01-27-2023, 02:38 PM
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It's not my job, or your job, or any vaxcel's job to determine if the vaccine is safe. That burden falls on regulatory bodies and the vaccine manufacturer, which they have clearly failed to do, under Trump's watch.
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01-27-2023, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
confounding brahOnly in trials for all age groups. In real world data shared in early summer 2021 by the UK measurable differences were only in people over 50 yrs old. But since Omicron the more mRNA jabs someone has the more likely to get infected they are. The people promoting boosters still now must apologize to the world for causing more infections. The Covidians bought into literally hundreds of lies and tyrannical actions without an ounce of skepticism. Any apology from them must include a pledge to be more skeptical of Big Pharma and to acknowledge they were **** for brains by dismissing treatments like NAC, which had dozens of studies showing it was effective at lessening disease severity.
Depending on the source Ivermectin is marginally to massively effective at treating Covid. The Covidian apology must include apologizing about Ivermectin. Even if it did very little, it's one of the safest drugs in history and costs $5 for a treatment cycle. The worst that could have happened if it was commonly used would have been some placebo effects. An apology must include they were bamboozled by lib media calling it "horse paste" and acknowledgement that hospitals firing doctors for prescribing such a safe and cheap drug is EXTREMELY suspect.
I need an apology for the mask naziism.
I need an apology for going along with the dumbass rules at restaurants with masks. I need people to admit they were dumb for believing the 6 ft rule when the virus was known as airborne early on in 2020.
I need people who think all of the deaths with Covid were deaths from Covid to get sterilized.
And most of all I need an apology for the damage done to kids.
I need at least all of the above or forgiveness will never be had.You were the baddies. You were the brownshirts. You claimed science but pissed in the face of it.
Depending on the source Ivermectin is marginally to massively effective at treating Covid. The Covidian apology must include apologizing about Ivermectin. Even if it did very little, it's one of the safest drugs in history and costs $5 for a treatment cycle. The worst that could have happened if it was commonly used would have been some placebo effects. An apology must include they were bamboozled by lib media calling it "horse paste" and acknowledgement that hospitals firing doctors for prescribing such a safe and cheap drug is EXTREMELY suspect.
I need an apology for the mask naziism.
I need an apology for going along with the dumbass rules at restaurants with masks. I need people to admit they were dumb for believing the 6 ft rule when the virus was known as airborne early on in 2020.
I need people who think all of the deaths with Covid were deaths from Covid to get sterilized.
And most of all I need an apology for the damage done to kids.
I need at least all of the above or forgiveness will never be had.You were the baddies. You were the brownshirts. You claimed science but pissed in the face of it.
nope no apologies
masks work, vaccines work, ivm doesn't work
nope
u don't know what science is and ur going along with political views and fringe pseudoscience masquerading as science
none of the snake oil peddled (hcq, ivm etc) did anything to help vs covid
ab therapy helps but is reactive while vaccines are proactive
the entire debate is stupid and a reminder of how uneducated and worthless the population is
01-27-2023, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By ltsOgre⏩
Trump was the only Western world leader who didn't want to shut down the Country over the Covaids sniffles. Libcucks blame Trump for the Vaccine they so love to push on everyone. I don't understand the hatred for Trump, nor the stupidity of Vax pushers.It's not my job, or your job, or any vaxcel's job to determine if the vaccine is safe. That burden falls on regulatory bodies and the vaccine manufacturer, which they have clearly failed to do, under Trump's watch.
01-27-2023, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
But I thought Malone invented it in the late 80's. Wouldn't that be at least 30 years?The irony of thinking time doesn't matter when long-term effects are dependent on the length of time of the trials.....
Check yourself before you point fingers and call others "stupid" cause they don't agree with you...

Check yourself before you point fingers and call others "stupid" cause they don't agree with you...

