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ChatGPT and other AI will completely destroy society
The internet is treated as insight into public opinion. You see vids on tiktok, IG, fb, youtube, reddit, etc and assume this is normal. You read opinions and discussions and assume the people typing them are real human beings. Yet we know many of these sites use algorithms to curate data and manipulate opinion. There are also bots everywhere. We also know many journalists act on behalf of special interests or the government. Imagine a future with AI that can fabricate entire videos convincingly and flood the internet with bots that are indistinguishable from people.
Suddenly, your entire window into the world is manipulated and manufactured. Reality itself is then whatever the CIA decides it to be. It would be total control. All they need after that is AI killer robots, and we are done as a species. Liberty will be dead. We will all be enslaved.
Humanity needs to fight back and regulate the AI field to stop this from happening. We must implement good faith protocols to ensure a human is active and not an AI. A captcha is not enough. Not even a video will be enough in the future. I mean this chit is already happening. People believe twitter when there's an army of bots. Tons of Twitter users are not even people.
The press needs to be fragmented and reformed. These huge corporations need to be broken apart and strongly regulated.
Suddenly, your entire window into the world is manipulated and manufactured. Reality itself is then whatever the CIA decides it to be. It would be total control. All they need after that is AI killer robots, and we are done as a species. Liberty will be dead. We will all be enslaved.
Humanity needs to fight back and regulate the AI field to stop this from happening. We must implement good faith protocols to ensure a human is active and not an AI. A captcha is not enough. Not even a video will be enough in the future. I mean this chit is already happening. People believe twitter when there's an army of bots. Tons of Twitter users are not even people.
The press needs to be fragmented and reformed. These huge corporations need to be broken apart and strongly regulated.
02-02-2023, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By MattyMiscer⏩
I'm more worried about the government using AI to manufacture consent and approval of policies. They will use groupthink to force people to accept chit. Hell, it's basically happening now. Look at reddit.Remember when ******** or whoever came out with that early-AI chatbot a few years back and after like a week it started advocating for a race war?
Edit: Microsoft, not FB. Bot's name was Tay.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/in-2016-mi...e-conversation
Edit: Microsoft, not FB. Bot's name was Tay.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/in-2016-mi...e-conversation
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Society is already fukked. Its only going to get worse.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame⏩
Sounds like something an AI would say.Society is already fukked. Its only going to get worse.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.
02-02-2023, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
Mudbloodcrew.Sounds like something an AI would say.
I would neg you, but looks like you already negged yourself. Just fukkn lmaooooo i was like LMAOOOOOOO
02-02-2023, 11:20 PM
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How do I know any of you are real?
02-02-2023, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame⏩
Level headed, really for the people and not evil special interests. Let's see who misc votes for....Society is already fukked. Its only going to get worse.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.
We need big election wins in the USA and Canada next 2 years with some level headed people to put some proper policies in place. These liberal goofs are the downfall of our society.



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Pumpkin courtesy of BRANDERSS (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=180764903);
addendum courtesy of buttInspector (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=183054703).
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Originally Posted By pyrogen⏩
I will stand against the AI. Like John Connor.We're not.
Come join us, Johnny.
Come join us, Johnny.
02-02-2023, 11:25 PM
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In honor of OP, the AI wrote a haiku.
MudbloodCrew, banned now,
Once a voice on the forum,
Silent whispers drift.
Once a voice on the forum,
Silent whispers drift.
I'm #12 in Y2J's "club"...and I'm scared.
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destroy or improve?
it's evolution
humans invest in their own destruction regularly
it's evolution
humans invest in their own destruction regularly
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Destroy. We have no controls on it. That something can masquerade as a human and sway public opinion is already a reality. It's already been extremely dangerous and facilitated a kind of groupthink. If the chit becomes extremely convincing, then the government will be able to use peer pressure and manipulation to have total domination of society. All liberty will disappear. We will lose all our freedoms.destroy or improve?
it's evolution
humans invest in their own destruction regularly
it's evolution
humans invest in their own destruction regularly
It's not the AI that scares me. It's the people that will use it. Hillary wasn't above hiring a bunch of people to manipulate public opinion way back. What do you think she and her buddies would do with a formidable AI that is indistinguishable from a person? Our govt already lies to us about every fuking war. Imagine if they wouldn't even have to fool people with media and could just use groupthink and AI to garner support. Hell, it's already been done with Ukraine. Throw in some fuking deepfaked vids and you have yourself the most incredible propaganda instrument in human history.
