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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
Nope show me a peer reviewed study or nothing.I'm tired of tweets and fringe blogs being the 'proof'. And I wonder what else has been going around that was a bioengineered weapon that might explain excess deaths.

I dont trust the vaxx. Im not happy I was all but forced to take it to keep my career.

But im sick and tired of every schizo and CTer crying chicken little the sky is falling without credible proof. Its all the same morons who fell for Qanon. Its extremely telling all the same people who were talking about how its a bioengineered weapon escaped out of wuhan research institude (which I think is right) all the sudden stopped talking about that, and focused on the vax. Its a mental illness.


Also lastly using % numbers is a scare tactic of those who dont understand studies, or do and knowingly inflate the risk. A 50% increase chance of clot when the baseline chance is .02 is .04.
I've posted lots of peer reviewed studies here on misc. Two of the tweets I just posted refer to peer reviewed studies.



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2283145v1.full




https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2283625v1.full


The IG4 thing is from a study and has been covered by multiple people.




They found that after the third shot [the booster] that immunoglobulin makeup changed in a significant way. The type of immunoglobulin which clears the virus dropped to near zero while at the same time the type of immunoglobulin which reduces inflammation [IOW which causes the body to tolerate the virus instead of clearing it] increased from something like 0.4% to 40%.


I understand the desire for studies while attempting to understand this situation. Unfortunately the "science" has been corrupted quite badly by financial interests. Big studies require big money so small studies may be more likely overall to signal endpoints that are not desired by those who fund the big studies.

Hundreds of studies re:covid vaccine injury:
https://community.covidvaccineinjuri...cine-injuries/

You have likely heard that the guy who created the PCR test said that it should not be used to diagnose infection. Did you know that they didn't even use an isolated sample of covid to create the stupid test?



https://fos-sa.org/2021/08/02/fda-do...omething-else/
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
But im sick and tired of every schizo and CTer crying chicken little the sky is falling without credible proof.
proof is a red herring. a myth. it exists in the realm of mathematics. to demand proof is declaring the refusal of using one's own brain to analyze circumstance
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
You sound and look soooo fukkin stupid when people like you say this. Its not even a question its happened way before the vaxx ever exsisted. In fact it happened more before all vaxxes existed. The real data is so scarce you have anonymous shizo bloggers being used as the source for trying to convince you its the shot.

I never eliminated the possibility of excess deaths being the shot. Im saying post actual peer reviewed studies or STFU. Im suck of all you mongloid schizo CTers coming on the misc ruining it with your bullchit doomsday vaxx bullchit every single fukkin day. You pathetic fukks scrub the internet EVERY DAY looking for some poor kids death to post here to further your sick ideological death cult.
So what about the resignation of the #1 and #2 people for vaccine safety in the FDA over these shots?

Are they also just "schizo CTers"?

Are you more knowledgeable than them?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
So what about the resignation of the #1 and #2 people for vaccine safety in the FDA over these shots?

Are they also just "schizo CTers"?

Are you more knowledgeable than them?
It is interesting that they resigned specifically over the booster shots given the IG4 study and also a little recent article that popped up on CNN. Says some people who approved the bivalent booster are now claiming that they were not given complete information and they were unaware that getting the bivalent shot showed an increase in infection.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
It is interesting that they resigned specifically over the booster shots given the IG4 study and also a little recent article that popped up on CNN. Says some people who approved the bivalent booster are now claiming that they were not given complete information and they were unaware that getting the bivalent shot showed an increase in infection.
By the time boosters came around they started looking at data and wanted no part of it.

Unfortunately, the white house publicly announced there would be another EUA for boosters when the FDA did not want to give it.

So they resigned.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
There's data from europe showing non-covid excess deaths to be +16% in late '22.... some countries as high as +25%

in B4

Going to need a source on that cuz.
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I've posted lots of peer reviewed studies here on misc. Two of the tweets I just posted refer to peer reviewed studies.



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2283145v1.full




https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...2283625v1.full


The IG4 thing is from a study and has been covered by multiple people.




