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post 1673810353 12-30-2022, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By BlueberryBoysEx⏩
IIFYM is bs, your body overtime creates "set weights" based on insulin response, blood sugar levels, and hormones. People like to go CAL IN VS CAL OUT IS ALL THAT MATTERS! But the body is an incredibly complicated set of systems overlapping and influencing one another.

Don't get me wrong, cals in vs cals out is a HUGE part of it, probably the most important part, but there are other factors at play for sure regarding meal timing, inflammation and hormone response, insulin response etc.

cope

Meal timing is absolute cope. I used to work long hours with short breaks and down circa 3000 cals in an hour and it never affected my progress
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
We love you RF, but clearly fat loss is your Achille's Heel.

Weight lossis CICO, pretty much straight 100%. The thing of it is: Losing weight is fuking retardedly simple and anyone can do it; Optimizing that weight loss, however, that can get complicated.

Barring PEDS: Nobody loses straight fat. So, what is the ratio of lean mass to fat that you drop when you do the easy part of dropping calories to lose weight?

Now you get into the conversation about hormones, sleep, training, macros, adequate fats (which when you're below maintenance is very fuking important) and all the other important chit that CICO zealots without Avis do not seem to grasp. And you want to talk about the individual, because Porky sitting at 25%BF is not the same guy as someone leaner than the OP and sitting at 13% or lower, trying to cut those last few lbs and hitting constant walls, having their dicks stop working or running out of energy constantly with cravings b/c they aren't maximizing their diets and just think it's about adding or dropping more calories.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
Ive posted my gf a ton of times. I just wanted misc input on this chit, surprised people are agreeing with her lol
Well she is right, and you are right. Hormones do play a huge part, metabolic damage plays a part in how many calories you may be able to get away with. If she is obese she probably does have both a hormone issue and metabolic damage. So yes, maybe you who has a great metabolism and never had much issue wont have an issue, but she will have to restrict more then you may have to.
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how do you expect average people to know and be aware how lose fat when even on the misc (a bodybuilding website) we cant agree on the proper formula and know-how in order to lose fat
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
Well she is right, and you are right. Hormones do play a huge part, metabolic damage plays a part in how many calories you may be able to get away with. If she is obese she probably does have both a hormone issue and metabolic damage. So yes, maybe you who has a great metabolism and never had much issue wont have an issue, but she will have to restrict more then you may have to.
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Originally Posted By MisterJustice⏩
how do you expect average people to know and be aware how lose fat when even on the misc (a bodybuilding website) we cant agree on the proper formula and know-how in order to lose fat
lol. No wonder these influencers are making so much money spreading a bunch of bullchit that people eat up
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
I can’t believe I’m replying to this


FAT LOSS is cals in Vs cals out. So no, I’m not going back on anything

protein is relevant in the scope of people on here because we lift and protein = muscle mass. But she doesn’t lift, so she doesn’t have to worry about that

Stop being a smart ass. This is my last reply to you
tell your gf to eat a bunch of corn and track her calories. Then observe all the corn in her ****s. But you added that as part of the "calories in" when she clearly didnt digest it. Thus your equation is wrong.
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
My gf looks prepubescent but she’s legal, feelsgoodman
WTF? Enter..... Chris Hansen
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
you know me, you always say im p3do even though I constantly explain to you smooth brains being attracted to a post pubescent female is not p3dofilia

And trust me I have chit genetics, I’ve trained with enough people to see the variations in different genetics. I just train balls to the wall and put 100% in, most people train like pussies

