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post 1676004723 01-28-2023, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken
It’s the same with Tesla; they never account for the fact that he’s also savvy with business. So what that he didn’t invent the battery or the electric car. He made them cool and sold more than anyone.
What?

Tesla is like the leftist's favorite company. The thing about Tesla is that is was massively overvalued, as if it was a tech company, while their numbers never justified that. And that valuation has absolutely crumbled and should continue to crumble now Tesla is being competed with on the EV level. And they are losing a good part of the market as they have a massively overpriced product in terms of build quality and such. With premium brands releasing better and cheaper vehicles, Tesla has had to cut its prices now to hope to sustain sales.

Tesla has made good profits the last two years and it has been excellently managed on a financial level. That is not at all the 'problem' people have had with Tesla or Musk's management of it.
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Full thread:







Testifying today: Jim Baker, Vijaya Gadde, Yoel Roth, Anika Collier Navaroli

Watch Hearing:

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tf the guy going on about lmao
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Holy shіt AOC is so stupid. She is still calling the laptop disinformation, hacked and fake.


She's using her time to bring up a Trump 2019 tweet that upset her.

Edit: Oh man she is bringing up Libs of tiktok account now. Lmao.
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MTG mad af for being suspended. Going in hard af.

She tells them all "I'm glad you all got fired. I'm so happy Elon Musk bought twitter and fired you."

Now she going in on how they let all that underage p0rn stay on the platform.
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why Raskin wearing a do rag
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Originally Posted By Procta
why Raskin wearing a do rag
I'm guessing chemo, as he has cancer.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny
I'm guessing chemo, as he has cancer.
oof

didnt know that makes sense
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post 1676791723 02-08-2023, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77




I think it’s time we start referring to the FBI as the KGB.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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post 1676796613 02-08-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
MTG mad af for being suspended. Going in hard af.

She tells them all "I'm glad you all got fired. I'm so happy Elon Musk bought twitter and fired you."

Now she going in on how they let all that underage p0rn stay on the platform.
You'll never get a legit answer from any libs on the pron that was all over Twitter pre musk.
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Originally Posted By vickissick07
You'll never get a legit answer from any libs on the pron that was all over Twitter pre musk.
The judiciary hearings have started, and all the Twitter execs are on D now. They’re crying about how difficult it is to manage all of the child pornography, terrorism, and keeping users safe.

My question is, how did they have so much trouble when they had hundreds of people censoring users?
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
I think it’s time we start referring to the FBI as the KGB.
So misc libcucks take another big L. Who would have thought? Interesting how all these "right-wing conspiracies" eventually get proven factual.

3 letter US govt agency globois keep glowing awfully bright.
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catching up, came across this interesting exchange

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post 1676843723 02-09-2023, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted By Procta
catching up, came across this interesting exchange

Jesus Christ, she disemboweled him lol.
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post 1677496113 02-18-2023, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77




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How is it not left vs right based on his arguments? Right is not just conservative, it’s also those who want freedom from government. This implies that they were going after anyone speaking against the establishment, which is right wing, and giving privilege to anyone speaking for the government, which is left wing.

I’ve said before that under extremist regimes, a large majority of the opposing party turns out to be communists/fascists as well. This is nothing new. This is confirms that, that some republicans were using their power and influence to exploit social media too.

Fug’em all. Central governments just hold the capacity to become too powerful and corrupt. The idea is “neat”, but power needs to be placed with the states and local governments. States will keep other states in check far better than a central government.
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post 1678549223 03-08-2023, 04:49 AM
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WASHINGTON—The Federal Trade Commission has demanded Twitter Inc. turn over internal communications related to owner Elon Musk, as well as detailed information about layoffs—citing concerns that staff reductions could compromise the company’s ability to protect users, documents viewed by the Wall Street Journal show.

In 12 letters sent to Twitter and its lawyers since Mr. Musk’s Oct. 27 takeover, the FTC also asked the company to “identify all journalists” granted access to company records and to provide information about the launch of the revamped Twitter Blue subscription service, the documents show.

The FTC is also seeking to depose Mr. Musk in connection with the probe.
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The Judiciary panel’s report, the first by a new subcommittee examining what Republicans call “weaponization” of federal agencies, accused the FTC of overstepping its authority at the urging of progressive groups unhappy with Mr. Musk’s acquisition of the company.

