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**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION
01-11-2023, 10:58 AM
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01-11-2023, 11:56 AM
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No one has posted the most important catalyst for moving the market down this year, Venom mentioned expansion of war but I don't think that is likely, at least not on the scale that can usurp the catalyst no one has mentioned.
I really want to say it lol but you know, no free lunch lol.
I wish someone would say it so I can cosign =[.
I really want to say it lol but you know, no free lunch lol.
I wish someone would say it so I can cosign =[.
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01-11-2023, 11:59 AM
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tomorrow for CPI they have implied move of ~100 points on SP 500.
going off that SPX is at that same resistance all of 2022 that was sell off and the 200 daily moving average at spx 4000.
this does feel like rug pull is being setup / sneaky one.
if CPI is soft any rally should be sold off the days after.
if CPI is hot
boom 3850-3800 in blink of eye.
going off that SPX is at that same resistance all of 2022 that was sell off and the 200 daily moving average at spx 4000.
this does feel like rug pull is being setup / sneaky one.
if CPI is soft any rally should be sold off the days after.
if CPI is hot
boom 3850-3800 in blink of eye.
01-11-2023, 02:26 PM
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01-11-2023, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
LMAO ngmithis is lame,I have 40% of my retirement funds on the sidelines waiting to buy dips and market keeps going up.I hope jpow does 75bps to make all these arrogant cock suckers think twice before pumping
its just delaying the problem and letting the bubble get bigger and bigger
its just delaying the problem and letting the bubble get bigger and bigger
01-11-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Gotta love how the levels and events all line up.tomorrow for CPI they have implied move of ~100 points on SP 500.
going off that SPX is at that same resistance all of 2022 that was sell off and the 200 daily moving average at spx 4000.
this does feel like rug pull is being setup / sneaky one.
if CPI is soft any rally should be sold off the days after.
if CPI is hot
boom 3850-3800 in blink of eye.
going off that SPX is at that same resistance all of 2022 that was sell off and the 200 daily moving average at spx 4000.
this does feel like rug pull is being setup / sneaky one.
if CPI is soft any rally should be sold off the days after.
if CPI is hot
boom 3850-3800 in blink of eye.
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01-11-2023, 03:43 PM
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Meme stocks are back? FOMO on BBBY
01-11-2023, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Imagine what would happen if you didn't try to time the market with the other 40% and just let it compound over that same time horizon, like most wealthy people do, insteadtour isn't over yet boyo. SPY 396 is when I went cash. only did that recently when I rolled over all my funds from another employer
started thinking about it though, it wouldn't matter in the long run even if I bought in @ SPY 440 or something ridiculous at this point. I'm averaging in 26x a year from paycheck contributions and still have 20-25 years to go
started thinking about it though, it wouldn't matter in the long run even if I bought in @ SPY 440 or something ridiculous at this point. I'm averaging in 26x a year from paycheck contributions and still have 20-25 years to go
01-11-2023, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By jumpman023⏩
lulz. Till we limit down when Powell says we aren't fighting past #s we are focused on keeping future #s reasonable. FIFTY POINT HIKE MAFAKA. ACT OUTTA PLACE AND I'LL MAKE IT 75 NEXT MEETINGImagine what would happen if you didn't try to time the market with the other 40% and just let it compound over that same time horizon, like most wealthy people do, instead
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01-12-2023, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
There's something to be said for the old saying 'time in the market is more important than timing the market.' Especially for retirement funds.this is lame, I have 40% of my retirement funds on the sidelines waiting to buy dips and market keeps going up. I hope jpow does 75bps to make all these arrogant cock suckers think twice before pumping
its just delaying the problem and letting the bubble get bigger and bigger
its just delaying the problem and letting the bubble get bigger and bigger
Just think about it, the major markets are down roughly 20% right now. If that isn't a good enough time to get that money back in and start letting it work for you, it probably never will be.
There are just so many stats out there that point to not trying to time the market for long term holds. Dude, you're 20-25 years out. Get the money in there.
