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if you hate on tate and want him jailed you are either:

A) jealous
B) low t
C) the type of person he attacks in his videos aka an NPC

how can you want the man thats speaking against the rich and powerful to be jailed. how can you want to be a slave and want the rich to continue destroying humanity?
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
if you hate on tate and want him jailed you are either:

A) jealous
B) low t
C) the type of person he attacks in his videos aka an NPC

how can you want the man thats speaking against the rich and powerful to be jailed. how can you want to be a slave and want the rich to continue destroying humanity?
You're a clown if you think Tate is against the elite. His whole schtick is just a means of gaining himself extra wealth and publicity. Are you going to start burning your books too now daddy Tate has said reading is for losers?
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
if you hate on tate and want him jailed you are either:

A) jealous
B) low t
C) the type of person he attacks in his videos aka an NPC

how can you want the man thats speaking against the rich and powerful to be jailed. how can you want to be a slave and want the rich to continue destroying humanity?
Let me guess your father wasn't around?
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Somethng ive noticed about all the tater tots is they are mostly black and fatherless. I mean I guess saying black then fatherless is redundant but still. There are also some whites who have daddy issues or also no fathers who suckle on Tate's nuts.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
The problem is that the definition isnt entirely precise or well defined. Human trafficking is more than just grabbing a little girl in Mexico, putting her inside a bag and sending her in a boat to a shady part of Europe.


I think by law, a form of human trafficking is for example, manipulating or convincing a woman to exchange sex or her time for money, aka being a pimp. Even if the women can leave any second they want and they are free to do whatever they want to do, if Tate would make them fall in love with him, or he would bull**** them with the promises of a relationship, more money or whatever, that could be argued as being manipulated into being a sex worker, which could count as human traffic.

Dont quote me on this tho i may completely be talking out of my ass
Here's the definition of Human Trafficking:

the unlawful act of transporting or coercing people in order to benefit from their work or service, typically in the form of forced labor or sexual exploitation.

Here's the definition of sexual exploitation:

Sexual exploitation is defined as an actual or attempted abuse of someone's position of vulnerability (such as a person depending on you for survival, food rations, school, books, transport or other services), differential power or trust, to obtain sexual favours, including but not only, by offering money or other social, economic or political advantages. It includes trafficking and prostitution.

Running a cam business doesn't inherently fall under those definitions despite how vague and open ended they are. I'm morally against having a cam business, but his business was also just based on chicks talking to men and being flirty and a bit sexual for more money. It's a but different than sex on camera. It's also not prostitution by definition.

I don't think they have anything on Tate. This is all speculation. If Tate goes down because of his cam business, then you could realistically target any man paying for a chick (think dan blizerian) to be flown out to you and having sex with as human trafficking.

This is all extremely vague and legally I have no idea how you could even make sense of it in his case. It's too intricate and burden of proof has to be pretty damning. Good luck though.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I think by law, a form of human trafficking is for example, manipulating or convincing a woman to exchange sex or her time for money, aka being a pimp. Even if the women can leave any second they want and they are free to do whatever they want to do, if Tate would make them fall in love with him, or he would bull**** them with the promises of a relationship, more money or whatever, that could be argued as being manipulated into being a sex worker, which could count as human traffic.
This is the type of cuckery definition of trafficking you'd see on reddit srs
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Here's the definition of Human Trafficking:

the unlawful act of transporting or coercing people in order to benefit from their work or service, typically in the form of forced labor or sexual exploitation.

Here's the definition of sexual exploitation:

Sexual exploitation is defined as an actual or attempted abuse of someone's position of vulnerability (such as a person depending on you for survival, food rations, school, books, transport or other services), differential power or trust, to obtain sexual favours, including but not only, by offering money or other social, economic or political advantages. It includes trafficking and prostitution.

Running a cam business doesn't inherently fall under those definitions despite how vague and open ended they are. I'm morally against having a cam business, but his business was also just based on chicks talking to men and being flirty and a bit sexual for more money. It's a but different than sex on camera. It's also not prostitution by definition.

I don't think they have anything on Tate. This is all speculation. If Tate goes down because of his cam business, then you could realistically target any man paying for a chick (think dan blizerian) to be flown out to you and having sex with as human trafficking.

This is all extremely vague and legally I have no idea how you could even make sense of it in his case. It's too intricate and burden of proof has to be pretty damning. Good luck though.
Of course I think it’s bull****, people are acting like Tate literally kidnapped women and put them to work as sex slaves lol.

