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post 1674373283 01-08-2023, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
My Quran is on its way and will be here tomorrow brah.

Ready to read it front to back.
King James Bible you dummy.
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Originally Posted By WoWzerzzzz⏩
King James Bible you dummy.
I've read the old testament and new testament.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
I've read the old testament and new testament.
With all due respect then you must've not believed it because if you did you wouldn't be waiting to read the inferior koran written by an illiterate peedophile.

With all due respect.
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
I've read the old testament and new testament.
Then what more do you need reread the New Testament that is the last teachings
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
Another falsehood. Where do you guys get this from?

Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.



But the verse I posted literally says the exact opposite of what you're saying. So who's right? You or God?
Do you know what the Jewish people meant by the term "son of man"?
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
Another falsehood. Where do you guys get this from?

Matthew 12:31-32 (KJV) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.



But the verse I posted literally says the exact opposite of what you're saying. So who's right? You or God?
Jesus changes everything
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Originally Posted By Immichaelski⏩
Want to hear something scary. One night I made a friend at a party. We had decided we would start hanging out once we got home. Everyone was driving crazy and we both discussed concerns about it. Later that night there was a bad accident. I actually walked up on his body. He was an instant vegetable. It was like he was trying to talk but nothing would come out. I literally had to sit by him talking to him knowing he could hear me until the ambulance got there. He died but the next day I had the most realistic dream! Like he was in a place! It was red for real like loooned line the core of the earth. There were people screaming like in pain and horror and he was yelling for me to help him. I kept trying to awake but couldn’t like I was being sucked into it. It was the most realistic thing I’d ever dreamed. I woke up soaked in sweat!!
what the fuk. did you suffer any psychological damage from that chit?
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Originally Posted By WoWzerzzzz⏩
Jesus changes everything
Brah I love any and all brothers in Christ but you're just not making any sense itt.

Bowing out.
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
With all due respect then you must've not believed it because if you did you wouldn't be waiting to read the inferior koran written by an illiterate peedophile.

With all due respect.
They say the same thing about the bible.

Let's be honest here boyo. I call myself a Christian but seeing what I've seen in churches the past year, really figuring out what people believe, and seeing how cucked Christianity is in the west shows me the pure lack of conviction of the Bible. There are way too many contradictions in the Bible and I'm not a fan of the Paulism and trinity obsession in modern christianity.

The Quran seems to take care of a lot of issues I see in the Bible, but of course I want to read it front to back and make my own conclusion. The Quran is actually quite similar in certain ways to the bible and has quite a few things in common with the bible.

I'm seeking truth and not just seeking to convince myself of something that I have too many questions about that can't seem to be answered.

The Jews call Jesus a common criminal. The Christians call Muhammed a ****phile. And the Muslims say peace be upon both of them. Yet the muslims are the bad guys right?
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For anybody who hasn't woke up yet.

This world is hell lol.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
They say the same thing about the bible.

Let's be honest here boyo. I call myself a Christian but seeing what I've seen in churches the past year, really figuring out what people believe, and seeing how cucked Christianity is in the west shows me the pure lack of conviction of the Bible. There are way too many contradictions in the Bible and I'm not a fan of the Paulism and trinity obsession in modern christianity.

The Quran seems to take care of a lot of issues I see in the Bible, but of course I want to read it front to back and make my own conclusion. The Quran is actually quite similar in certain ways to the bible and has quite a few things in common with the bible.

I'm seeking truth and not just seeking to convince myself of something that I have too many questions about that can't seem to be answered.

The Jews call Jesus a common criminal. The Christians call Muhammed a ****phile. And the Muslims say peace be upon both of them. Yet the muslims are the bad guys right?
Well Mohammed is a self admitted peedo. It's literally in the book.

But was oh so gracious enough to marry the girl at SIX years old but wait until she was NINE to have intercourse with her.

Hopefully when you get to that section you'll throw it in the trash where it belongs and get saved by the one true God.

What contradictions btw?
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

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Originally Posted By Goodguy03⏩
what the fuk. did you suffer any psychological damage from that chit?
No. What’s strange is I was actually in the car that wrecked but I had scar tissue in my kidneys and had to take a piss. It was taking longer than usual so I went into a cotton field a few steps and the dude took my spit in the car. I was in so much pain from my issue that I ended up dropping out of college at the time and really had no cares for anyone at the time srs
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
My Quran is on its way and will be here tomorrow brah.

Ready to read it front to back.
Quran 2:2
This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah

InshAllah (God willing) my brah - brothers in Christ and I hope you find guidance in it.

Quran 19:30-40
˹Jesus˺ declared, “I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.
He has made me a blessing wherever I go, and bid me to establish prayer and give alms-tax as long as I live,
and to be kind to my mother. He has not made me arrogant or defiant.
Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I will be raised back to life!”
That is Jesus, son of Mary. ˹And this is˺ a word of truth, about which they dispute.
It is not for Allah to take a son! Glory be to Him. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, “Be!” And it is!
˹Jesus also declared,˺ “Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.”
Yet their ˹various˺ groups have differed among themselves ˹about him˺, so woe to the disbelievers when they face a tremendous Day!
How clearly will they hear and see on the Day they will come to Us! But today the wrongdoers are clearly astray.
And warn them ˹O Prophet˺ of the Day of Regret, when all matters will be settled, while they are ˹engrossed˺ in heedlessness and disbelief.
Indeed, it is We Who will succeed the earth and whoever is on it. And to Us they will ˹all˺ be returned.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
They say the same thing about the bible.

