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post 1674545443 01-10-2023, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna
Do you have any statistics on the vaccines being safe and effective?
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.820544/full

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...79-022-07418-y

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9030038/

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.829176/full

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...054-8/fulltext
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Here's your statistics

Summary video:


Actual data:
https://phinancetechnologies.com/Hum...s%20-%20US.htm

Dowd is a hedge fund manager who had his quantitative analysts (phds) look at the mortality data. They looked at deaths in 18-64 year old unemployed people and 18-64 year old employed people right after the vaccine mandates were put in place and they saw a 7% increase in mortality in the unemployed people and 40% increase in the employed people.
Interesting data and suggests that further research is required but until it's in a peer reviewed study I'm not going to take it as conclusive evidence.
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post 1674546283 01-10-2023, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
if you told someone to take a medicine and it ended up killing them, would you publicly admit to the world that your medicine killed them and that you made a mistake, if you didn't have to?
the fact they NEVER mention covid jab status in these articles is pretty hilarious when you consider that EVERYONE is going to ask about it at this point in time.
post 1674547143 01-10-2023, 06:57 PM
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post 1674547643 01-10-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By hobo4president
Interesting data and suggests that further research is required but until it's in a peer reviewed study I'm not going to take it as conclusive evidence.
So then what do you suppose is causing the increase in excess mortalities, especially when it’s in an age group that sees a very low mortality rate. If their numbers are accurate regarding the gap between the amount of increase in the employeed group vs the unemployed group then what do you suppose is causing that difference?


We know that people have had all kinds of serious issues from the injections, up to and including death. So it’s not a question of whether they cause issues or death…it’s a question of how often it happens.
post 1674548293 01-10-2023, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
So then what do you suppose is causing the increase in excess mortalities, especially when it’s in an age group that sees a very low mortality rate. If their numbers are accurate regarding the gap between the amount of increase in the employeed group vs the unemployed group then what do you suppose is causing that difference?


We know that people have had all kinds of serious issues from the injections, up to and including death. So it’s not a question of whether they cause issues or death…it’s a question of how often it happens.
I don't know, that's for researchers to figure out. Regarding the question being how often it happens, I 100% agree.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I can show you peer reviewed studies that say the worst things about the vaccines, are you going to accept the results of those studies because they're "peer reviewed"?
I'll accept them more than a random website that hasn't been peer reviewed, doesn't list it's authors and I have no qualifications for interpreting the data or even the time to confirm the data is valid...
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post 1674548473 01-10-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
nah we all know why zyzz died
Tim Sharky killed him
post 1674548663 01-10-2023, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Zelensky
How do liberals enjoy this my god
post 1674548743 01-10-2023, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Can you tell me why you need something that is based purely on math and statistics to be peer reviewed by doctors that probably have zero training in statistics or anything beyond introductory calculus, meanwhile the people who put forth the analysis are wall street employed quantitative analysts (PhDs in physics/engineering/math/statistics) who get paid many multiples of a doctor's salary to do what they do for a living?

Also, not that I'm particularly hopeful that you believe what I'm telling you or not (it makes no difference to me), but what's your field of study/employment?
Because studies would interpret the data and would be reviewed by other independent researchers. Currently all that website is a bunch of graphs showing correlation but not causation, it does not confirm that excess deaths are due to vaccines at all. How do I know it's put forth by "wall street employed quantitative analysts (PhDs in physics/engineering/math/statistics) who get paid many multiples of a doctor's salary to do what they do for a living" when they don't list the authors? How do I know that it's valid since since it hasn't been independently reviewed? If they think the data proves that the excess deaths are due to the vaccines I await them publishing it in a legitimate journal.

Believe you in regards to what? I work in the financial sector.