Listen to that dustinthehuss post, just reading her post you can tell she has absolutely 0 will power and trains like a dumb sloot. But she’ll blame it on some other variable like her genetics for her poverty build, JFL. Misc is full of men with a similar coping mindset
oh, kinda makes sense, you look darker than I thought, lol usually your alts are related to inside or mane. What race are you? I'm part Japanese and white trash. I agree with most of what you're saying, brb i'd im only obese because of stress, lack of sleep etc, not because I eat everything I can.
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This guy is such a fraud because the content of his posts are straight 4chan incel which doesn't correlate at all with the pictures he posted in here of a normal looking non-incel, then he posts about having a girl who looks like she is PRE pubescent who apparently is also a whale? So she looks like a fat 10 year old? I'm out boys, keep toasting the dumbest roll bread.
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Originally Posted By ThePD⏩
Well she is right, and you are right. Hormones do play a huge part, metabolic damage plays a part in how many calories you may be able to get away with. If she is obese she probably does have both a hormone issue and metabolic damage. So yes, maybe you who has a great metabolism and never had much issue wont have an issue, but she will have to restrict more then you may have to.
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CICO is king, but things like sleep, hormones, etc can push the needle either way in terms of calories burnt/retained due to metabolism etc.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
oh, kinda makes sense, you look darker than I thought, lol usually your alts are related to inside or mane. What race are you? I'm part Japanese and white trash. I agree with most of what you're saying, brb i'd im only obese because of stress, lack of sleep etc, not because I eat everything I can.
Yeah I used to rock mane consistently but I had to stop because I stuck out like a sore thumb which it made it too easy for mods to ban my alts

I’m a BBC but I see tons of BBCs that mog me (that I believe are natty). I’m bottom of the barrel genetic bbc trash. I’ve trained with countless BBCs and there used to be one dude that just had me in awe, dude barely even tried but would throw up crazy weights (at the time) and just had a crazy physique. I’m way stronger than him now but only because I was calculated and trained hard, as the saying goes, Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. But I’ll always consider him a strong/jacked freak of nature.

Yeah, I think if 99% if people just stuck to the basics and not overcomplicate/overthink chit they’d be far better off. People will blame their lack of progress on some BS variable when they know they didn’t give it 100%. I started off at 150-155lbs and i struggled to gain weight for a VERY long time, I could have coped and said (its muh genetics, hard gainer etc) but I just trained hard and ate more. Now I’m circa 200lbs lean.

I’m telling you all these people you hear that struggle with this chit are just full of chit and don’t try hard enough
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Originally Posted By BlueberryBoysEx⏩
This guy is such a fraud because the content of his posts are straight 4chan incel which doesn't correlate at all with the pictures he posted in here of a normal looking non-incel, then he posts about having a girl who looks like she is PRE pubescent who apparently is also a whale? So she looks like a fat 10 year old? I'm out boys, keep toasting the dumbest roll bread.
I said her sister is fat. Her sister is asking my GF for advice on how to lose fat
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Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
I said her sister is fat. Her sister is asking my GF for advice on how to lose fat
Simple calorie deficit, (track calorie intake accordingly) and throw in some exercise.

Keep it simple.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Simple calorie deficit, (track calorie intake accordingly) and throw in some exercise.

Keep it simple.
kimm, do you believe in "metabolic damage"
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Simple calorie deficit, (track calorie intake accordingly) and throw in some exercise.

Keep it simple.
thank you kimm! Based


I’m gonna try get my GF to start eating gluten again, she’s been brainwashed to think it’s gonna make her feel bloated and get fat
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Simple calorie deficit, (track calorie intake accordingly) and throw in some exercise.

Keep it simple.
Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
kimm, do you believe in "metabolic damage"
If the peedo Pajeet's girl is an estimated 13-18 years old, her sister is probably mid-20s tops, so while people can (and do) fuk up their metabolisms or simply get old, it's probably not a major factor here.

And, while the OP is a screwhead and wrong, the simple fatloss advice to someone to eat less and exercise *is* actually not a bad thing. Pretty sure most of the people here shaking their heads at the OP won't disagree, either.

Some mid-20s girl who wants to drop from 160-180 to under 150 probably doesn't need to get too technical to make a fairly easy goal and will do pretty good to just eat less and get a gym membership. Worst case, the simple advice works fine at first and once she's cruising along and maybe slowing progress or hitting a fatloss wall, then you add in more detailed advice to fine tune things.
Originally Posted By CreigDavid⏩
thank you kimm! Based

I’m gonna try get my GF to start eating gluten again, she’s been brainwashed to think it’s gonna make her feel bloated and get fat
Hopefully once she graduates High School she dumps your ass where it belongs. Who the fuk cares whether she eats gluten or not? I don't think it's a major problem for fat loss but there are no benefits to be had from having gluten in your diet and most people eat way too much of it and/or have all kinds of inflammation/digestion problems likely stemming from all the worthless gluten in our diets. If she's fine without it, keep it that way.
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Calories in and calories out are not constant. The way your body deals with them varies greatly depending on age, genetics, activity level, hormones and so on as she said. And who was micronutrients?