Let's be honest here boyo. I call myself a Christian but seeing what I've seen in churches the past year, really figuring out what people believe, and seeing how cucked Christianity is in the west shows me the pure lack of conviction of the Bible. There are way too many contradictions in the Bible and I'm not a fan of the Paulism and trinity obsession in modern christianity.

The Quran seems to take care of a lot of issues I see in the Bible, but of course I want to read it front to back and make my own conclusion. The Quran is actually quite similar in certain ways to the bible and has quite a few things in common with the bible.

I'm seeking truth and not just seeking to convince myself of something that I have too many questions about that can't seem to be answered.

The Jews call Jesus a common criminal. The Christians call Muhammed a ****phile. And the Muslims say peace be upon both of them. Yet the muslims are the bad guys right?
You are looking for a whole group. You are the church. You are baptized and you become the church. You are the holy temple. And the holy spirit lives in you because he lives in the holy temple. He lives in me every second. A million Christians are not a Christian
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I wrote this in another thread but I want truth (and if that's Christianity, I better follow it). But just some things about God being perfect and Jesus not fitting the description of a perfect God.

Spoiler!

(Only acts according to what the father commands of him. How does God get commanded?)
John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just;
because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

(God knows everything all the time - didn't know the hour. Even in his God nature, he is not the father and doesn't know it.)
Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

(The Father is the only true God and he was sent by him. Why the distinction?)
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(He said only the Father is Good)
Mark 10:17-18
And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

(The leader asking how to enter heaven. Perfect time for him to tell mention the trinity)
Luke 18:18-22
And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.
Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

(Is God one or a trinity?)
Mark 12:28-29
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

(God had "sons" by the dozen)
Psalms 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

(Why don't Christians practice the Torah?)
Matthew 5:17-19
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

(God praying to another God? Does God have a God?)
Matthew 26:39
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible,
let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Prophets in the O.T. prayed this way falling on their face (and ironically, Muslim still do).

Spoiler!

Matthew 17:6
"And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid."

Genesis 17:17
"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?"

Exodus 34:8
"And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped."

Numbers 20:6
“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.”

Numbers 16:20-22
"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?"

Nehemiah 8:6
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground.

Joshua 5:14
"And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?"

Ezekiel 9:8
"And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?"

2 Chronicles 20:18
"And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD."

Ezekiel 11:13
"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?"

2:136
Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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I think a lot of people are agnostic through their 20’s and longer to later start believing there’s possibly more out there.
This body holding me, be my reminder here that I am not alone.
Makes me feel eternal, all this Pain is an Illusion.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
They say the same thing about the bible.

Let's be honest here boyo. I call myself a Christian but seeing what I've seen in churches the past year, really figuring out what people believe, and seeing how cucked Christianity is in the west shows me the pure lack of conviction of the Bible. There are way too many contradictions in the Bible and I'm not a fan of the Paulism and trinity obsession in modern christianity.

The Quran seems to take care of a lot of issues I see in the Bible, but of course I want to read it front to back and make my own conclusion. The Quran is actually quite similar in certain ways to the bible and has quite a few things in common with the bible.

I'm seeking truth and not just seeking to convince myself of something that I have too many questions about that can't seem to be answered.

The Jews call Jesus a common criminal. The Christians call Muhammed a ****phile. And the Muslims say peace be upon both of them. Yet the muslims are the bad guys right?
ive mostly found the most contradictions to be located in pauls letters. you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to understand wtf hes on about sometimes. everything jesus said makes sense to me tho.
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Originally Posted By Goodguy03⏩
ive mostly found the most contradictions to be located in pauls letters. you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to understand wtf hes on about sometimes. everything jesus said makes sense to me tho.
Exactly. They're letters put together from Paul. He says some based things, but then other times it's extremely contradictory. He literally killed Christians prior to his supposed encounter with God. Paul is referenced so much though and you see people go nuts when you just question some of it.

I can't do the trinity either. It's never mentioned in the Bible, and it makes zero sense based on what the Bible says. So Jesus prays to himself? He's his own father?

I love a lot of the bible though. I love certain aspects of orthodoxy and Christianity. But somethings missing for me.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
. But somethings missing for me.
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Originally Posted By WoWzerzzzz⏩
Faith
This is salvation we are talking about; it's not a joke.
Read post # 46 and I'm trying to be sincere and if you can explain them to me logically (or anyone else), I'm listening. I'm a student and don't claim to know everything and we can have a respectful dialog and exchange points. Explain how God is perfect and Jesus isn't according to the Bible?

In contrast, the Arab Pagans asked Prophet Mohamed (Peace Be Upon Him) to describe his lord to them and this chapter was revealed...a perfect description of God.

