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Thread: Russia vs Ukraine Thread VII- Frozen mud pie edition: Come meet the bots and shills

post 1673872763 12-31-2022, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Yes durka bro and now tell us how high those oil prices are now, lol.
Ok kraut bro, $85 a barrel or 3.5 times the pre war low.

I even changed back to the Oil and Gas industry to cash in.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
It is robust, because they have low sovereign debt and huge natural resources.

It is not like western countries who have very high sovereign debt and rely on services.
Robust = wealth

You can have all the resources in the world but need a market to trade it for wealth. Russia contracted no matter how badly you fap to antiwestern doom pron.
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post 1673872963 12-31-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Yes durka bro and now tell us how high those oil prices are now, lol.
Do you worry, as a man, about your comments?

Things are really volatile in the potential markets. How do you say with certainty they won't triple or double? How do you account for artificial conditions, mainly reserve use as they all come to head eventually

I've laid out what I've thought and why but you don't do that.
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post 1673873233 12-31-2022, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Robust = wealth

You can have all the resources in the world but need a market to trade it for wealth. Russia contracted no matter how badly you fap to antiwestern doom pron.
Ok, when I say robust, i mean it is difficult to break.

They have somethign that everyone wants (and is hard to replace) and they have very low debt.

I do not fap to anti-western doom pron. I always aim for accuracy. Just like when i told that other guy the US wont be replaced as the reserve currency. Which si the truth.

However the US will likely collapse in the future due to internal problems (demographic change, cultural subversion, non funded libailities, sovereign debt etc.).

I am pro-western. I said we shouldn't have started this ridiculous war and we should trade freely with Russia & Iran. Rather than push them into the hands of China. That would benefit the west the most.
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Lol aren't they all?

Ukraine needs to let press in. "OPSEC" is nonsensical. I'd like to understand where my $ is going. I've never seen anything like this before. Russia is literally leading the information space of this war.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩


Lol aren't they all?

Ukraine needs to let press in. "OPSEC" is nonsensical. I'd like to understand where my $ is going. I've never seen anything like this before. Russia is literally leading the information space of this war.
Ukraine doesn't want people to see their nazi chit or war crimes lul.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Ok, when I say robust, i mean it is difficult to break.

They have somethign that everyone wants (and is hard to replace) and they have very low debt.

I do not fap to anti-western doom pron. I always aim for accuracy. Just like when i told that other guy the US wont be replaced as the reserve currency. Which si the truth.

However the US will likely collapse in the future due to internal problems (demographic change, cultural subversion, non funded libailities, sovereign debt etc.).

I am pro-western. I said we shouldn't have started this ridiculous war and we should trade freely with Russia & Iran. Rather than push them into the hands of China. That would benefit the west the most.
All points I covered, and the word is resilient. The US will be fine. We are a remarkably stubborn people that react only when enough is enough. We have the luxury of allowing things to fall apart socially. In actuality large cities control politics but they'll implode eventually
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
https://www.marketwatch.com/investin...countrycode=uk

They did rise significantly.

Over a 3 year period the low was $24.81 for Brent Crude in April 2020.

The high was $122 in May 2022. That is five times more expensive for Brent Crude for the pre-war low, to the during conflict high.

Bro, you don;t have the intellectual horsepower for this discussion, you best stick to the gifs and memes.
So our benchmarks are the lows during a pandemic and the highs during the biggest european war since ww2? True…


Oil and gas markets are already stabilizing. The bump russia got this year from the price increase will not be there in 2023.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
All points I covered, and the word is resilient. The US will be fine. We are a remarkably stubborn people that react only when enough is enough. We have the luxury of allowing things to fall apart socially. In actuality large cities control politics but they'll implode eventually
The future of the US is braziliification.

Highly poroductive regions and massive ghettos.
post 1673874403 12-31-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
So our benchmarks are the lows during a pandemic and the highs during the biggest european war since ww2? True…


Oil and gas markets are already stabilizing. The bump russia got this year from the price increase will not be there in 2023.
I'm not the one saying Oil & Gas is historically cheap. You can't put the ''comparing price to a European war on me'', ****inator said it was cheaper now, not me.

The Oil price will go up. The reason why is because since 2015 the price has been very low, which means there is less investment. Less investment results in a higher oil price down the line. I always say a $75 price ber barrel is sustainable.


Up until this war the Oil price has been significantly lower than the $75/barrel required to keep things steady.

The longer it stays low the greater the price will overshoot the equilibrium (75$/barrel). I doubt it will go as high as $150/barrel, but i could see $120/barrel.
post 1673874553 12-31-2022, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
The future of the US is braziliification.

Highly poroductive regions and massive ghettos.
No. Detroit is the model. It's dispersement.

We're far too wealthy and independent which is why townships will explode with already set ordinances restricting multi-story buildings and footprints allowing anything other than small business and single family homes. It's been taking place for some time.

You only have blue dots amongst red. Those simple rules strengthen the red. Once the population decreases in the blue dots, it's a wrap.
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post 1673874723 12-31-2022, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
I'm not the one saying Oil & Gas is historically cheap. You can't put the ''comparing price to a European war on me'', ****inator said it was cheaper now, not me.

The Oil price will go up. The reason why is because since 2015 the price has been very low, which means there is less investment. Less investment results in a higher oil price down the line. I always say a $75 price ber barrel is sustainable.


Up until this war the Oil price has been significantly lower than the $75/barrel required to keep things steady.

The longer it stays low the greater the price will overshoot the equilibrium (75$/barrel). I doubt it will go as high as $150/barrel, but i could see $120/barrel.
75 to 100 is much more realistic as a stasis but there will be a high range of volatility which I've read could hit a ceiling of 150.