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01-12-2023, 06:34 AM
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CPI fell 0.1%, in line with economist expectations. The consumer price index was expected to decrease 0.1% on a monthly basis and increase 6.5% from a year ago in December, according to Dow Jones estimates.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/cons...ectations.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/cons...ectations.html
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01-12-2023, 07:25 AM
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01-12-2023, 07:48 AM
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you just keep on giving money to Citadel playing gme options.
retail gets all hyped up because of BBBY squeeze
meanwhile some fund out there is giving fuel so they can short GME from higher.
retail gets all hyped up because of BBBY squeeze
meanwhile some fund out there is giving fuel so they can short GME from higher.
01-12-2023, 08:09 AM
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looks like shelter becoming problem
apart from that inline.
nobody wins here expect Citadel
they made put and call holders burn today
apart from that inline.
nobody wins here expect Citadel
they made put and call holders burn today
01-12-2023, 08:15 AM
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01-12-2023, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
opposite of what you did.have some BBBY cc @4.00 x4 exp 1/13
if i wanted to keep the shares i would just do the opposite and do the following correct:
Sell to close
qty 4
exp 1/13
and whatever price
correct?
if i wanted to keep the shares i would just do the opposite and do the following correct:
Sell to close
qty 4
exp 1/13
and whatever price
correct?
you sold to open those calls
now you need to buy to close
01-12-2023, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
dude, this i why i double check here as well. i looked at it online like 2 minutes before i asked that here and i already forgot what i read.opposite of what you did.
you sold to open those calls
now you need to buy to close
you sold to open those calls
now you need to buy to close
thanks man.
if i buy to close at lets say 3.75, i just don't get all the premium correct?
01-12-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
wait wut 4C expiring tmmrw should not be worth that much atm.dude, this i why i double check here as well. i looked at it online like 2 minutes before i asked that here and i already forgot what i read.
thanks man.
if i buy to close at lets say 3.75, i just don't get all the premium correct?
thanks man.
if i buy to close at lets say 3.75, i just don't get all the premium correct?
what did you sell the calls for?
lets assume you sold those calls when they were $1 each.
you can buy it back now that they are OTM.
would keep the difference.
lets assume
4x CC sold for $1 each.
you got $400 for them
now you buy back at lets say $0.2 cents each so $80
you would have profit of $400-80 = $320.
01-12-2023, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By 2020Wellness⏩
See a lot of ppl celebrating and declaring "soft landing."CPI fell 0.1%, in line with economist expectations. The consumer price index was expected to decrease 0.1% on a monthly basis and increase 6.5% from a year ago in December, according to Dow Jones estimates.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/cons...ectations.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/cons...ectations.html
To the contrary, I think banks etc. want a hard landing so that fed feels forced to turn the money printers back on. Think it would almost be better if we were nosediving into a hard landing so the printers could be turned back on sooner. Instead, I think we will stagnate for a while because banks aren't going to use their own capital to prop up main street. Once we finally accept we are in a recession, money printers turn back on and it is party again.
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01-12-2023, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
i put that order in on 12/21 lol for like 4 X.20 = 80$wait wut 4C expiring tmmrw should not be worth that much atm.
what did you sell the calls for?
lets assume you sold those calls when they were $1 each.
you can buy it back now that they are OTM.
would keep the difference.
lets assume
4x CC sold for $1 each.
you got $400 for them
now you buy back at lets say $0.2 cents each so $80
you would have profit of $400-80 = $320.
what did you sell the calls for?
lets assume you sold those calls when they were $1 each.
you can buy it back now that they are OTM.
would keep the difference.
lets assume
4x CC sold for $1 each.
you got $400 for them
now you buy back at lets say $0.2 cents each so $80
you would have profit of $400-80 = $320.
i know that i'd be losing money but "what if" this pops off even more? lol
the bid is at like .34 now
just trying to game plan just in case.