01-27-2023, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
Hilarious.... It's now "trumps vaccine" to them when it turns out to be more harmful than helpful.Trump was the only Western world leader who didn't want to shut down the Country over the Covaids sniffles. Libcucks blame Trump for the Vaccine they so love to push on everyone. I don't understand the hatred for Trump, nor the stupidity of Vax pushers.
01-27-2023, 02:50 PM
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Yawn,
Eagles or 49ers?
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Welcome to 2023 people
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01-27-2023, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Oh yeah.... Please stop talking about the biggest and most obvious scam people like me fell for!Yawn,
Eagles or 49ers?
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01-27-2023, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By 4Bertuzzi4⏩
What if metrics other than death are considered?JFLOL, there is no way to prove whether a vaccinated person would live or die from covid if they were not vaccinated.
It is all cope. From what I've seen, vaxxed are getting sicker and repeatedly getting Covaids, while non-vaxxed have gotten it once, and it was barely a mild cold.
Cope
It is all cope. From what I've seen, vaxxed are getting sicker and repeatedly getting Covaids, while non-vaxxed have gotten it once, and it was barely a mild cold.
Cope
Symptoms and medical visits post infection?
Pregancy outcomes?
It sounds like you have some good data to support the claim, can you share it?
01-27-2023, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Yawn, do my hippa, personal medical choices affect you or your life in any way?Oh yeah.... Please stop talking about the biggest and most obvious scam people like me fell for!
I would argue no........ because *i never gave a flying fk**what you chose to do with your body.
You live in AZ and i live in DC, so why would i ever care what you chose?
cliffs: never cared
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
oh sorry, I thought you lived in cali.Yawn, do my hippa, personal medical choices affect you or your life in any way?
I would argue no........ because *i never gave a flying fk**what you chose to do with your body.
You live in AZ and i live in DC, so why would i ever care what you chose?
cliffs: never cared
I would argue no........ because *i never gave a flying fk**what you chose to do with your body.
You live in AZ and i live in DC, so why would i ever care what you chose?
cliffs: never cared
I'd rope if I lived in DC.
01-27-2023, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Well i work out, so i don't run around concerned about minor things like location.oh sorry, I thought you lived in cali.
I'd rope if I lived in DC.
I'd rope if I lived in DC.
And....................... i still never cared what other people did regarding medical decisions.
It's your body, you do you!
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01-27-2023, 03:02 PM
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Even most doctors fell for that ****. Hard to blame the regular NPCs if even "studied and expert" NPCs fell for it. Honestly i just see most people as subhumans, just projections of my consciousness, couldnt care less for an apology or an explanation
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
because there's a paper shortage, so they can't keep tracking the numbers.Why would they stop publishing those numbers?

01-27-2023, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Yes, it's very difficult times right now for keeping track of data.Must be from manufacturing all that toilet paper that people hoarded up!

01-27-2023, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Mortality wasn't an endpoint in any of the 3 phases of the Pfizer trials.Interesting how you ignored over half of his post to try and inject your relevancy into this thread.
Also interesting how you think that a vaccine is not meant to prevent people from dying from the disease.
But it is expected of course, since death rates for the triple vaccinated were the same (or worse) as the death rates for the unvaccinated, as shown by beavercel real world data.
And before you ask for source, feel free to look for it. You won't find it, since the same government that you were on board with to post factually incorrect information, has decided to stop publishing the numbers.
Here is the question for you, if you want to engage in an intellectually honest conversation.
Why would they stop publishing those numbers?
Also interesting how you think that a vaccine is not meant to prevent people from dying from the disease.
But it is expected of course, since death rates for the triple vaccinated were the same (or worse) as the death rates for the unvaccinated, as shown by beavercel real world data.
And before you ask for source, feel free to look for it. You won't find it, since the same government that you were on board with to post factually incorrect information, has decided to stop publishing the numbers.
Here is the question for you, if you want to engage in an intellectually honest conversation.
Why would they stop publishing those numbers?

mRNA vaccines have been under development for more than the 10-15 years miscers insist is required.
Governments need(ed) covid to be over, so reporting of cases and testing have slowed tremendously.
Can you share the referenced data to facilitate discussion?
01-27-2023, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
the reason it usually takes that long is because they often dont have the resources to do testing and development at the rate they did with covid.The irony of thinking time doesn't matter when long-term effects are dependent on the length of time of the trials.....
Check yourself before you point fingers and call others "stupid" cause they don't agree with you...