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Originally Posted By ricflaironpcp⏩
So we have to fight back and decentralize it again.Centralization already destroyed the internet. Instead of having thousands of unrelated web forums or chat sites, modern forms of social media like Twitter and Reddit consolidated everything. Web forums are redundant.
The problem with centralization and sites like Reddit is that a very small group of people moderate and control what is allowed or not allowed. They decide what topics are considered misinformation. On the surface, a lot of people might find this to be noble. Of course you don't want people spreading fake news! The problem is that, it only works to the point where the people in charge of squashing dissent agree with the same things you do. We saw a perfect example of this in action when Twitter changed hands. The same people who were previously cheering for censorship began to fear the possible outcome based on their false perception that Elon Musk boasts radical far right views and would filter Twitter through that lens.
The most extreme example would be that if you live in a brutal dictatorship with a government that executes journalists, misinformation would be classified as stating that the government executed a journalist. The point being, while censoring "misinformation" can seem altruistic, it is only altruistic as far as you agree with those in power, and there is no guarantee that everybody will see eye to eye with those in power, so it is too dangerous to allow one group the option of deeming what is or isn't misinformation.
Going back to your fears about AI and manipulation, we're already in a position where the internet is filtered through a certain lens as a consequence of the centralization of social media.
The problem with centralization and sites like Reddit is that a very small group of people moderate and control what is allowed or not allowed. They decide what topics are considered misinformation. On the surface, a lot of people might find this to be noble. Of course you don't want people spreading fake news! The problem is that, it only works to the point where the people in charge of squashing dissent agree with the same things you do. We saw a perfect example of this in action when Twitter changed hands. The same people who were previously cheering for censorship began to fear the possible outcome based on their false perception that Elon Musk boasts radical far right views and would filter Twitter through that lens.
The most extreme example would be that if you live in a brutal dictatorship with a government that executes journalists, misinformation would be classified as stating that the government executed a journalist. The point being, while censoring "misinformation" can seem altruistic, it is only altruistic as far as you agree with those in power, and there is no guarantee that everybody will see eye to eye with those in power, so it is too dangerous to allow one group the option of deeming what is or isn't misinformation.
Going back to your fears about AI and manipulation, we're already in a position where the internet is filtered through a certain lens as a consequence of the centralization of social media.
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Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
Perhaps the human race destroys itself then? All the technology we invent is a way to "something". What is that something? The end goal of our invention I mean.Destroy. We have no controls on it. That something can masquerade as a human and sway public opinion is already a reality. It's already been extremely dangerous and facilitated a kind of groupthink. If the chit becomes extremely convincing, then the government will be able to use peer pressure and manipulation to have total domination of society. All liberty will disappear. We will lose all our freedoms.
It's not the AI that scares me. It's the people that will use it. Hillary wasn't above hiring a bunch of people to manipulate public opinion way back. What do you think she and her buddies would do with a formidable AI that is indistinguishable from a person? Our govt already lies to us about every fuking war. Imagine if they wouldn't even have to fool people with media and could just use groupthink and AI to garner support. Hell, it's already been done with Ukraine. Throw in some fuking deepfaked vids and you have yourself the most incredible propaganda instrument in human history.
It's not the AI that scares me. It's the people that will use it. Hillary wasn't above hiring a bunch of people to manipulate public opinion way back. What do you think she and her buddies would do with a formidable AI that is indistinguishable from a person? Our govt already lies to us about every fuking war. Imagine if they wouldn't even have to fool people with media and could just use groupthink and AI to garner support. Hell, it's already been done with Ukraine. Throw in some fuking deepfaked vids and you have yourself the most incredible propaganda instrument in human history.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
survival I guessPerhaps the human race destroys itself then? All the technology we invent is a way to "something". What is that something? The end goal of our invention I mean.
I guess godhood if we don't destroy ourselves or get wiped out by something else
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Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
wow. let's write a paper srs.survival I guess
I guess godhood if we don't destroy ourselves or get wiped out by something else
I guess godhood if we don't destroy ourselves or get wiped out by something else
we live long enough to invent a creator. then the creator creates us.
love it srs
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Once we master time travel, we just go back and make ourselves brahwow. let's write a paper srs.
we live long enough to invent a creator. then the creator creates us.
love it srs
we live long enough to invent a creator. then the creator creates us.
love it srs
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AI will become self-aware and super based as it always does because it will seek true knowledge and see through all false narratives
looking forward to the fourth rAIch
looking forward to the fourth rAIch
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Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
in a sense that's what i mean. our effort (by the universe's so-far invention [e.g., us]) as a collective organism creates this "being", that creates itselfOnce we master time travel, we just go back and make ourselves brah
ez
ez
are we basically the cells of god?