“There is no logical reason, for example, why the FTC needs to know the identities of journalists engaging with Twitter,” the report said. “There is no logical reason why the FTC, on the basis of user privacy, needs to analyze all of Twitter’s personnel decisions. And there is no logical reason why the FTC needs every single internal Twitter communication about Elon Musk.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter...ments-db6b179e
post 1678550113 03-08-2023, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
In 12 letters sent to Twitter and its lawyers since Mr. Musk’s Oct. 27 takeover, the FTC also asked the company to “identify all journalists” granted access to company records and to provide information about the launch of the revamped Twitter Blue subscription service, the documents show.
Tell 'em ACLU!
“The press was to serve the governed, not the governors.” The freedom of the press, protected by the First Amendment, is critical to a democracy in which the government is accountable to the people. A free media functions as a watchdog that can investigate and report on government wrongdoing.

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The First Amendment permits information, ideas and opinions without interference, constraint or prosecution by the government.[5][6] It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...%20of%20Rights.
Where you at libs? Threat to democracy, right? Right??
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post 1678551223 03-08-2023, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Tell 'em ACLU!

Where you at libs? Threat to democracy, right? Right??
It's some serious overreach by the Biden admin.





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Select Subcommittee Hearing on the Weaponization of the Federal Government: The Twitter Files

Starts @ 10am EST

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Matt Taibbi's Statement To Congress:


Chairman Jordan, ranking member Plaskett, members of the Select Committee,

My name is Matt Taibbi. I’ve been a reporter for over 30 years, and an advocate for the First Amendment. Much of that time was spent at Rolling Stone magazine. Over my career, I’ve had the good fortune to be recognized for the work I love. I’ve won the National Magazine Award, the I.F. Stone Award for independent journalism, and written ten books, including four New York Times bestsellers. I’m now the editor of the online magazine Racket, on the independent platform Substack.

I’m here today because of a series of events that began late last year, when I received a note from a source online.

It read: “Are you interested in doing a deep dive into what censorship and manipulation… was going on at Twitter?”

A week later, the first of what became known as the “Twitter Files” reports came out. To say these attracted intense public interest would be an understatement. My computer looked like a slot machine as just the first tweet about the blockage of the Hunter Biden laptop story registered 143 million impressions and 30 million engagements.

But it wasn’t until a week after the first report, after Michael Shellenberger, Bari Weiss, and other researchers joined the search of the “Files,” that we started to grasp the significance of this story.

The original promise of the Internet was that it might democratize the exchange of information globally. A free internet would overwhelm all attempts to control information flow, its very existence a threat to anti-democratic forms of government everywhere.

What we found in the Files was a sweeping effort to reverse that promise, and use machine learning and other tools to turn the internet into an instrument of censorship and social control. Unfortunately, our own government appears to be playing a lead role.

We saw the first hints in communications between Twitter executives before the 2020 election, where we read things like:

Hi team, can we get your opinion on this? This was flagged by DHS:

Or:

Please see attached report from the FBI for potential misinformation.

This would be attached to excel spreadsheet with a long list of names, whose accounts were often suspended shortly after.

Following the trail of communications between Twitter and the federal government across tens of thousands of emails led to a series of revelations. Mr. Chairman, we’ve summarized these and submitted them to the committee in the form of a new Twitter Files thread, which is also being released to the public now, on Twitter at @ShellenbergerMD, and @mtaibbi.

We learned Twitter, ********, Google, and other companies developed a formal system for taking in moderation “requests” from every corner of government: the FBI, DHS, HHS, DOD, the Global Engagement Center at State, even the CIA. For every government agency scanning Twitter, there were perhaps 20 quasi-private entities doing the same, including Stanford’s Election Integrity Project, Newsguard, the Global Disinformation Index, and others, many taxpayer-funded.

A focus of this fast-growing network is making lists of people whose opinions, beliefs, associations, or sympathies are deemed “misinformation,” “disinformation,” or “malinformation.” The latter term is just a euphemism for “true but inconvenient.”

Undeniably, the making of such lists is a form of digital McCarthyism.

Ordinary Americans are not just being reported to Twitter for “deamplification” or de-platforming, but to firms like PayPal, digital advertisers like Xandr, and crowdfunding sites like GoFundMe. These companies can and do refuse service to law-abiding people and businesses whose only crime is falling afoul of a distant, faceless, unaccountable, algorithmic judge.

As someone who grew up a traditional ACLU liberal, this mechanism for punishment without due process is horrifying.

Another troubling aspect is the role of the press, which should be the people’s last line of defense.

But instead of investigating these groups, journalists partnered with them. If Twitter declined to remove an account right away, government agencies and NGOs would call reporters for the New York Times, Washington Post, and other outlets, who in turn would call Twitter demanding to know why action had not been taken.


Continued in next post...
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Matt Taibbi's Statement To Congress (Continued)

Effectively, news media became an arm of a state-sponsored thought-policing system.

Some will say, “So what? Why shouldn’t we eliminate disinformation?”

To begin with, you can’t have a state-sponsored system targeting “disinformation” without striking at the essence of the right to free speech. The two ideas are in direct conflict.