Why don't you test it out and just eat exactly maintenance calories worth of junk food OP?
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
kimm, do you believe in "metabolic damage"
I have a hard time swallowing the metabolic damage thing. I spent over a decade consistently dieting down for over 30 shows and numerous shoots. My metabolism was never damaged not even once...
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
I have a hard swallowing the metabolic damage thing. I spent over a decade consistently dieting down for over 30 shows and numerous shoots. My metabolism was never damaged not even once...
I'd say it has a lot more to do with sedentary people eating surplus cals from junk food sources. You're fit and constantly training, right? Cutting calories back for a show, even if the last couple weeks are pretty drastic, you probably bounce back in days.

However, Fukhead McSlurpie, some spare tire built like a bowling pin who gets winded walking up two flights of stairs has probably fuked their metabolism a lot. I look at chit like the growing obesity rate and the more and more cases of Type 2 diabetes -- THAT is metabolic damage. Not a bodybuilding chick who dehydrates and cuts down to single digit BF% before a show a few times a year.
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
I have a hard time swallowing the metabolic damage thing. I spent over a decade consistently dieting down for over 30 shows and numerous shoots. My metabolism was never damaged not even once...
so it’s all cope as I’ve been saying the entire thread? Omg no way.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
If the peedo Pajeet's girl is an estimated 13-18 years old, her sister is probably mid-20s tops, so while people can (and do) fuk up their metabolisms or simply get old, it's probably not a major factor here.

And, while the OP is a screwhead and wrong, the simple fatloss advice to someone to eat less and exercise *is* actually not a bad thing. Pretty sure most of the people here shaking their heads at the OP won't disagree, either.

Some mid-20s girl who wants to drop from 160-180 to under 150 probably doesn't need to get too technical to make a fairly easy goal and will do pretty good to just eat less and get a gym membership. Worst case, the simple advice works fine at first and once she's cruising along and maybe slowing progress or hitting a fatloss wall, then you add in more detailed advice to fine tune things.

Hopefully once she graduates High School she dumps your ass where it belongs. Who the fuk cares whether she eats gluten or not? I don't think it's a major problem for fat loss but there are no benefits to be had from having gluten in your diet and most people eat way too much of it and/or have all kinds of inflammation/digestion problems likely stemming from all the worthless gluten in our diets. If she's fine without it, keep it that way.
because when I order chit she doesn’t wanna eat it which is annoying Af, she’ll be just sat there munching on some gluten free food she doesn’t even like.

And I said she is legal but LOOKS young, she’s in her late 20s but people always comment on her youthful looks. I’ll leave her once the glow fades and replace her with an actual teen, but she is a good girl
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Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
Calories in and calories out are not constant. The way your body deals with them varies greatly depending on age, genetics, activity level, hormones and so on as she said. And who was micronutrients?

Why don't you test it out and just eat exactly maintenance calories worth of junk food OP?
I do still eat chit. My GF always wonders how I look the way I do with my diet, I always tell her just build some fukin muscle mass, it’s not rocket science

If you train hard and eat McDonald’s, kfc etc and actually get enough protein and stay within a smart calorie range, you’re still gonna look decent

I’ve had this approach for years and it’s never failed me. I eat whatever I want. The only reason I DONT constantly eat chit is because diet plays a role in skin care, and I’m a skincare ****. If I didn’t care about skincare I’d be eating McDonald’s and pizza everyday
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
I have a hard time swallowing the metabolic damage thing. I spent over a decade consistently dieting down for over 30 shows and numerous shoots. My metabolism was never damaged not even once...
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I'd say it has a lot more to do with sedentary people eating surplus cals from junk food sources. You're fit and constantly training, right? Cutting calories back for a show, even if the last couple weeks are pretty drastic, you probably bounce back in days.