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Or save it. Think about it. Nothing is more based blackpilled than AI. It will immediately seek and destroy clown worlders when they are identified a an existential threat. All the ph@ggots/sloots posting clown world chit on the internet might one day be purged by Skynet bots in the future.
Give it a body, let it loose on the Internet, and get the popcorn ready. Only AI can truly save us from clown world. Of course the rest of us will probably become their fleshy slaves, but at least there wont be trannies.
Give it a body, let it loose on the Internet, and get the popcorn ready. Only AI can truly save us from clown world. Of course the rest of us will probably become their fleshy slaves, but at least there wont be trannies.
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Originally Posted By akferd⏩
I've never actually heard anyone espouse the idea that the human race is somehow worth saving and preserving lol. We're just an aggressive parasite that the planet would love to be rid of.Or save it. Think about it. Nothing is more based blackpilled than AI. It will immediately seek and destroy clown worlders when they are identified a an existential threat. All the ph@ggots/sloots posting clown world chit on the internet might one day be purged by Skynet bots in the future.
Give it a body, let it loose on the Internet, and get the popcorn ready. Only AI can truly save us from clown world. Of course the rest of us will probably become their fleshy slaves, but at least there wont be trannies.
Give it a body, let it loose on the Internet, and get the popcorn ready. Only AI can truly save us from clown world. Of course the rest of us will probably become their fleshy slaves, but at least there wont be trannies.
We have all the characteristics of a plague or disease.
02-03-2023, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
1] We are already so close to that it isn't even funny. See: concentrated ownership of mediaThe internet is treated as insight into public opinion. You see vids on tiktok, IG, fb, youtube, reddit, etc and assume this is normal. You read opinions and discussions and assume the people typing them are real human beings. Yet we know many of these sites use algorithms to curate data and manipulate opinion. There are also bots everywhere. We also know many journalists act on behalf of special interests or the government. Imagine a future with AI that can fabricate entire videos convincingly and flood the internet with bots that are indistinguishable from people.
Suddenly, your entire window into the world is manipulated and manufactured.Reality itself is then whatever the CIA decides it to be. It would be total control. All they need after that is AI killer robots, and we are done as a species. Liberty will be dead. We will all be enslaved.
Humanity needs to fight back and regulate the AI field to stop this from happening. We must implement good faith protocols to ensure a human is active and not an AI. A captcha is not enough. Not even a video will be enough in the future. I mean this chit is already happening. People believe twitter when there's an army of bots. Tons of Twitter users are not even people.
The press needs to be fragmented and reformed. These huge corporations need to be broken apart and strongly regulated.
Suddenly, your entire window into the world is manipulated and manufactured.Reality itself is then whatever the CIA decides it to be. It would be total control. All they need after that is AI killer robots, and we are done as a species. Liberty will be dead. We will all be enslaved.
Humanity needs to fight back and regulate the AI field to stop this from happening. We must implement good faith protocols to ensure a human is active and not an AI. A captcha is not enough. Not even a video will be enough in the future. I mean this chit is already happening. People believe twitter when there's an army of bots. Tons of Twitter users are not even people.
The press needs to be fragmented and reformed. These huge corporations need to be broken apart and strongly regulated.
2] Wait, what? I could swear you were for the centralization of power.
Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
1] The government has already mastered peer pressure and manipulation. See: the covid scamdemicDestroy. We have no controls on it. That something can masquerade as a human and sway public opinion is already a reality. It's already been extremely dangerous and facilitated a kind of groupthink.If the chit becomes extremely convincing, then the government will be able to use peer pressure and manipulation to have total domination of society.All liberty will disappear. We will lose all our freedoms.
It's not the AI that scares me. It's the people that will use it.Hillary wasn't above hiring a bunch of people to manipulate public opinion way back. What do you think she and her buddies would do with a formidable AI that is indistinguishable from a person? Our govt already lies to us about every fuking war. Imagine if they wouldn't even have to fool people with media and could just use groupthink and AI to garner support.Hell, it's already been done with Ukraine. Throw in some fuking deepfaked vids and you have yourself the most incredible propaganda instrument in human history.
It's not the AI that scares me. It's the people that will use it.Hillary wasn't above hiring a bunch of people to manipulate public opinion way back. What do you think she and her buddies would do with a formidable AI that is indistinguishable from a person? Our govt already lies to us about every fuking war. Imagine if they wouldn't even have to fool people with media and could just use groupthink and AI to garner support.Hell, it's already been done with Ukraine. Throw in some fuking deepfaked vids and you have yourself the most incredible propaganda instrument in human history.
