Well not any that are not as if not more vulnerable.

The first days of the Iraq war were twenty years ago. Iran has sophisticated AD and will have much more shrotly. The planes the US used for shock and awe will be shot down. Air supremacy is becoming a thing of the past.

You never answered my question, why do you suck the US's dick so much? This thread is full of non-US, but US dick suckers. We got the Albanian-Canadian with five cars and now the Brit all LARPing as Americans.

Don't you feel embarrased?
I think some of the stuff the US has done e.g. Iraq is ****ed up. But that there are worse evils on this planet.

I am no strategist but I would assume the US would use F-22, F-35 and Tomahawks to take out critical targets initially until there was sufficient confidence to let the B-1, B-2 etc come in and to bring a carrier within range. The tempo would be entirely dictated by the US, and they can pick and choose which tune they want to play. Iran could potentially try to target US bases in UAE, Oman etc but they'd likely have to get through Aegis and THAAD which seems doubtful.

US ain't just going to sail a carrier up to Iran lmao. Even if they did, it'd be a decent fight considering the competency of a US carrier groups anti-air abilities. I'd be a good watch.
post 1673693853 12-28-2022, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Albanian-italian-canadian. But yes i do identify as an albanian.


Bro anyone with more than 10iq can see how much of an idiot youre being with this cope lmao… iran would get its literal shiet rammed up its anus and through its mouth by any of the major nato power. I know its hard to accept that since youre iranian, but what britishbrah above you said is correct.


Accept reality.
Ok, but you think Ukraine can beat Russia. A military world leader that exists directly on the border.

So if you think i'm a retard, then you're admitting you're even more of one.
post 1673695213 12-28-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By infinit
I think some of the stuff the US has done e.g. Iraq is ****ed up. But that there are worse evils on this planet.

I am no strategist but I would assume the US would use F-22, F-35 and Tomahawks to take out critical targets initially until there was sufficient confidence to let the B-1, B-2 etc come in and to bring a carrier within range. The tempo would be entirely dictated by the US, and they can pick and choose which tune they want to play. Iran could potentially try to target US bases in UAE, Oman etc but they'd likely have to get through Aegis and THAAD which seems doubtful.

US ain't just going to sail a carrier up to Iran lmao. Even if they did, it'd be a decent fight considering the competency of a US carrier groups anti-air abilities. I'd be a good watch.
lol nah. Someone has been listening to too many American fairytales. Air supremacy is a thing of the past, something which the US would find out quickly.

It's not clear to me where the US would take these aircraft off from, which wouldn't then be targetted.

What in most reality would happen ios that the US is surprised that they;re not fighting Iraq or Afghanistan and as soon as any number of losses mount up, the political fall out is too great and they withdraw.

The US is not a competent military, it's a make work programme. In recent history they have lost more than they ahve won.

They lost in Afghanistan.
Lost in Iraq.
ISIS made them run with their tails between their legs.

The American military is incompetent.
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He does NOT care about your Western air defense systems, he does NOT care about a bunch of soldiers frantically firing their rifles at him, the brave little Persian lawnmower WILL finish the job, even with a hole in his wing.



Doritos of peace, ayyLMAO



No peace plan for Ukraine can exist if it does not take into account the entry into Russia of four new regions — the Kremlin.

RIP, I guess those peace talks Ukrops wanted in Feb 2023 will not happen.
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post 1673699153 12-28-2022, 06:25 PM
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Bakhmut a straight up meatgrinder for Ukrainian soldiers. Brutal.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
He does NOT care about your Western air defense systems, he does NOT care about a bunch of soldiers frantically firing their rifles at him, the brave little Persian lawnmower WILL finish the job, even with a hole in his wing.




Doritos of peace, ayyLMAO
Inspiring.

Glad to see Iranian equipment enabling Russia to free itself from the chains of the US.

Russians a truly remarkable culture being attacked by Americans the lowest base form of man.
post 1673702963 12-28-2022, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
I see vatniks are preparing the cope for a Bakhmut defeat although ruskies threw everything they had on it for 4+ months and according to vatniks half of ukraine died there and the occupation of Bakhmut would mark a turning point in the war.

Now it's "uuuhh two poor Wagner platoons with rusky AKs and no hand grenades had to fight 47 brigades, 50 tank bataillons and the entire combined force of NATO"
The many units are there or not?