They found that after the third shot [the booster] that immunoglobulin makeup changed in a significant way. The type of immunoglobulin which clears the virus dropped to near zero while at the same time the type of immunoglobulin which reduces inflammation [IOW which causes the body to tolerate the virus instead of clearing it] increased from something like 0.4% to 40%.


I understand the desire for studies while attempting to understand this situation. Unfortunately the "science" has been corrupted quite badly by financial interests. Big studies require big money so small studies may be more likely overall to signal endpoints that are not desired by those who fund the big studies.

Hundreds of studies re:covid vaccine injury:
https://community.covidvaccineinjuri...cine-injuries/

You have likely heard that the guy who created the PCR test said that it should not be used to diagnose infection. Did you know that they didn't even use an isolated sample of covid to create the stupid test?



https://fos-sa.org/2021/08/02/fda-do...omething-else/
Literally the first two studies you posted are pre-print non peer reviewed. And the first one specifically states the source data is poor.

None of these show excess DEATHS are directly from the covid shots.

Do I think the vaxx are fukked? Yes. Do I want them being given to anyone at this point? No. Do I want govt to be held responsible for all of this mess? Yes.

But for all the chicken littles coming onto the misc every damn day claiming people are dropping like flies because of the vaxx are extremely tiring.

Also the IG4 thing everyone is freaking out over ... you know the reason people who are dying from covid are dying because of their own immune system overreacting to covid right? Almost no one has died directly from covid. It makes perfect sense for these 'vaccines' to target your bodies modulation reaction to covid. And directly corralates to the claim they reduce your risk of death. Not that I believe that 100%

And who knows the long term ramification of it. But its equally likely to be nothing as it is something bad. Until real data shows otherwise.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
So what about the resignation of the #1 and #2 people for vaccine safety in the FDA over these shots?

Are they also just "schizo CTers"?

Are you more knowledgeable than them?
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
It is interesting that they resigned specifically over the booster shots given the IG4 study and also a little recent article that popped up on CNN. Says some people who approved the bivalent booster are now claiming that they were not given complete information and they were unaware that getting the bivalent shot showed an increase in infection.
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
By the time boosters came around they started looking at data and wanted no part of it.

Unfortunately, the white house publicly announced there would be another EUA for boosters when the FDA did not want to give it.

So they resigned.
No one but them knows why they resigned. To my knowledge they havent come out and said it was in protest of the shots?

I dont deny the shots carry risk. And at this point I dont think the potential benefits of the shots outweigh the risks.

But quit with the fukkin CTer schizo chit. Fukkin worse than liberals by far at this point.
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Originally Posted By EgoActor⏩
proof is a red herring. a myth. it exists in the realm of mathematics. to demand proof is declaring the refusal of using one's own brain to analyze circumstance
Well we do have to work with what we can get.

The Ethical Skeptic and Edward Dowd have both come at this data from a business/finance background. And they say that the damage is real.



Link:


And here is my thinking FWIW.

Which group has an incentive to uncover good data vs. which group has an incentive to only present data which is favorable to the mrna vaccines?

IIRC Ed managed a fund for BlackRock. He and his team are launching some sort of investment fund which will be based on this data [the damage is real and here is how it will effect successful investing], vs. the pharma companies and the agencies and institutions engaged in incestuous relationships with the pharma companies.


This little interview is bigger than Coca Cola. It covers the corruption in the scientific process and how it is warping public health.

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everyday i read this stuff , every day i see vaxxed people suffer worse from COVID than i ever did, get Flu's and chest infections that i never get

i just sit back and thank fck i stayed pureblood and made sure my 15 year son did as well
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Well we do have to work with what we can get.

The Ethical Skeptic and Edward Dowd have both come at this data from a business/finance background. And they say that the damage is real.



Link:


And here is my thinking FWIW.

Which group has an incentive to uncover good data vs. which group has an incentive to only present data which is favorable to the mrna vaccines?