Im just saying there’s a grey area that, if they want to take Tate down, they will exploit and people will gladly eat it up. What worries me the most is that most of his haters wouldn’t really care if Tate got locked down for no reason whatsoever, and that is a scary fuking thought.
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
if you hate on tate and want him jailed you are either:

A) jealous
B) low t
C) the type of person he attacks in his videos aka an NPC

how can you want the man thats speaking against the rich and powerful to be jailed. how can you want to be a slave and want the rich to continue destroying humanity?
Yeh bro. Tate who goes around telling dudes to waste money on BS like exotic cars, and also saying that reading is for losers.....is speaking against the rich and powerful.

Tate pushes a narrative that dumbs down his followers. Nothing he says about sloots is groundbreaking, he's basically a les cringy version of LooksMaximus
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
if you hate on tate and want him jailed you are either:

A) jealous
B) low t
C) the type of person he attacks in his videos aka an NPC

how can you want the man thats speaking against the rich and powerful to be jailed. how can you want to be a slave and want the rich to continue destroying humanity?
Dude, every couple of years there's a guy like Tate.

The last time was the PUA movement which I found to be hilarious.

However, it had the same over the top message and did not apply to 99% of men.

There was one PUA who used to "slay" and he had a giant fur tophat he would wear....as you can see, he set the trend for the current giant tophat standard that continues on today!

There was another guy named Tucker Max who was always tricking bitches into letting him pound them with his displays of handsomeness and money.

I think he's married with a dad bod today.

In five years you will not remember Tate and would will be working on your garden or whatever around the house.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Dude, every couple of years there's a guy like Tate.

The last time was the PUA movement which I found to be hilarious.

However, it had the same over the top message and did not apply to 99% of men.

There was one PUA who used to "slay" and he had a giant fur tophat he would wear....as you can see, he set the trend for the current giant tophat standard that continues on today!

There was another guy named Tucker Max who was always tricking bitches into letting him pound them with his displays of handsomeness and money.

I think he's married with a dad bod today.

In five years you will not remember Tate and would will be working on your garden or whatever around the house.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
You're a clown if you think Tate is against the elite. His whole schtick is just a means of gaining himself extra wealth and publicity. Are you going to start burning your books too now daddy Tate has said reading is for losers?
You probably dont watch any of his videos if you dont think hes against the elite. also i wouldnt burn my books and i dont even envy his lifestyle. i actually dont give a fuk about money or cars or anything like that. I like that he tells men to be mentally strong. i dont listen word for word what another man says. I can think for myself
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Let me guess your father wasn't around?
My fathers been around my whole life. however, i cant say ive had two fathers (gay) like youve had so maybe im missing out
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Dude, every couple of years there's a guy like Tate.

In five years you will not remember Tate and would will be working on your garden or whatever around the house.
nope. there is no one as influential (and as fast growing as tate). over a billion view on tiktok alone within a month. on top of that tiktok is the most downloaded app right now. most googled man last year from the short span of time he went viral.

can't remember a single PUA that has had this much media attention ever. but of course tiktok has only been around since ~2016.
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
You probably dont watch any of his videos if you dont think hes against the elite. also i wouldnt burn my books and i dont even envy his lifestyle. i actually dont give a fum about money or cars or anything like that. I like that he tells men to be mentally strong. i dont listen word for word what another man says. I can think for myself



My fathers been around my whole life. however, i cant say ive had a two fathers (gay) like youve had so maybe im missing out
The elite of what? Drug running, webcam prostitution, or invading other countries to vest your own interests and hedge your bets? Because it seems like he's pretty big on being in the elite portions of humanity, whatever context that elite may be - i.e., dominating and subordinating other living beings by flaunting symbols of wealth, power, and status.

People who are 'against' the 'elite', as you call it, will survive on almost nothing and give all their possessions away, because they're smart enough to know that they won't be leaving with any of them.

I'm not even hating, but just trying 'black pill' you all into reality - whenever your intention is to dominate another form of life, you're fitting into an 'elite' lifestyle.

You don't hate doing it to other people, you just hate it when somebody does it to you - which they will, I guarantee you.

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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Yeh bro. Tate who goes around telling dudes to waste money on BS like exotic cars, and also saying that reading is for losers.....is speaking against the rich and powerful.