No one is talking about Wagner capability besides you. I've only touched on their strategy which needs fewer men.

I told the entire thread the unit count was rising when it hit high 20s. There is an absolute manpower rush to the city that is undeniable.

Why don't you address the point?

It's very odd what you cowards do. Act like a man, do the grown-up thing, and stop calling names and have a conversation.

You're cheerleading, not paying attention to what is actually happening. You have a once in a lifetime to observe history, why not objectively take it in?
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post 1673703903 12-28-2022, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted By 647584857
LMAO, the US already took out Iran's top general a few years ago and Iran didn't do chit like the cucks they are.
They actually fired a dozen, maybe two Fateh-110 and destroying Asad/Erbil airbase in response as well as firing more this past March in proximity to a US consulate.

None were intercepted by Patriots.

Sure we'd wipe the floor with them but we're stretched thin. They are a country that we'll come to head with in the near future.
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post 1673704153 12-28-2022, 08:02 PM
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The scale of the AFU grouping thrown to hold Bakhmut

In total, assault detachments of PMC “Wagner” are opposed by various units from the composition of:

▪️27 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and territorial defense;
▪️5 separate battalions; combined

Detachment of special operations forces;
▪️️ nationalist regiment, “Azov”.

Due to heavy losses, units on the line of contact in the areas of Kleshcheevka, Podgorodnoe, Opytnoe, eastern and southeastern regions of Bakhmut are constantly rotated.

Enormous forces have been allocated to contain the musicians.
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post 1673704493 12-28-2022, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah
I see vatniks are preparing the cope for a Bakhmut defeat although ruskies threw everything they had on it for 4+ months and according to vatniks half of ukraine died there and the occupation of Bakhmut would mark a turning point in the war.

Now it's "uuuhh two poor Wagner platoons with rusky AKs and no hand grenades had to fight 47 brigades, 50 tank bataillons and the entire combined force of NATO"
lol what

Russia isn't losing Bakhmut. They're going to keep killing nazis at 1k/day as long as Ukraine keeps ordering them to get vaporized by Russian artillery. Ukraine's only answer to this is to keep pumping more meat into the grinder and you think that means Russia is losing. Hilarious
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post 1673704843 12-28-2022, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator


Holy fck at this crazy cope vatnik bro, do you even economy/10?
Subpar.

Pick a point under the entire economic umbrella to discuss. So far as I see it, Russia has not collapsed and is producing materiel at wartime scale.

3.3% contraction when we aimed for 13%

Seems kind of silly to then go after the Ural market with a price cap followed by a complete cut off, doesn't it?

Japan already said, no thanks G7.

Germany would have gotten some sweet relief too if they still has NS1/2 Contracts tied to it.

Be specific in your responses, Nick Cage cannot help you.
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post 1673704973 12-28-2022, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel


The scale of the AFU grouping thrown to hold Bakhmut

In total, assault detachments of PMC “Wagner” are opposed by various units from the composition of:

▪️27 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and territorial defense;
▪️5 separate battalions; combined

Detachment of special operations forces;
▪️️ nationalist regiment, “Azov”.

Due to heavy losses, units on the line of contact in the areas of Kleshcheevka, Podgorodnoe, Opytnoe, eastern and southeastern regions of Bakhmut are constantly rotated.

Enormous forces have been allocated to contain the musicians.
I wonder if Russian propagandists read my posts?

<-- Trendsetter (or actually pays attention)
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post 1673706223 12-28-2022, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop
I wonder if Russian propagandists read my posts?

<-- Trendsetter (or actually pays attention)
Putin steals my lines. Solovyov must be a miscer.


(not srs lmao)
post 1673708783 12-28-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Critical thinking says the guy who think iran can beat usa in a war..

None of you idiots know what youre talking about lol.
Guys wearing sandals and running Cold War AKs sent the US packing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Might want to re-think your Call of Duty degree in warfare there hardcharger.
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post 1673708953 12-28-2022, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
Didn’t I say that tons of money would flow into Ukraine to rebuild it and plenty of jobs will be around to make good money? Potentially catipulting Ukraine to first world status?
Yes. Mail order brides like your wife will convince simps like you to continually pay for their families back home.