If you want to post those peer reviewed studies that show the vaccines are unsafe I'd be happy to look at them.
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post 1674549123 01-10-2023, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
pretty much just miscers and africa srs

better start watching ebony porn srs
Nice, iam ahead of the curve then.
post 1674549173 01-10-2023, 07:31 PM
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post 1674550143 01-10-2023, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
A medication is given to one group of people at a specific time, and not given to another group

Three months after that time, mortality data in those two groups is tabulated

In the medicated group, mortality is 40%

In the nonmedicated group, mortality is 7%

What study needs to be done to understand why the mortality is so different? What other event affected that one group in three months so much more than the other?

Lmao, what is there to interpret? Did people in the medicated group suddenly have excessive cancer, suicides, and alcohol/drug overdoses in a three month period?

Do like, the "researchers" need to make sure the dead people are really dead?

The data is open source, and it's all there, complete with sources.. so your difficulty in believing it is that someone else hasn't read it for you first and told you how to interpret it? If that's where you are, maybe you should get your next booster, srs, it's all a conspiracy.
If you don't understand why data needs to be interpreted, reviewed and variables need to be accounted for then I don't know what to tell you. Notice how excess mortality increase correlates the withdrawal from afghanistan? Curious.

Oh interesting, so have you had a look at the CDC data yourself?
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post 1674550353 01-10-2023, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
imagine being the parent who forced your child to get the clot shot and then they die of heart condition

but, now you can't question the vax because you will be attacked and now you gotta live with the decision that you practically murdered your kid
They won’t take accountability they’ll convince themselves it was something else
post 1674550423 01-10-2023, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted By hobo4president
Your first link says this:


“Our meta-analysis shows that the current vaccines that are used globally could prevent COVID-19 infection and restrict the spread of variants to a great extent.”


We already know that is complete and total horsesh!t.



2nd link says something similar.







3rd link says this:


Compared with mRNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines, inactivated vaccines have a more satisfactory safety profile, both after initial (RR 1.40, 95% CI 1.04–1.90, P = 0.03) and booster (RR 1.84, 95% CI 1.20–2.81, P = 0.005) vaccination.The risk of adverse reactions was significantly increased after the first and second doses, but there was no significant difference between the first two doses(RR 1.00, 95%CI 0.99–1.02, P = 0.60). Nevertheless, the two-dose regimen is obviously superior to the single-dose schedule for immunogenicity and efficacy. After booster vaccination, both neutralizing antibodies (RR 144.80, 95%CI 44.97–466.24, P < 0.00001) and RBD-binding antibodies (RR 101.50, 95%CI 6.44–1,600.76, P = 0.001) reach optimal levels, but the cellular immune response seemed not to be further enhanced. In addition, compared with younger children, older children and adolescents were at significantly increased risk of adverse reactions after vaccination, with either mRNA or inactivated vaccines.


The available evidence suggests that the safety, immunogenicity and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines are acceptable in people aged 3–17 years. “



So we know it won’t prevent infection and spread. And we know the mRNA injections are worse than other options when it comes to adverse events. And we know that older children and adolescents have a much higher risk of adverse events after the injections. Conclusion! Fukk it, it’s acceptable. They literally just said “it’s acceptable” and people read that and go “ok, the study said it’s acceptable”.



The last one you linked is based on VAERS and also notes this - Authors from the CDC, the funder, were responsible for study design, data analysis, data interpretation, and writing of the report.


So it’s basically worse than useless.
post 1674550553 01-10-2023, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
What makes you think the data hasn't been interpreted, reviewed, and variables accounted for by the author and his quants?
I never said it hasn't, I just don't know if it has and since they don't list the authors and there's no evidence it's been independently reviewed I'm understandably skeptical about any conclusions that can be drawn from this. Now if they were to publish this in a legitimate journal it would have more credence.
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Your first link says this:


“Our meta-analysis shows that the current vaccines that are used globally could prevent COVID-19 infection and restrict the spread of variants to a great extent.”


We already know that is complete and total horsesh!t.



2nd link says something similar.