Tate pushes a narrative that dumbs down his followers. Nothing he says about sloots is groundbreaking, he's basically a les cringy version of LooksMaximus
i dont agree with his metric of success. being rich does not appeal to me at all. id rather live in a nice cozy bungalow vs a mansion with nice cars. However, i do agree with a lot of other things he says such as men should be at their mental/physical peak and how the elite are trying to control the masses
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
The elite of what? Drug running, webcam prostitution, or invading other countries to vest your own interests and hedge your bets? Because it seems like he's pretty big on being in the elite portions of humanity, whatever context that elite may be - i.e., dominating and subordinating other living beings by flaunting symbols of wealth, power, and status.

People who are 'against' the 'elite', as you call it, will survive on almost nothing and give all their possessions away, because they're smart enough to know that they won't be leaving with any of them.
when i speak of the elite, i speak of the ones truly own our society

I stick up for andrew tate because i know he truly wants good for men and wants men to succeed. he has changed many peoples lives and the fact that the mainstream media hates him makes me like him more. Some people are so lost and need guidance and i hope something opens their eyes. whether its tate or life experience. hes basically mainstream misc. sure he flaunts a lot but another mans flaunting will never both me because im secure
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
when i speak of the elite, i speak of the ones truly own our society
So is there one person who owns the whole world or is it the combined effort of mankind's consciousness that has created the world that we currently inhabit?

Please read my updated post number #860
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
So is there one person who owns the whole world or is it the combined effort of mankind's consciousness that has created the world that we currently inhabit?

Please read my updated post number #860
neither. both options are retarded. its a group of very powerful people. i dont know who exactly but i know our politicians are bought out and make sabotage laws to make our lives harder
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So I take it this guy is playing a character? Not gonna lie he’s pretty funny.
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Originally Posted By beansieweansie
neither. both options are retarded. its a group of very powerful people. i dont know who exactly but i know our politicians are bought out and make sabotage laws to make our lives harder
So somebody influences people of influence by appealing to their survival mechanism (money, love, sex, fame, status) or do they threaten their family like the Italian Black Hand or the Colombian, Pablo Escobar?
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
No it's called simple hypocrisy and it is hilarious. You can't take a moral high ground on something when you perpetuate the exact same immoral behavior.
The hilarious part is how you and the other retards are making up things and trying to twist the meaning of words to try and defend a random piece of schit snake oil salesman.

The icing on the cake is your mongoloid analogue that doesn’t even make any sense. If you ever rubbed one out to any piece of porn then you’re no better than a ph4ggot running a human trafficking ring? Wat

Let me spell it out for you once again:

Tate is an immoral spineless crook who doesn’t practice what he preaches and is lacking any and all (moral) substance
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Well, that is basically the point. His main point and everything he says can be resumed in the following: If you want to beat the system, dont play by its rules. Putting whores in front of a camera and talk to lonely guys with money to make hundreds of thousands per year, or building connections with the organized crime in wherever ****hole, things like that are, thinking outside the box, is exactly how you stop being dependand of the system and actually start being free.

How else you think men make their first billion? You think they do it by following strictly the bible's moral code and doing everything by the book? Of course not, hell, in fact even most millionaires got there by doing what you could argue its "immoral".

So if you want to get to the level where you can buy a hundred luxury/sports car, own a private jet and things of that sort, then of course you going to make every fukin play OUTSIDE the book. Thats his point at the end of the day, teachers at school dont teach you or tell you to achieve millions of dollars and own as many sports car as you want, society teaches you to follow the rules and basically be a slave to the system.

You dont have to get to Tate's level and still like and appreciate his general message. I dont need billions, most people dont need billions and quite frankly 99% of people dont have the personality and mentality needed to even get close to that level.

But i sure do think theres lots of value on trying to wake people up and tell them that what they are being fed since day 1 is not the ONLY way, and there are other ways to achieve freedoom and happiness. Being part of a system that works, is healthy, is running great, then sure, no big deal, by all means do whats more comfortable to you. Take the 20th century for example, you want to play by the book in the 20th century and you are going to do great. Have a nice income, have a good house, have your 3-5 kids, your beautiful not-fat wife, etc. Be smart with your money and if you worked hard, in a couple of decades you may even have enough saved for a second home, a boat or whatever.


Thats great, the problem is that the system in 2022 is absolutely flawed, its terrible. Playing by the book will get you ****. Following the rules will get you depression and frustration, good luck buying a good house and a good car with an average/slightly above average income, good luck getting a girl that isnt fat or a complete whore by being the average joe, good luck saving enough for retirement when you cant even afford to have more than 1 kid because they are so damn expensive. See my point?


