We can't even explain stars or know what they are.

The entire premise of "space" is 100% a complete theoretical idea based on something called dark matter. Literally everything you have been propagandized into believing about space from teachers, movies and guys in lab coats with a little badge is based off of something they made up with zero proof, ability to measure or see, and is a complete guess. Yet somehow it is given to you as the truth.

As Blissful has said, it is obvious this world was designed. We don't know what space is. We don't know anything about other planets.

People are so broken that they literally believe a robot made it to Mars because they saw a cgi video game edit of a robot dropping down onto said planet. Go watch a video of the current heliocentric model and explain how we can do anything within space at any capacity. Their lies are catching up to them thanks to the internet.

200 years ago they thought the flu was caused by ghosts in your blood. You would have been that guy talking about how idiots are believing in "viruses". How hard is it to say you don't know? I know that I don't know, do you?

“It’s so complex to be random - thus something even more complex must have made it all.”

Lowest IQ argument ever.

Atheist-“Hey man, wanna see a car get built”

Logical Human-Sure, I’ll take a look, where are you going to do it?

Atheist-“Oh not me, it’s just gonna kinda happen..like, over time..you know.”

Logical human-Umm, not really but okay

Atheist-“yea, yeah, you’ll see, it just takes time bro, these things just happen”

L.H.-Oh, okay, so where’s the car?

Atheist “what? Right here, see all that stuff on the ground”

L.H.-Well, I see some wires that look like they maybe go to that headlight, but the bulb is over there, I see some screws that look like they go to that oil pan, but the tubbing is way over there, I see a hubcap that doesn’t fit that tire..but where’s all the parts for the engine, the coil overs, the shocks, the other tires, I mean, where’s the whole car?

Atheist-“Dude, that stuff we’ll get in time”

L.H.-Oh, you are gonna go buy it, or make it?

Atheist-“Huh..LoL, no man, it’s just gonna appear like..from space”

LH-Oh, okay, so who is gonna put it all together?

Anti-“Dude, it’s like I said, it will just happen by itself..in time..”

LH-Dude..that’s not possible

Atheist -“Yea man, how do you think all those other cars you see got here, like how we ALL got here..?”

LH-Well they got here because someone designed all those parts, used the correct tools, had them engineered together perfectly, and then finally designed machines that put those thousands of parts together for all of us..

Atheist-“Yea man, like all that is gonna happen, we just need time & no interference..

Logical Human-“Well I’m gonna go to the dealership and buy a car that someone already built & put together..

Atheist-“Cool bro, I’ll see you in a few billion years, & maybe I’ll have some more parts..”

And this is your modern day atheist.

Except humans don't have discreet parts. Everything looks melded together from the same shyt. It makes more sense that we evolved than that we were designed. Because if we were designed, the designer was a shytty engineer. I can forgive evolution for fuking shyt up. But an all knowing creator doesn't have an excuse.

we are designed perfectly for our existence..we are designed to have limitations..we are not designed to be a comic book hero..despite what Marvel wants to sell you..we are not, nor ever have been "evolving" in the Darwinian model

Our knees wear out by 50 years old. Yet Noah lived to be 900. So wheelchair he must have been rocking
Humans stopped evolving when retards stopped dying en mass due to science and technology.

because of the flood..radiation breaks down the body..it was believed (by many in the Scientific Community as well) that earth had an additional "sphere" that encompasses it. You know of the several now..Hemisphere, Stratosphere, Ionosphere..it is believed that there use to be a thin large canopy of water that encompassed the earth that would negate/tremendously slow the aging of humans/life..when this broke, the Flood happened (which btw every living civilization at the time has a record of, I can go through them all..) is when aging and life span shortened..which would make perfect sense looking at the history of the earth and man

Space travel is possible, we reached the moon and then gave up in favour of Johnson's Great Society and safety concerns. Both of which are primarily female driven.

Lol another one of those threads where people try to logically defend their faith and just dismiss the evolution theory altogether.