And her pimps as well.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Didn’t I say that tons of money would flow into Ukraine to rebuild it and plenty of jobs will be around to make good money? Potentially catipulting Ukraine to first world status?
The broken window fallacy would like a word
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
The broken window fallacy would like a word


Applies perfectly to every hawk who touts war as a solution to economic problems.
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Weird to see footage Kyiv in the middle of a war, people just strolling around shopping and eating at restaurants like everything is normal.

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LMAO gotta love Russian humor.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russ...rd-rings-jokes



They kept calling Russians Orcs and calling Russia Mordor. So, in true Russian style, Putin made 9 gold rings for the leaders of former USSR states lol. Based af.
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The most useless rocket attack from Russia right now

Apparently we've gotten a lot of air defense systems in last 2 weeks

16/16 missiles/rockets shot down in Kyiv, no incoming.

15/15 in Zhytomyr region.
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Russia is out of Kalibr missiles.
80% of everything launched in the last two months is kh-101 from the strategic bombers.Calibers are really rarely used.


BasedBagel, At least 2 of these brigades on this pic are well known to me and they are not in the Bachmut direction at that moment. One of them is in Avdeevka, the second has been on rotation/vacation since mid-November.
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Whats the import cost on one of those right now?
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The fact that orcs wrote a book sympathising with the orcs is pretty funny


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer



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Originally Posted By DSTEE
The fact that orcs wrote a book sympathising with the orcs is pretty funny


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer



That is amazing. Will read.
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Originally Posted By dusky99
Weird to see footage Kyiv in the middle of a war, people just strolling around shopping and eating at restaurants like everything is normal.

anything for likes and clicks, right? simp
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Originally Posted By Hussar1
Guys wearing sandals and running Cold War AKs sent the US packing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Might want to re-think your Call of Duty degree in warfare there hardcharger.
No they didn’t. But please keep larping as an American.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble
No they didn’t. But please keep larping as an American.
You're not even an American. You're from fuking Hungary lmao.
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the ukraine is receiving another batch of magically conjured doritos and cruise missiles! everybody point and laugh
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel
You're not even an American. You're from fuking Hungary lmao.
...yes? I'm not the one pretending to be an American. Try to keep up, dimwit.
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Originally Posted By greenleaf
The gravy train keeps rolling...




Zelenskyy, BlackRock CEO Fink agree to coordinate Ukraine investment

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and BlackRock
CEO Larry Fink agreed to coordinate investment in rebuilding Ukraine, Kyiv announced Wednesday following a meeting between the two men.

A readout from the Ukrainian president’s official website said Zelenskyy and Fink had “agreed to focus in the near term on coordinating the efforts of all potential investors and participants in the reconstruction of our country, channelling investment into the most relevant and impactful sectors of the Ukrainian economy.”

BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory and the Ukrainian Ministry of Economy signed a memorandum of understanding in November, after Fink and Zelenskyy met in September to discuss driving public and private investments into Ukraine to rebuild the country after Russia’s highly destructive invasion.

BlackRock, one of the world’s largest investment managers, has been providing “advisory support for designing an investment framework, with a goal of creating opportunities for both public and private investors to participate in the future reconstruction and recovery of the Ukrainian economy,” the company said in a statement last month. BlackRock had no further statement at this stage.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/zele...nvestment.html
Originally Posted By dusky99
Zelensky, BlackRock CEO agree to coordinate efforts to rebuild Ukraine

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-eco...d-ukraine.html
Not really surprising.

Just as there was a load of money to be made in the administrative mess that was Iraq, there's plenty to be made cleaning up the mess that is Ukraine.

I don't think anyone is surprised by this news, Ukicels or Ruskies--this is one aspect that everyone can agree on is corrupt to the core.
Originally Posted By dusky99
Batsh/t crazy speech to the Putinjugend

He's definitely not wrong. Ukraine militarily was defeated early on, even with the bracing of this eventual invasion as it was expected by US/"Western" intel. No one doubts that this is a NATO fight against Russia now, via Ukraine as the proxy, and if it were not for NATO weapons and funds pouring into Ukraine, this would have been over ages ago.
Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel


Applies perfectly to every hawk who touts war as a solution to economic problems.
The average person is too stupid to make this connection, and will see the rebuilding as an overall win, and not question the fact that you are fixing something that broke...net zero, effectively.

It's a shame for Ukrainians, on top of having their homeland attacked, family and countrymen killed, their country will be silently sold to the highest bidder, and most involved will grab what they can in this fire sale.
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