01-12-2023, 09:04 AM
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Is shelter being driven mostly by rents? That can't be home prices right, and mortgage costs shouldn't be shooting up when the US has fixed rates for 25 years
Housing is one of the top targets of interest rate hikes along with autos, but I don't know if this means increased risk of more hikes or if rents are being driven upward by the higher interest rates and that means the Fed would need to ease off to bring them down
Housing is one of the top targets of interest rate hikes along with autos, but I don't know if this means increased risk of more hikes or if rents are being driven upward by the higher interest rates and that means the Fed would need to ease off to bring them down
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
ah okay.i put that order in on 12/21 lol for like 4 X.20 = 80$
i know that i'd be losing money but "what if" this pops off even more? lol
the bid is at like .34 now
just trying to game plan just in case.
i know that i'd be losing money but "what if" this pops off even more? lol
the bid is at like .34 now
just trying to game plan just in case.
just keep eye on it.
I am bit skeptical they are going to get BBBY over $4 but you never know with squeezes.
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Will see tonight when articles come out.Is shelter being driven mostly by rents? That can't be home prices right, and mortgage costs shouldn't be shooting up when the US has fixed rates for 25 years
Housing is one of the top targets of interest rate hikes along with autos, but I don't know if this means increased risk of more hikes or if rents are being driven upward by the higher interest rates and that means the Fed would need to ease off to bring them down
Housing is one of the top targets of interest rate hikes along with autos, but I don't know if this means increased risk of more hikes or if rents are being driven upward by the higher interest rates and that means the Fed would need to ease off to bring them down
I would guess its rents as well.
01-12-2023, 09:30 AM
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Vix sub 20 ho lee
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01-12-2023, 10:08 AM
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only winner today is premium sellers
unreal theta crush
might be one of the biggest theta crushes in years.
CPI hype was insane
all you got is pure potato.
lmaooo at run netflix is having going into earnings.
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unreal theta crush
might be one of the biggest theta crushes in years.
CPI hype was insane
all you got is pure potato.
lmaooo at run netflix is having going into earnings.
skeptical hippo.jpeg
01-12-2023, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Sold my sofi CCs for next week. Hoping it stays above $5 cuz I’m hodling my Feb $5 CSP and April $4 CSP. My CSP don’t seem to be getting theta crushed… queue the epic selloff. Someone knows somethingonly winner today is premium sellers
unreal theta crush
might be one of the biggest theta crushes in years.
CPI hype was insane
all you got is pure potato.
lmaooo at run netflix is having going into earnings.
skeptical hippo.jpeg
unreal theta crush
might be one of the biggest theta crushes in years.
CPI hype was insane
all you got is pure potato.
lmaooo at run netflix is having going into earnings.
skeptical hippo.jpeg
Jk no one knows anything.
In other news Sbux Feb puts weren’t the play.
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01-12-2023, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Just under 20% up in the next year would be OK. Down that much would be cool too.Vix sub 20 ho lee
I'm hoping for continued similar prices or decline, personally.
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01-12-2023, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
They’ll probably do very well once people are refinancing their student loans again. People taking out loans right now are gonna have Yuge interest rates.Wonder what happens with SOFI end of January when the announce Q4/2022 results, would be sweet if they broke $8 again
Edit: just noticed now too the USD getting wrecked wat.
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01-12-2023, 11:22 AM
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USD is getting steam rolled
BTC Pumping
Meme names pumping
Yields diving
SP 500 over 200 DMA
Suspect stuff atm but don't ever short slow moving market it can grind higher till they decide to take profit.
Momentum is with buyers.
Trying to get in front of it will hurt.
Better to join ride (feels late atm) or wait till it starts to go other way.
BTC Pumping
Meme names pumping
Yields diving
SP 500 over 200 DMA
Suspect stuff atm but don't ever short slow moving market it can grind higher till they decide to take profit.
Momentum is with buyers.
Trying to get in front of it will hurt.
Better to join ride (feels late atm) or wait till it starts to go other way.
01-12-2023, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Read about the new program guidelines they're releasing. They're VERY forgiving and income-based. Some will qualify for payments of $0.00 per month, srs.If Biden keeps on extending the student loan moratorium SOFI won't benefit though. It "ends" in June this year but this fuker will probably extend it again to 2024 elections lmao
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01-12-2023, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
afrm has been my monthly cash cow with puts...UPST and AFRM are up 25% and 33% or so after the past few days.. thinking of long dated puts
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