Quran 112
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;
Allah—the Sustainer ˹needed by all˺.
He has never had offspring, nor was He born.
And there is none comparable to Him.”

O.T. too has stuff that I question (and many points; just two for example)

Exodus 20:11 (a resting God?)
For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

And compare that to what Allah says

Quran 50:38
And We did certainly create the heavens and earth and what is between them in six days, and there touched Us no weariness

Ahaziah was 22 or 42? It's from God and shouldn't be incorrect.
2 Kings 8:26
Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri, king of Israel.
2 Chronicles 22:2
Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Whatever you've done an eternity of torment doesn't seem like a valid punishment. The crime nowhere near matches the punishment.

I do a lot of sinful shyt too, but out of suffering/pain.

Sin to me is nothing but human flaws. Actions people do to deal with messed up chit that has happened to them in the past.

This is a more logical way to look at sin.

It seems like the concept of Hell most people are familiar with evolved over time and probably is based on misunderstanding and perhaps mistranslation.

God also has to keep up knowledge of your direct experiences in order to retain omniscience. So, He would also be in Hell along with anyone He sent there...

The concept doesn't make a lot of sense, really.

There's plenty of Hell on Earth as it is...
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Exactly. They're letters put together from Paul. He says some based things, but then other times it's extremely contradictory. He literally killed Christians prior to his supposed encounter with God. Paul is referenced so much though and you see people go nuts when you just question some of it.

I can't do the trinity either. It's never mentioned in the Bible, and it makes zero sense based on what the Bible says. So Jesus prays to himself? He's his own father?

I love a lot of the bible though. I love certain aspects of orthodoxy and Christianity. But somethings missing for me.
Paul is the true doctrine of the traditional Christian church
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar⏩
I think a lot of people are agnostic through their 20’s and longer to later start believing there’s possibly more out there.
that's because they get scared of dying
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Originally Posted By XcelerateNYC⏩
Well Mohammed is a self admitted peedo. It's literally in the book.

But was oh so gracious enough to marry the girl at SIX years old but wait until she was NINE to have intercourse with her.

Hopefully when you get to that section you'll throw it in the trash where it belongs and get saved by the one true God.

What contradictions btw?
You won't find this in the Quran - show the verse if what you say is true. I claim to have a trillion dollars but when it comes to proof, I have to show it.
What about God and Mary - was that wrong?
What about what you attribute to Prophet Lot (Peace Be Upon Him) and the sickness they claim of him sleeping with his daughters? Imagine a Priest said he slept with his daughters; you wouldn't want to be near that guy...let alone what they blaspheme the messengers of God.

Rather, you find the God of the Bible addressing Moses this (why did they keep the virgin girls?)

Numbers 31:16-18
“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people.
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Disclaimer: this is a historical fact and our times are indeed different. The issue you bring up about the Prophet, no historian worldwide has spoken of this until the 19th century. Why is that? Because worldwide, it was very common for women to marry at young age. The enemies of the Prophet called him many names (a mad man, a wicked man, a possessed man, etc but not what you're claiming). You were either a child or an adult in those times and puberty dictated that. Forget centuries ago, we differ on consent today. France, it's 14. Jewish law, a girl can marry at 12 (the same God you believed revealed the O.T.).
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Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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Grow up will you ?
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Originally Posted By MiscGiveMeLOLz⏩
Grow up will you ?
No, lets continue to argue by quoting obscure passages from silly books written thousands of years ago.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
You won't find this in the Quran - show the verse if what you say is true. I claim to have a trillion dollars but when it comes to proof, I have to show it.
What about God and Mary - was that wrong?
What about what you attribute to Prophet Lot (Peace Be Upon Him) and the sickness they claim of him sleeping with his daughters? Imagine a Priest said he slept with his daughters; you wouldn't want to be near that guy...let alone what they blaspheme the messengers of God.

Rather, you find the God of the Bible addressing Moses this (why did they keep the virgin girls?)

Numbers 31:16-18
“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people.
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Disclaimer: this is a historical fact and our times are indeed different. The issue you bring up about the Prophet, no historian worldwide has spoken of this until the 19th century. Why is that? Because worldwide, it was very common for women to marry at young age. The enemies of the Prophet called him many names (a mad man, a wicked man, a possessed man, etc but not what you're claiming). You were either a child or an adult in those times and puberty dictated that. Forget centuries ago, we differ on consent today. France, it's 14. Jewish law, a girl can marry at 12 (the same God you believed revealed the O.T.).
This is 100% correct. Also, if you assume Muhammed is a peedo based on that, then all of our ancestors are peedos. There's no magic age. The age of consent in the 1800s and early 1900s was 10-12 in most states and 7 in Delaware. These mainly religious societies without debt or paper money backed by nothing focused on God, family, church, food, work. They got married young and had children young. Family was wealth. 12 year olds were running entire farms back in the day.

Anytime anyone tells me about how Muhammed is a peedo I blank stare and ask them if they'd read the bible. They're too blind to see the crazy **** "their book" talks about. This is what bothers me so much about "christians." All talk. Used to tell me I wasn't a real Christian if I didn't go to church. After 2020 they suddenly changed their tune.
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