IIRC Ed managed a fund for BlackRock. He and his team are launching some sort of investment fund which will be based on this data [the damage is real and here is how it will effect successful investing], vs. the pharma companies and the agencies and institutions engaged in incestuous relationships with the pharma companies.


This little interview is bigger than Coca Cola. It covers the corruption in the scientific process and how it is warping public health.

Who is The Ethical Skeptic. Give me a name and credentials.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
It's a statistical fact that excess deaths are UP in nearly every country, specifically the "Died at home" category, which implies sudden.

Don't you at least find it odd that the health authorities are barely talking about it?
i find it as odd as legalizing weed..... the moment weed was legalized "die at home" among the youngsters sored
Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
why have you eliminated it from being the cause?
We know it causes myocarditis, which can be lethal, in young men

So tell me your logic on why it can’t be considered
.it can be ,but its not conclusive.... as mentioned before..... your logic could be refuted by saying.. yeah deaths sored in the last three years cause marijuana was legalized .

do you know that marijuana is known to cause tachycardia, bradycardia, hypertension, to decrease time angina, myocardial infarction and cardiac arrest? or you dont want to admit to it?
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
Going to need a source on that cuz.



Literally the first two studies you posted are pre-print non peer reviewed. And the first one specifically states the source data is poor.

None of these show excess DEATHS are directly from the covid shots.

Do I think the vaxx are fukked? Yes. Do I want them being given to anyone at this point? No. Do I want govt to be held responsible for all of this mess? Yes.

But for all the chicken littles coming onto the misc every damn day claiming people are dropping like flies because of the vaxx are extremely tiring.

Also the IG4 thing everyone is freaking out over ... you know the reason people who are dying from covid are dying because of their own immune system overreacting to covid right? Almost no one has died directly from covid. It makes perfect sense for these 'vaccines' to target your bodies modulation reaction to covid. And directly corralates to the claim they reduce your risk of death. Not that I believe that 100%

And who knows the long term ramification of it. But its equally likely to be nothing as it is something bad. Until real data shows otherwise.
I grabbed old link I had saved. I believe that the first study has been through peer review though I could be mistaken. The peer review process isn't all that it's cracked up to be IMO given that in some cases those doing the review don't have access to the original data and only see the interpretation of the data presented by the study authors.

It is easy as heck to find excess mortality data if you make any effort whatsoever.






Regarding the scale of excess mortality:

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they are now admitting that athletes are dropping dead left and right all over the place BUT it's not the covid vaccine.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Every vaxcel's argument:

Source?
Author?
Peer reviewed?
Conspiracy theory!


Imagine being that stupid just lmao
Just in case you are unaware, there is a lot of ****make believe fake chit online and we can all be duped**** if you go for the wrong links.
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bro im so done with these schizo posters. Just going to avoid all these death cult posts from now on or leave the misc.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
i find it as odd as legalizing weed..... the moment weed was legalized "die at home" among the youngsters sored




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it can be ,but its not conclusive.... as mentioned before..... your logic could be refuted by saying.. yeah deaths sored in the last three years cause marijuana was legalized .

do you know that marijuana is known to cause tachycardia, bradycardia, hypertension, to decrease time angina, myocardial infarction and cardiac arrest? or you dont want to admit to it?
was marijuana legalized in all countries that are showing excess non covid death?

If not, it must be removed from consideration.
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
No one but them knows why they resigned. To my knowledge they havent come out and said it was in protest of the shots?
They resigned because the white house over-cut them in announcing an EUA for boosters after THEY (the leading two doctors for vaccine safety) said:
If Omicron is indeed confirmed to be a major problematic variant, a specific variant-targeted booster will need to be developed. Vaccine manufacturers are reportedly already workingopens in a new tab or window on this. While there have been no safety indications to getting a booster dose to date, Paul Offit, MD, Marion Gruber, PhD, MS, and Philip Krause, MD, write in The Washington Postopens in a new tab or window:

"...'training' the immune system repeatedly on the original variant -- as the current boosters do -- may prove to be counterproductive. It could, for instance, diminish the effectiveness of a reformulated booster. In other words, for those not in immediate need of a boost, there may be an advantage to waiting until a booster more closely aligned with circulating variants becomes available."
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
was marijuana legalized in all countries that are showing excess non covid death?