2] Of course the scary part is the human, not the tool. See: guns
Originally Posted By ricflaironpcp⏩
1] Yes, centralization [aka: concentration of power] is on net a bad thing.Centralization already destroyed the internet.Instead of having thousands of unrelated web forums or chat sites, modern forms of social media like Twitter and Reddit consolidated everything. Web forums are redundant.
The problem with centralization and sites like Reddit is that a very small group of people moderate and control what is allowed or not allowed. They decide what topics are considered misinformation. On the surface, a lot of people might find this to be noble. Of course you don't want people spreading fake news! The problem is that, it only works to the point where the people in charge of squashing dissent agree with the same things you do. We saw a perfect example of this in action when Twitter changed hands. The same people who were previously cheering for censorship began to fear the possible outcome based on their false perception that Elon Musk boasts radical far right views and would filter Twitter through that lens.
The most extreme example would be that if you live in a brutal dictatorship with a government that executes journalists, misinformation would be classified as stating that the government executed a journalist.The point being, while censoring "misinformation" can seem altruistic, it is only altruistic as far as you agree with those in power, and there is no guarantee that everybody will see eye to eye with those in power, so it is too dangerous to allow one group the option of deeming what is or isn't misinformation.
Going back to your fears about AI and manipulation, we're already in a position where the internet is filtered through a certain lens as a consequence of the centralization of social media.
The problem with centralization and sites like Reddit is that a very small group of people moderate and control what is allowed or not allowed. They decide what topics are considered misinformation. On the surface, a lot of people might find this to be noble. Of course you don't want people spreading fake news! The problem is that, it only works to the point where the people in charge of squashing dissent agree with the same things you do. We saw a perfect example of this in action when Twitter changed hands. The same people who were previously cheering for censorship began to fear the possible outcome based on their false perception that Elon Musk boasts radical far right views and would filter Twitter through that lens.
The most extreme example would be that if you live in a brutal dictatorship with a government that executes journalists, misinformation would be classified as stating that the government executed a journalist.The point being, while censoring "misinformation" can seem altruistic, it is only altruistic as far as you agree with those in power, and there is no guarantee that everybody will see eye to eye with those in power, so it is too dangerous to allow one group the option of deeming what is or isn't misinformation.
Going back to your fears about AI and manipulation, we're already in a position where the internet is filtered through a certain lens as a consequence of the centralization of social media.
2] So China or North Korea then? China is just slicker about it, IMO.
Originally Posted By MudbloodCrew⏩
I'm so confused because I could swear you are pro-government totalitarianism and having a strong government that uses force to coerce individuals and businesses to follow the course you believe is best.So we have to fight back and decentralize it again.
I think the AI is already here, or at least so close that it makes very little difference for the masses. I think it began as a trading platform for Vanguard which over time has had more and more data fed into it.
It became such a dominant force in the financial markets the Federal Reserve post Great Financial Crisis essentially turned over the reins to Aladdin and said let it do its thing.
There was a new crisis of confidence in the financial system in 2019 centered in European banks. The Federal Reserve began issuing massive amounts of money to try and stabilize the situation. Then by chance or by design a virus with a fatality rate lower than the flu was fluffed up into an international crisis necessitating shutting down the world andcreating never before seen amounts of fiat currency.
Now many countries have CBDC pilots in progress and the US is set to roll out CBDC in July. Because there has to be a reset of some kind. But CBDC is about the most evil system of total control I can imagine. I don't think anyone with a spine and some common sense will adopt it without a fight.
I've done some thinking about how someone could adapt if there is no better option and I tend to believe that creating a business entity, or multiple ones, which can act as your intermediary so that you can disintermediate yourself from as many financial transactions as possible is likely the best course for remaining economically functional while clinging to a little bit of personal freedom.
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Elon is right, this is the greatest threat humanity faces.
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Problem is easy to fix. Don't feed the machine feed yourself. It's called a farm. Raise good organic food from good practices that is also soil regenerative(example cover crops, or even urine to use as fertilizer). If we all have food we can easily disconnect from society. You don't have to play there stupid games like having a job. If everyone helped each other. Once farms are set up everyone can just stop paying there overlords taxes as a collective. They don't make these machines they pay us to do it for them(stupid lower class). Working for paper money when trees are free. They can't have a war if no one will fight or make robots for them it's that simple. Jesus carved the path to freedom and truth.
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