Darwinian Evolution has no evidence supporting it. Much of what is usually attributed to mutations in the nature is simply adaptation, and that adaptation has today a name, EPIGENETICS. It is a system that does not change the DNA, it regulates gene-expression and does not need those millions of years to do it. In fact a good example of epigenetic adaptation are the Galapagos finches. It was supposed until recently that changes in the size and form of their beaks required time periods typical to the Darwinian explanation, observations have however confirmed that the changes occur continuously (as rapidly is in a couple of years) and are reversible.

That makes no sense. Even if it did. Are you gonna tell me that somehow radiation knocked 800 years instantly and we've been at about the same level ever since? Wouldn't we be degrading as time went on?

People started hitting 100 years plus like 3500 years ago. And it's stayed constant since then. The math, it doesn't add up. And it's also ridiculous that you believe in a global flood.

There's a fair argument to be made that we just happen to sit in an unusually empty corner of space. The dark matter chit you hear about is basically a mathematical fudge to explain how a normal density universe around us is expanding faster than we expect, rather than just assuming we're in a low density part of the universe that's expanding normally.

Either way, we don't have a lot of fukkin neighbors.

what did the first thing evolve from? the earth wasn't always here right so that very first thing...how did it come?

we did degrade as time went on..check the lifespan as recorded after the flood..it started decreasing proportionately. I agree the math does not add up..for your beliefs..not mine... 4 billion odd years is nowhere near enough time to randomly stumble upon the information required to build life. There is a finite number of life forms(generation), because time itself is finite in relation to life on the planet. It's not possible.

There's plenty of evidence with fossils from archaic human fossils found millions of years ago.

No one knows what IS. I can easily explain what is not though based on nonsense. I believe and it is obvious to me we are made by design by a creator. You believe in science and a mathematical impossibility with no proof. I have no actual proof either. So we both have faith and both have a religion. But please look up the heliocentric model and what it is, and watch the video representation of what it is. Based on that model, all of our senses and everything we know is a lie. So of course I don't believe it.

People now believe a dude dressed as a woman is a woman. So your historical argumentation is completely irrelevant. Humans have gone through phases of enlightenment and knowledge. We still don't even understand what a virus is, so please use better arguments.

My entire point is this. One explanation makes humans to be unimportant, small, a parasite to this world that is floating in a giant infinite darkness. The other explains where we came from, by who, and that humans are imperfectly perfect and live with nature, and we all matter. It also explains life and morality to make sense of it. Everything was designed perfectly to work with each other.

The Earth is a giant battery. The sun and moon are the positive and negative nodes, Salt water is the conductor, volcanos and geysers as pressure release valves, oil for production, mountains as stakes in the earth that provide natural running water, deep artesian wells of water in the entirety of our planet that has never ending resources, so many trees and vegetation to work in tangent with humans to live, animals/insects and everything having a purpose on this planet to create a living for humans to thrive. I can't see in any capacity how this is random or came from nothing and over an amount of time that no human can even conceive of mentally, and evolving from space dust with zero proof. Yet I'm told that this is all factual because man has created a false system of proof for propagandized theoretical phenomena that is pushed by a small group of people that supposedly control all the knowledge.

I am the one accepting I don't know. However, I also don't accept things that are obviously not.

"we weren't designed to live forever, therefore chitty design"

why are you chitting up this thread with your 2000s edgelord atheistic contrarian pseudo-babble?

your cringe 95% undrinkable water was already shot down for how utterly banal and stupid it is, now you choose to double down lmao.

Oh? So now it's science and technology's fault that we aren't evolving, even though we haven't evolved at all in all of human history LMAO.

"if it weren't for these religiouscel holding us back, we'd be evolving and conquering the sky!" to "gosh darn all this science and technology keeping us alive, how we can ever evolve!"

fkn labcoatcels can't make up their minds.

Pretty sure high school science covers that.

With in reach. Absolutely. Are there things we could do to send people further than we think they can. Absolutely.

Strawberries are genetically engineered with a type of fish to prevent the cells from rupturing when frozen. Do that with humans and point them in the right direction. No reason you couldn't revive them next to a possible planet a few hundred years from now.

I have no idea. I don't think human beings currently have the ability to understand it, which is why there are only theories about it. Some people choose to blindly believe in one. The big bang theory seems a bit hard to believe but if there's intelligent design then you can just question who created that intelligent designer. There will always be unanswered questions in the end.