If not, it must be removed from consideration.
ill play your game.... share a link of countries with excess non covid deaths "a legit link" were weed isnt legalized
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
Who is The Ethical Skeptic. Give me a name and credentials.
On TES twitter profile:

Trade Corporate & National Strategy
Postgrad Systems Science & Engineering
US Naval Intelligence
CEO
ENTX

I believe this is him, though it isn't explicitly stated. It is known that many highly qualified people have used pen names as it were to post on twitter as anything that didn't support the covid narrative was quashed.




Still illegal in most countries.




There is an OECD site you can play with if you want.

https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
ill play your game.... share a link of countries with excess non covid deaths "a legit link" were weed isnt legalized
woildnt they have to have legalized weed within the last 2 years to account for all the excess death?

If it were Legalized before that time frame, the deaths would have already be baked into the avg
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Originally Posted By Guyfawkes1010⏩
You sound and look soooo fukkin stupid when people like you say this. Its not even a question its happened way before the vaxx ever exsisted. In fact it happened more before all vaxxes existed. The real data is so scarce you have anonymous shizo bloggers being used as the source for trying to convince you its the shot.



I never eliminated the possibility of excess deaths being the shot. Im saying post actual peer reviewed studies or STFU. Im suck of all you mongloid schizo CTers coming on the misc ruining it with your bullchit doomsday vaxx bullchit every single fukkin day. You pathetic fukks scrub the internet EVERY DAY looking for some poor kids death to post here to further your sick ideological death cult.
hurr durrr…..if you want to speculate , then I need peer reviewed studies !
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Every vaxcel's argument:

Source?
Author?
Peer reviewed?
Conspiracy theory!


Imagine being that stupid just lmao
when children start to drop dead before their eyes they are still going to be asking for "valid sources"

gosh could have been anything maybe it was the climate.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
ill play your game.... share a link of countries with excess non covid deaths "a legit link" were weed isnt legalized
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So if you are not a teen( 13-19) which the majority, ARE NOT........http://www.census.gov/library/storie...0-to-2020.html

What about the rest of the "non myo" crowd?
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I'm hoping that fraud will be proven and that all those who had a hand in it will be held to account.



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I posted up a few days ago an article which claimed that covid was a US government operation. Now similar allegations are popping up elsewhere.
A BOMBSHELL new report shows that the Department of Defense controlled the COVID-19 Program from the very beginning… and everything we were told was political theater to cover it up. These documents were obtained by a former executive of a pharmaceutical Contract Research Organization Sasha Latypova.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So if you are not a teen( 13-19) which the majority, ARE NOT........http://www.census.gov/library/storie...0-to-2020.html

What about the rest of the "non myo" crowd?
There was a higher rate of myocarditis found across pretty much every age and sex category, however the largest increase was in young men.

Was the higher increase specific to young men for some biological reason or is it that the baseline for young men is so much lower that the excess was impossible to hide? I would guess there is some combination of factors.

As far as the excess all cause mortality heart related deaths have had the largest spike, but there has also been a huge increase in cancer deaths. And, no, we can't just attribute all the excess cancer to people not getting medical care for a couple of years.



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post 1674658143 01-12-2023, 09:11 AM
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Ed dowd ,ex Wall Street data guy, ran studies of working aged people

Employed vs unemployed


Excess deaths in employed were significantly higher than unemployed

Why?

Employed were mandated to get vaccinated
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Ed dowd ,ex Wall Street data guy, ran studies of working aged people

Employed vs unemployed


Excess deaths in employed were significantly higher than unemployed

Why?

Employed were mandated to get vaccinated
Oh wow if a wallstreet guy 'ran some numbers' it must be true. Also I wonder what else employed people have in common besides the shot? Oh I dont know maybe getting covid more because they are not unemployed loser schizo posters staying at home 24/7.
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