However, Fukhead McSlurpie, some spare tire built like a bowling pin who gets winded walking up two flights of stairs has probably fuked their metabolism a lot. I look at chit like the growing obesity rate and the more and more cases of Type 2 diabetes -- THAT is metabolic damage. Not a bodybuilding chick who dehydrates and cuts down to single digit BF% before a show a few times a year.
Overweight people are out of shape, need to move more and stay active. If they can do this their metabolism will work just like every other human on the planet. I hear most of this, "I ruined my metabolism" (and I'm sure you've heard this too) by women who claim they've been yo yo dieting for years and years and it completely ruined their metabolisms, blah, blah, blah...
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Overweight people are out of shape, need to move more and stay active. If they can do this their metabolism will work just like every other human on the planet. I hear most of this, "I ruined my metabolism" (and I'm sure you've heard this too) by women who claim they've been yo yo dieting for years and years and it completely ruined their metabolisms, blah, blah, blah...
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Overweight people are out of shape, need to move more and stay active. If they can do this their metabolism will work just like every other human on the planet. I hear most of this, "I ruined my metabolism" (and I'm sure you've heard this too) by women who claim they've been yo yo dieting for years and years and it completely ruined their metabolisms, blah, blah, blah...
We don't disagree and I get your point about women making obvious excuses, but at the same time, a long-term sedentary lifestyle coupled w/ processed junk diet, it's not just the fatness but how/where it's stored.

Someone whose internal organs are all fatty, who is pre-diabetic or diabetic, that is metabolic damage. Yes, the cure is blatantly obvious -- and you stated it, but that sick person does not have the same robust metabolism as a normal person.

You're talking about it as the excuse people throw around to avoid dieting or to explain why theirs failed -- and that generally is bunk. I fast for days at a time and, while it's been awhile, I've been on caloric deficits for up to 2-3 months at a time. I don't buy "I ruined my metabolism" any more than you do, in that sense.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
We don't disagree and I get your point about women making obvious excuses, but at the same time, a long-term sedentary lifestyle coupled w/ processed junk diet, it's not just the fatness but how/where it's stored.

Someone whose internal organs are all fatty, who is pre-diabetic or diabetic, that is metabolic damage. Yes, the cure is blatantly obvious -- and you stated it, but that sick person does not have the same robust metabolism as a normal person.

You're talking about it as the excuse people throw around to avoid dieting or to explain why theirs failed -- and that generally is bunk. I fast for days at a time and, while it's been awhile, I've been on caloric deficits for up to 2-3 months at a time. I don't buy "I ruined my metabolism" any more than you do, in that sense.
This guy is full of it lmao

Keep coping dorks
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Just fkn lol @ CICOcels.

Saying weight loss or gain is due to calories in vs calories out is like saying that soccer is just scoring more goals than you let in. It's true as a pointless statement of the obvious, but utterly irrelevant for someone trying to coach a winning soccer team. It's like a coach saying he won't put any thought into player recruitment, fitness and conditioning, team selection, positions, skill training, etc, because soccer is just goals scored vs goals let in so none of those things matter.

They question is WHY do some people live their lives eating the same calories as they exert without ever feeling hungry ever in their lives, while other people are fat and gaining weight but feel desperately hungry if they are in a CICO balance even briefly. That is to do with the content of the diet, state of your gut biota, timing of eating, metabolic training, types of exercise, all sorts fo things.
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I think people are starting to go all over the place in this thread with things that don't matter at this point.

You have a fat girl that needs to lose weight/fat. Most people who decide they want to try to lose weight try to clean up their diet first. I do believe they try to make healthier choices and they do this before they even figure out what kind of calorie intake they need.

I a firm believer you need to keep it simple...let's not over complicate things. Figure out your deficit, set your protein amount and divide your remaining calories the way you see fit. Move your body more by throwing in some exercise or some type of activity...something that has you moving. Let your diet do the work.

If you get to a point where you want to take things to a higher level, that's when you start fine tuning and playing around with other things.
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