3rd link says this:


Compared with mRNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines, inactivated vaccines have a more satisfactory safety profile, both after initial (RR 1.40, 95% CI 1.04–1.90, P = 0.03) and booster (RR 1.84, 95% CI 1.20–2.81, P = 0.005) vaccination.The risk of adverse reactions was significantly increased after the first and second doses, but there was no significant difference between the first two doses(RR 1.00, 95%CI 0.99–1.02, P = 0.60). Nevertheless, the two-dose regimen is obviously superior to the single-dose schedule for immunogenicity and efficacy. After booster vaccination, both neutralizing antibodies (RR 144.80, 95%CI 44.97–466.24, P < 0.00001) and RBD-binding antibodies (RR 101.50, 95%CI 6.44–1,600.76, P = 0.001) reach optimal levels, but the cellular immune response seemed not to be further enhanced. In addition, compared with younger children, older children and adolescents were at significantly increased risk of adverse reactions after vaccination, with either mRNA or inactivated vaccines.


The available evidence suggests that the safety, immunogenicity and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines are acceptable in people aged 3–17 years. “



So we know it won’t prevent infection and spread. And we know the mRNA injections are worse than other options when it comes to adverse events. And we know that older children and adolescents have a much higher risk of adverse events after the injections. Conclusion! Fukk it, it’s acceptable. They literally just said “it’s acceptable” and people read that and go “ok, the study said it’s acceptable”.



The last one you linked is based on VAERS and also notes this - Authors from the CDC, the funder, were responsible for study design, data analysis, data interpretation, and writing of the report.


So it’s basically worse than useless.
Interesting, I'd like to see your evidence for your claims.
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post 1674550893 01-10-2023, 07:59 PM
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Didint read article... wonder if they died virgins. That would suck. Not sure why i think of that stuff. They were dudes? I remember being 16 and thinking i might die a virgin. But i lost it that year. I'm high as fuk rn, sorry
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post 1674550923 01-10-2023, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Authors right here:

https://phinancetechnologies.com/Hum...ty%20About.asp



Now, let's say it's "independently" reviewed and the "independent" reviewers agree with the thesis. What then? Do you need an independent reviewer to review the independent's review of the thesis?
Oh cool, so they have people with research backgrounds who have published papers before, I look forward to seeing this printed in a legitimate journal so it can be independently reviewed.
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Originally Posted By hobo4president
Interesting, I'd like to see your evidence for your claims.
Evidence for what claim? Saying that anyone who says the injections are greatly reducing infection and spread is full of sh!t? The evidence is called look around you.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
To some people this is still a surprise lmao
Most jabbies don't even know that the #1 and #2 people for vaccine safety in the FDA RESIGNED over these shots lmao.

Literally should have been the #1 news story related to the shots, but that wouldn't be good for business.

Not THOSE doctors!
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21 year old from my hometown dropped dead on his way to class in the Air Force

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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314
21 year old from my hometown dropped dead on his way to class in the Air Force

bet you he was healthy, not overweight and was in great physical shape


til he got the clot shot
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there no substantial proof that the vax killed them
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
there no substantial proof that the vax killed them
just a lot of coincidences of young kids healthy kids hearts just giving out after the clot shot
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
just a lot of coincidences of young kids healthy kids hearts just giving out after the clot shot
if thats your argument, then i can counter it by saying.... ever since weed has been legalized ,fatalities amoung the young "healthy kids" has sored

lol donkeys like you are just stupid
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strong site lol, doesn't sound targeted at all
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Originally Posted By rocketfish
just a lot of coincidences of young kids healthy kids hearts just giving out after the clot shot
The biggest problem with this is no one has proved this is ACTUALLY true. Any actual real hard numbers that there is more or if people are just paying attention more and you hear about it more because a subset of the right is so rabbid about talking about it.

Personally my gut feeling is there is indeed more, but probably only something like 2% more than average.
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I don't like the idea of just dropping dead out of the blue, with no pre existing condition. Never heard of that before 2021.
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lol at vaxxer cope.

kids used to die all the time in my PE class.

just fuking lol at taking the jew juice
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Originally Posted By redmelly
I don't like the idea of just dropping dead out of the blue, with no pre existing condition. Never heard of that before 2021.
Aneurism
Heart attack (random clot)
Stroke
Infection
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