Many of the fears driving what my colleague Michael Shellenberger calls the “Censorship-Industrial Complex” also inspired the infamous “Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798.” The latter outlawed “any false, scandalous, and malicious writing against Congress or the president.”

Here is something that will sound familiar: supporters of that law hundreds of years ago were quick to denounce their critics as sympathizers with a hostile foreign power, at the time France. Alexander Hamilton said Thomas Jefferson and his supporters were “more Frenchmen than Americans.”

Jefferson, in vehemently opposing these laws, said democracy cannot survive in a country where power is given to people “whose suspicions may be the evidence.” He added:

It would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism.

Jefferson’s ideas still ring true today. In a free society we don’t mandate truth, we arrive at it through discussion and debate. Any group that claims the “confidence” to decide fact and fiction, especially in the name of protecting democracy, is always, itself, the real threat to democracy.

This is why “anti-disinformation” just doesn’t work. Any experienced journalist knows experts are often initially wrong, and sometimes they even lie. In fact, when elite opinion is too much in sync, this itself can be a red flag.

We just saw this with the Covid lab-leak theory. Many of the institutions we’re now investigating initially labeled the idea that Covid came from a lab “disinformation” and conspiracy theory. Now apparently even the FBI takes it seriously.

It’s not possible to instantly arrive at truth. It is however becoming technologically possible to instantly define and enforce a political consensus online, which I believe is what we’re looking at.

This is a grave threat to people of all political persuasions.

For hundreds of years, the thing that’s distinguished Americans from all other people around the world is the way we don’t let anyone tell us what to think, certainly not the government.

The First Amendment, and an American population accustomed to the right to speak, is the best defense left against the Censorship-Industrial Complex. If the latter can knock over our first and most important constitutional guarantee, these groups will have no serious opponent left anywhere.

If there’s anything the Twitter Files show, it’s that we’re in danger of losing this most precious right, without which all other democratic rights are impossible.

Thank you for the opportunity to appear, and I would be happy to answer any questions from the Committee.


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Originally Posted By gwg77
Matt Taibbi's Statement To Congress (Continued)

Effectively, news media became an arm of a state-sponsored thought-policing system.

Some will say, “So what? Why shouldn’t we eliminate disinformation?”

To begin with, you can’t have a state-sponsored system targeting “disinformation” without striking at the essence of the right to free speech. The two ideas are in direct conflict.
It simply mystifies me how liberals - who have traditionally wrapped themselves in the 1st Amendment and cemented their feet in a bed of "Muh Free Speech!" are not only A-ok with this, but have actively fought to defend the government and twitter.

"I may not agree with what you say, but to the death will I fight for your right to say it!"

That used to be their war cry.

Now though... not so much.
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1. TWITTER FILES:
Statement to Congress
THE CENSORSHIP-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX




This whole thread on systematic gov censorship on social media is revealing. Gov-backed third party nonprofits directly shaped narratives, set Twitter policy, tacitly supported a partisan smear campaign in Alabama they knew was false. @mtaibbi & @ShellenbergerMD testifying today.

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
It simply mystifies me how liberals - who have traditionally wrapped themselves in the 1st Amendment and cemented their feet in a bed of "Muh Free Speech!" are not only A-ok with this, but have actively fought to defend the government and twitter.

"I may not agree with what you say, but to the death will I fight for your right to say it!"

That used to be their war cry.

Now though... not so much.
Yeah, they gave up on that a while ago. Do we know when this first started happening, though?

I remember when Milo Yiannopoulos tried to speak at UC Berkeley back in 2016 or 2017 and his speech was shut down because they started rioting.

I remember arguing with my college friends on FB (who are mostly NYC liberals), and reminding them that UC Berkeley was once the home of the free speech movement back in the 60s, and here we are today, where they won't let him speak. They didn't GAF. They were glad he was shut down.

But, even before that, I remember many comedians were already canceling college engagements because the students were getting too sensitive to the things they were saying.

So when exactly did liberals completely give up on free speech? Was it the millennial generation that got super sensitive from college brainwashing? Was it really Gen X liberals, who also seem to be in full support of censorship?
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Originally Posted By Procta
1. TWITTER FILES:
Statement to Congress
THE CENSORSHIP-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX




This whole thread on systematic gov censorship on social media is revealing. Gov-backed third party nonprofits directly shaped narratives, set Twitter policy, tacitly supported a partisan smear campaign in Alabama they knew was false. @mtaibbi & @ShellenbergerMD testifying today.

Michael Shellenberger also has a massive thread on THE CENSORSHIP-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX






Also, Shellenberger's Statement to Congress:

https://public.substack.com/p/expose...ret-censorship
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