Who decided that? We have been alive some odd 30-40 years most of us on this forum. Now understand and conceptualize the idea of MILLIONS of years. You can't. That amount of time is incomprehensible. So you truly believe that something survived that much time and that we can tell that by looking at bones using something called "carbon dating?" You have faith in the same bodies of science that lie to you constantly for ulterior motives? Scientism is getting out of hand.

no..actually there is not..I'm happy to go through them all..where would you like to start..with Cro-Magnon man, or perhaps Lucy, formerly known as Australopithecines..named by a bankrupt Indian man high on LSD that ran out of funding and came up with "the missing link" just in time..while listening to "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds" on an LSD trip..


“The intelligent layman has long suspected circular reasoning in the use of rocks to date fossils and fossils to date rocks.” [ J.E. O’Rourke,
American Journal of Science 1976, 276:51]

“It cannot be denied that from a strictly philosophical standpoint geologists are here arguing in a circle. The succession of organisms has been determined by a study of their remains embedded in the rocks, and the relative ages of the rocks are determined by the remains of organisms that they contain.”
Rastall, R. H., “Geology,” Encyclopedia Britannica, vol. 10 (1949) University of London. P. 168

“Paleontologists cannot operate this way. There is no way simply to look at a fossil and say how old it is unless you know the age of the rocks it comes from.”[date the fossil by the rock]
Eldredge, Niles

“The rocks do date the fossils, but the fossils date the rocks more accurately. Stratigraphy cannot avoid this kind of reasoning if it insists
O’Rourke, J. E

Evolution is based on two faulty assumptions:
1. mutations make something new and 2. natural selection makes it survive and take over the population. Evolution is a religion of death not life.

“No matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of evolution.”
Pierre-Paul Grasse, Evolution of Living Organisms 1977, p. 88

*They rearrange existing information but do not increase genetic complexity

“In all the reading I’ve done in the life-sciences literature, I’ve never found a mutation that added information. . . . All point mutations that have been studied on the molecular level turn out to reduce the genetic information and not increase it.”
Lee Spetner, Not By Chance!: Shattering the Modern Theory of Evolution (Brooklyn, N.Y.: Judaica Press, 1997), 131, 138.

“Natural selection may have a stabilizing effect, but it does not promote speciation. It is not a creative force as many people have suggested.”
Daniel Brooks “A downward Slope to Greater Diversity,” Science, Vol. 217, 24 September 1982, p. 1240

“Natural selection can act only on those biologic properties that already exist; it cannot create properties in order to meet adaptational needs.”

Parasitology, 6th ed. Lea & Febiger, p. 516.

Survival of the fittest does not explain the arrival of the fittest..


By the way: “Survival of the fittest” is a tautology.

Q. Why did it survive? A. Because it is the fittest.

Q. How do you know it is the fittest? A. Because it survived.


^ circular reasoning

That's 'dark energy' you're thinking of. Dark matter is a fudge meant to explain gravitational effects, like the orbits of stars around galactic centers and the formation of galaxies themselves.

I thought he was a good poster, but he's coming across full blown retard itt

What is it that you're against? I don't understand at all. What would be the point of taking carbon dating?

If you read about space travel, it's not possible.

You can't "fly" in space meaning move the ship around at will and of course there's no energy source that could take a ship anywhere important. We cannot land on planets and take off, etc.

Spacecraft work because we know the path of planets and then people who understand the math time the spacecraft to fly in a straight line until it's by the planet.

We have no spacecraft you can pilot to a planet or whatever because no one knows how to make that work.

I don't have blind faith in carbon dating and don't know how precise it realistically is. But even if those fossils are 100k years old instead of 2 million years then it doesn't really change the fact that those fossils exist. I disagree with the argument that because some scientists lie about things (blabla whole covid scam and all pharma business in general) doesn't just make any scientific theory invalid.

Personally I just look at a specific theory and choose for myself how viable I think it is. The evolution theory seems pretty solid and I believe it to at least partly true. I do find it hard to conceptualize the whole thing going back to one celled beings.

you sure..?
Do you understand stars do not form naturally..?