Society has a system, a system pushed by the elites. You cant deny this fact. So the message of thinking outside the box and trying to leave the system is absolutely gold IMO. No, you dont have to be a camwhore pimp or get involved with romanian organized crime, no need to get to that level, but you sure as hell can exploit the system to your advantage and become part of the few % of people that are living their lives as opposed to being told how to live their lives.


Personally i havent heard another guy saying the truths Tate's says, not as boldly and not as public as he does it, and in fact, i like him even more because he could keep his mouth shut and enjoy his billions, yet hed rather put his face in front of multiple media sources, cameras, podcast, newshows etc to repeatedly call out the elites and talk about how rigged the system is. If he had kept his mouth shut after his last cancelation, and maybe just kept to his hustlers university thing or whatever, he probably wouldnt be arrested by now, but nah, he decided to double down on calling out the clown world, and that has some value too IMO.
There's a huge spectrum when it comes to not playing by societal rules and achieving success. Whoring out girls on camera and scamming simps is one extreme example, so is associating with shady crime figures who no doubt commit much worse. There's less incriminating ways of making money.

It's just retarded to keep larping the 'matrix' chit after your dodgy past catches up, ESPECIALLY when you've been online gloating about it to millions to sell your courses. Which is his shtick, the only reason he was running around promoting that life was to sell his courses, not because he cared so much about 'masculinity'. And he succeeded because of the anti-male culture in the west, not despite it, most young men are disfranchised incels. So in fact, the 'matrix' has helped him, he just had to shut the fuk up.

I don't even care about the morality aspect of it, I doubt he is even guilty of what he's been accused of and don't believe he is an evil guy. I just don't like people who are contradictory, as almost all of the red pill/manosphere space is. He has jumped on Islam and conservative bandwagon now, but the lifestyle him and his brother have promoted until now has been the complete opposite of those values. He's just another charismatic fake guru, but appeals to the increasing incel masses so has become bigger than the rest of the charlatans in his space.
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Originally Posted By WHYCANTILIFT
nope. there is no one as influential (and as fast growing as tate). over a billion view on tiktok alone within a month. on top of that tiktok is the most downloaded app right now. most googled man last year from the short span of time he went viral.

can't remember a single PUA that has had this much media attention ever. but of course tiktok has only been around since ~2016.
It doesn't matter how many views someone has on social media.

Most of the world has no idea who Tate is and no adult is going to be watching his tiktok videos.

He has a lot of views because it's easy to view. I watched two of his videos and I think he's another PUA type, because that's what he is.

Everything is to scale.

In the 90s there were guys like him and they were on TV, so they got no tiktok views, then PUA had websites and youtube vids, but youtube was just getting popular, so it's to scale.

Hitler had no subscribers on youtube and look how popular he is even today.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
It doesn't matter how many views someone has on social media.

Most of the world has no idea who Tate is and no adult is going to be watching his tiktok videos.

He has a lot of views because it's easy to view. I watched two of his videos and I think he's another PUA type, because that's what he is.

Everything is to scale.

In the 90s there were guys like him and they were on TV, so they got no tiktok views, then PUA had websites and youtube vids, but youtube was just getting popular, so it's to scale.

Hitler had no subscribers on youtube and look how popular he is even today.
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I like the message: "You Should Listen To People Who Make Your Life Better."

And keeping in mind that this is different from listening to people whoseintentionsare to make your life better. Actuality > intentions. There is no value in listening to people who want the best for you but your life isn't any better for it.

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People online are posting that his supercars have been seized and there are people who think Andrew is in jail. Is Andrew posting tweets in jail or is someone else posting on his behalf?

I don't believe he is a human trafficker but I am only taking his word for it because I don't believe he is foolish enough. His story about his cam business inception is that he gathered women and pitched his cam business. Those who didn't want any part of it, left, and those who did, stayed.

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the more i read about Tate and what he was doing, the more I notice he was just a thug criminal, hoping his social media "celebirty" would prevent him from being arrested.

He isn't a PUA. He gets women by threatening them and roping them. Funny how mr alpha doesn't talk about that in his interviews.

google his 2016 where he beats the crap out of that girl in his bedroom. "role play", yeah right. Those fits were not role-playing. Enjoy your 15-20 years in prison.
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle
the more i read about Tate and what he was doing, the more I notice he was just a thug criminal, hoping his social media "celebirty" would prevent him from being arrested.