Just clarifying my point from earlier
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post 1673875023 12-31-2022, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
So because of europe having stocked on reserves the global gas price is pre war level? Ok LOL, there are other more important facts that determine the gas price.

Biggest factor for gas going back up is China, they import massive amounts of LNG.
Theres this thing called supply and demand. You should look it up
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post 1673875133 12-31-2022, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
75 to 100 is much more realistic as a stasis but there will be a high range of volatility which I've read could hit a ceiling of 150.

Just clarifying my point from earlier
Yeh it's multi variable:

- At what points does the cost of O&G cause economic downturn in high consumers
- What is the budget of the countries who are the main producers (the cost will reflect the amount of money they need to run their countries and they will limit supply to achieve that)
- What is the cost of extraction versus the oil price
- The O&G investment cycle. At low price per barrel there is little investment, at high price there's a lot of investment. This has historically caused a of price shocks and issues.
- What is the impact of uncoventionals, Americans seem to use shale as a weapon against allies and foes.

I think $75-100/barrel is the most sustainable and shock abating price.

$150/barrel would be the highest price ever and would cause a global downturn. Seems unlikely, but you never know.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
No. Detroit is the model. It's dispersement.

We're far too wealthy and independent which is why townships will explode with already set ordinances restricting multi-story buildings and footprints allowing anything other than small business and single family homes. It's been taking place for some time.

You only have blue dots amongst red. Those simple rules strengthen the red. Once the population decreases in the blue dots, it's a wrap.
So why would the US allowing zoning laws that are designed to help the republicans to win?

Doesn;t the US have majority democrat leadership?

The republicans were very stupid, they should have incorporated hispanics into their messaging. Going after Hispanics was a big mistake and hurt them very badly. Hispanic demographic growth will increase, they are traditionally hard workign and socially conservative. They seem like an ideal voting block for republicans.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
So why would the US allowing zoning laws that are designed to help the republicans to win?

Doesn;t the US have majority democrat leadership?

The republicans were very stupid, they should have incorporated hispanics into their messaging. Going after Hispanics was a big mistake and hurt them very badly. Hispanic demographic growth will increase, they are traditionally hard workign and socially conservative. They seem like an ideal voting block for republicans.
They have already incorporated Hispanics and it has caused pure chaos for democrats as they now vote majority Republican or soon will.

We're a nation of individual states, counties, and city/towns.

Zoning is completely up to that county and city. It cannot be pushed at the federal or state level. Democrats tried to undercut the effort several times with conditional money release to these towns/cities but to no avail. "Drop zoning requirements, get the money you're due"
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
So why would the US allowing zoning laws that are designed to help the republicans to win?

Doesn;t the US have majority democrat leadership?

The republicans were very stupid, they should have incorporated hispanics into their messaging. Going after Hispanics was a big mistake and hurt them very badly. Hispanic demographic growth will increase, they are traditionally hard workign and socially conservative. They seem like an ideal voting block for republicans.
Corruption.

It's slight.

Republicans are generally very tough on undocumented folks coming in from Mexico. This hostility unnerves many latino voters and causes them to vote dem. Historically, they used to vote R. That was back when Reagan gave tons of people amnesty (lol he used the same sleaze tactics the dems are using now).

Anyway, both parties are quasifascist and can suck a chode.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel⏩
Corruption.

It's slight.

Republicans are generally very tough on undocumented folks coming in from Mexico. This hostility unnerves many latino voters and causes them to vote dem. Historically, they used to vote R. That was back when Reagan gave tons of people amnesty (lol he used the same sleaze tactics the dems are using now).

Anyway, both parties are quasifascist and can suck a chode.
It seems the US is destined to become some European / Hispanic Hybrid.

The only question is will thye have a European or Hispanic economy.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
It seems the US is destined to become some European / Hispanic Hybrid.

The only question is will thye have a European or Hispanic economy.
With any luck, we'll have something modern and sustainable that resembles neither of the past models. I hope to see more green reforms for sustainable development. Perhaps we could also have shorter work weeks, UBI, and more technological assistance for various jobs. I'd really like to see universal healthcare and better education standards, programs, and opportunities as well.
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Originally Posted By HappyNewWincel⏩
With any luck, we'll have something modern and sustainable that resembles neither of the past models. I hope to see more green reforms for sustainable development. Perhaps we could also have shorter work weeks, UBI, and more technological assistance for various jobs. I'd really like to see universal healthcare and better education standards, programs, and opportunities as well.
I want any system devoid of or purposely mitigating human nature.

Nuclear would be a good start.

This whole packaging thing we've done has ruined accomplishment. It shouldn't be zero sum
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Fukin LOL @ stizzel and memcop still taking L's over and over.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Fukin LOL @ stizzel and memcop still taking L's over and over.
Help me out, what "L"
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Help me out, what "L"
Every time a khokhol gets vaporized by russian artillery its an L for Russia because the retard crew values the cost of that round more than the lives it took

Massive L's every day. Just non stop L's. Brutal
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/europe-...ds-11672478326

“Europe’s heavy reliance on natural gas to generate electricity has left it more vulnerable this year after Russia choked off gas supplies to the continent as part of its war in Ukraine.”




LOL just LOL
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Every time a khokhol gets vaporized by russian artillery its an L for Russia because the retard crew values the cost of that round more than the lives it took

Massive L's every day. Just non stop L's. Brutal
Lol at thinking I'll even entertain pretending to be for Russia, you bald fuk.
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I'm for Russia, but not for the bloodshed if that makes sense. Like I think the Russian side is correct going way back to the Donbass dispute. But I don't approve of the war even though I feel Putin's hand was forced.
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Lol at thinking I'll even entertain pretending to be for Russia, you bald fuk.
You're either for Ukraine or you're for Russia. There's no inbetween komrade
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