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they dont just wait for no fuking reason you idiot. its because they usually dont have the ability to go faster, which they did with covid
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I'm LOLing at how triggered you are...the reason it usually takes that long is because they often dont have the resources to do testing and development at the rate they did with covid.
they dont just wait for no fuking reason you idiot. its because they usually dont have the ability to go faster, which they did with covid
they dont just wait for no fuking reason you idiot. its because they usually dont have the ability to go faster, which they did with covid
Everything I post is satire.
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01-27-2023, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It's gotta be Cornell.Quoting this post to show the quality of an Ivy League education these days.

01-27-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So here is the key part of the quoted post...
Thanks for confirming that you are not interested in an intellectually honest discussion.
Thanks for confirming that you are not interested in an intellectually honest discussion.

Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Is there any reviewable support for the claim that infection is "better" than vaccination, for everyone?Governments need(ed) covid to be over, so reporting of cases and testing have slowed tremendously.
Can you share the referenced data to facilitate discussion?
Can you share the referenced data to facilitate discussion?
Several data sets have been mentioned in this thread, but none have been shared for review by all parties.
01-27-2023, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Nah bro don't revise history, instead ask yourself 1 question.

Why would i care if some troll from Canada lives or dies?
We are not friends, he doesn't add to the discussions, and as far as i can tell does not lift or talk about bodybuilding?
I would **need a real reason to care** about what he does and whether he lives?
As Dolf Lundgren said, "if he dies he dies"
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01-27-2023, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
He's actually trying to bury it.... Not necessarily revise it.I'm not revising history, you are.

01-27-2023, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Okay. So you won't be sharing the data that shows vaccines are bad?I gave you a chance at an intellectually honest discussion, and you decided to be intellectually dishonest right off the bat, posting three points that are completely irrelevant, and now following up with a question that is even more irrelevant.
Shame on me for giving you a chance. But thanks for showing everyone who you are as a person, once again.
Shame on me for giving you a chance. But thanks for showing everyone who you are as a person, once again.

I attempted to engage in the discussion. Governments are responsible for reporting. I guess that challenges the narrative and is therefore dishonest?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I never cared about others( yes selfish but they dont impact me), just my immediate family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I gave you a chance at an intellectually honest discussion, and you decided to be intellectually dishonest right off the bat, posting three points that are completely irrelevant, and now following up with a question that is even more irrelevant.
Shame on me for giving you a chance. But thanks for showing everyone who you are as a person, once again.
Nah bro.
You literally went off at people who you thought were "not doing their part" in the past.
I'm not revising history, you are.
Shame on me for giving you a chance. But thanks for showing everyone who you are as a person, once again.

Nah bro.
You literally went off at people who you thought were "not doing their part" in the past.
I'm not revising history, you are.

Capiche?
You are such a fkn liar, and i hate fkn liars!
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01-27-2023, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
It's your business and i have remained consistent on this topic.He's actually trying to bury it.... Not necessarily revise it.
You can ramble like grandpa for the next 10 years, not my business.
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01-27-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
He won't be. Because said data does not exist.Okay. So you won't be sharing the data that shows vaccines are bad?
01-27-2023, 03:35 PM
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01-27-2023, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You said vaccinated folks die more. Can you share the data?Add an irrelevant strawman to the three irrelevant points and the irrelevant question.
Feel free to quote a post of mine that says "vaccines are bad".
I just called you out for being intellectually dishonest, and you are doubling down on being intellectually dishonest, three posts in a row.
Just LOL.
I won't be. Because I never even alluded to something like that.
Feel free to quote a post of mine that says "vaccines are bad".
I just called you out for being intellectually dishonest, and you are doubling down on being intellectually dishonest, three posts in a row.
Just LOL.

I won't be. Because I never even alluded to something like that.

01-27-2023, 03:37 PM
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It's funny how anti-vax make threads about the vaccine supporters all the time , yet rarely any vaccine supporters make any threads about anti-vaxxers.
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01-27-2023, 03:38 PM
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The premise of the thread is that anyone who received a vaccines is supposed to apologize to people who didn't receive a vaccine.
My question is why?
Did those who received a vaccine cause harm to those who didn't receive a vaccine?
My question is why?
Did those who received a vaccine cause harm to those who didn't receive a vaccine?
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