He isn't a PUA. He gets women by threatening them and roping them. Funny how mr alpha doesn't talk about that in his interviews.

google his 2016 where he beats the crap out of that girl in his bedroom. "role play", yeah right. Those fits were not role-playing. Enjoy your 15-20 years in prison.
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Well, that is basically the point. His main point and everything he says can be resumed in the following: If you want to beat the system, dont play by its rules. Putting whores in front of a camera and talk to lonely guys with money to make hundreds of thousands per year, or building connections with the organized crime in wherever ****hole, things like that are, thinking outside the box, is exactly how you stop being dependand of the system and actually start being free.
LOL its actually the opposite. I don't make connections with organized crime not because the thought never occurred to me but because there's a 90% chance you'll wind up dead or in jail
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How else you think men make their first billion? You think they do it by following strictly the bible's moral code and doing everything by the book? Of course not, hell, in fact even most millionaires got there by doing what you could argue its "immoral".

So if you want to get to the level where you can buy a hundred luxury/sports car, own a private jet and things of that sort, then of course you going to make every fukin play OUTSIDE the book. Thats his point at the end of the day, teachers at school dont teach you or tell you to achieve millions of dollars and own as many sports car as you want, society teaches you to follow the rules and basically be a slave to the system.

You dont have to get to Tate's level and still like and appreciate his general message. I dont need billions, most people dont need billions and quite frankly 99% of people dont have the personality and mentality needed to even get close to that level.

But i sure do think theres lots of value on trying to wake people up and tell them that what they are being fed since day 1 is not the ONLY way, and there are other ways to achieve freedoom and happiness. Being part of a system that works, is healthy, is running great, then sure, no big deal, by all means do whats more comfortable to you. Take the 20th century for example, you want to play by the book in the 20th century and you are going to do great. Have a nice income, have a good house, have your 3-5 kids, your beautiful not-fat wife, etc. Be smart with your money and if you worked hard, in a couple of decades you may even have enough saved for a second home, a boat or whatever.


Thats great, the problem is that the system in 2022 is absolutely flawed, its terrible. Playing by the book will get you ****. Following the rules will get you depression and frustration, good luck buying a good house and a good car with an average/slightly above average income, good luck getting a girl that isnt fat or a complete whore by being the average joe, good luck saving enough for retirement when you cant even afford to have more than 1 kid because they are so damn expensive. See my point?


Society has a system, a system pushed by the elites. You cant deny this fact. So the message of thinking outside the box and trying to leave the system is absolutely gold IMO. No, you dont have to be a camwhore pimp or get involved with romanian organized crime, no need to get to that level, but you sure as hell can exploit the system to your advantage and become part of the few % of people that are living their lives as opposed to being told how to live their lives.


Personally i havent heard another guy saying the truths Tate's says, not as boldly and not as public as he does it, and in fact, i like him even more because he could keep his mouth shut and enjoy his billions, yet hed rather put his face in front of multiple media sources, cameras, podcast, newshows etc to repeatedly call out the elites and talk about how rigged the system is. If he had kept his mouth shut after his last cancelation, and maybe just kept to his hustlers university thing or whatever, he probably wouldnt be arrested by now, but nah, he decided to double down on calling out the clown world, and that has some value too IMO.
I agree with most everything else you said but he puts himself out there because there is no such thing as too much money to a guy like him and grifting simps and wannabe anti simps is his game. He's not in this for any altruistic reasons
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Originally Posted By TBO1313
LOL its actually the opposite. I don't make connections with organized crime not because the thought never occurred to me but because there's a 90% chance you'll wind up dead or in jail


I agree with most everything else you said but he puts himself out there because there is no such thing as too much money to a guy like him and grifting simps and wannabe anti simps is his game. He's not in this for any altruistic reasons
Yeah, he is no messiah, nor he has ever claimed to be doing all of this just for the sake of being moraly righteous. Of course he likes the fame and the money, who wouldnt? I still dont think hes dumb enough to not realize what would happen if he kept talking about those topics, in fact he repeatedly said in the last few podcasts that it was only a matter of time till they would put him in jail or suicide him. He isnt an idiot, if he had stayed quiet he would have made much more money in the long run, stayed alive and free, rather than just stay super relevant for a few more months and then just be put in jail or whatever

Anyway, hats why i dont get, why are people focusing so much on him rather than what hes saying? Its not about the messenger, its about the message hes delivering which is IMO right 99% of the time. If you need a person to be flawless in order for you to admit they have great things to say, then nobody will have great things to say.

I think people dislike him either because of envy, or because he speaks some bold ass truths that are not nice to hear. Any other reason is just cope IMO.
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