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Thread: New research shows CDC exaggerated the evidence for masks to fight COVID

post 1677107253 02-13-2023, 08:04 AM
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Still blows my mind that there are still cucks talking about masks. Did you notice any masks at the last SOTU? Even full covidcels aren't this retarded.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Still blows my mind that there are still cucks talking about masks. Did you notice any masks at the last SOTU? Even full covidcels aren't this retarded.
Shortly after this thing kicked off a few years ago masks became a trendy status symbol. And I realized then that there are some people who'll never stop wearing them, or refuse to STFU about them.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Still blows my mind that there are still cucks talking about masks. Did you notice any masks at the last SOTU? Even full covidcels aren't this retarded.
It still blows my mind that people are discussing this topic(Covid) at all.
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post 1677108173 02-13-2023, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By uncle
It still blows my mind that people are discussing this topic(Covid) at all.
Says the one talking about covid.
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Thanks for that.
So they used studies other than covid in their analysis.....

1. "The high risk of bias in the trials,
variation in outcome measurement,
and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies
hampers drawing firm conclusions."
2. "true effect may be different from the observed **estimate** of the effect"
3. " Harms associated with **physical interventions were under‐investigated**"
4. As in every study more research is needed......
"There is a need for large, well‐designed RCTs addressing the effectiveness of many of these interventions in multiple settings and populations, as well as the impact of adherence on effectiveness, especially in those most at risk of ARIs."
Originally Posted By x-trainer
great points!
Originally Posted By x-trainer
This is why you must always read the details of the study and not some newspaper reporters "summary" of the study.
I missed what you pointed out, great find!
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post 1677108473 02-13-2023, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Says the one talking about covid.
Since ***you missed this***, we are discussing a specific study with a newspaper articles false conclusion.
We are NOT talking about it in day to day life any longer, that was so 2022.
EYEROLL
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post 1677108993 02-13-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By uncle
Since ***you missed this***, we are discussing a specific study with a newspaper articles false conclusion.
We are NOT talking about it in day to day life any longer, that was so 2022.
EYEROLL
Mask, vax, mask, vax, mask, vax, mask vax... Day in and day out Benny.

Either you Ronaholics are on your knees worshiping your Lord Fauci and his sacred gift of the Rona, queefing about the unvaxxedUntermensch, or us unvaxxedUntermenschare laughing at you Ronaholics as you defend your sacred Rona.
But no Benny, you don't discuss covid at all lol..

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post 1677109303 02-13-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Mask, vax, mask, vax, mask, vax, mask vax... Day in and day out Benny.

Either you Ronaholics are on your knees worshiping your Lord Fauci and his sacred gift of the Rona, queefing about the unvaxxedUntermensch, or us unvaxxedUntermenschare laughing at you Ronaholics as you defend your sacred Rona.
But no Benny, you don't discuss covid at all lol..

We ALL went back to PRE COVID LIFE life when the mandates ended in 2022, you need to keep up!
BTW there was a Superbowl yesterday since you don't keep up with news and information, LMAO
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post 1677109693 02-13-2023, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
We ALL went back to PRE COVID LIFE life when the mandates ended in 2022, you need to keep up!
BTW there was a Superbowl yesterday since you don't keep up with news and information, LMAO
And some of us never changed our PRE COVID LIFE Benny.

That still doesn't change the fact that you can still be found here in 2023 in every one of these discussions defending your Rona. But you don't discuss it though lol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
And some of us never changed our PRE COVID LIFE Benny.

That still doesn't change the fact that you can still be found here in 2023 in every one of these discussions defending your Rona. But you don't discuss it though lol.
I always said, ad nauseum, it was up to you what you did; if Bushmaster got sick, it didn't change my life 1 bit and i didn't give a FK.
I discuss the research.
RECALL I DIDNT GET IT.
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post 1677110323 02-13-2023, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted By uncle
I always said, ad nauseum, it was up to you what you did; if Bushmaster got sick, it didn't change my life 1 bit and i didn't give a FK.
I discuss the research.
RECALL I DIDNT GET IT.
That still doesn't change the fact that you can still be found here in 2023 in every one of these discussions defending your Rona. But you don't discuss it though lol.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I always said, ad nauseum, it was up to you what you did; if Bushmaster got sick, it didn't change my life 1 bit and i didn't give a FK.
I discuss the research.
RECALL I DIDNT GET IT.
I can't believe that you're STILL talking about Covid.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
It still blows my mind that people are discussing this topic(Covid) at all.
There are plenty of aspects about it that can be discussed. We have to remember howmuch we were lied toand how much damage those lies caused. Every single aspect was lied about or hyped to ridiculous levels. From day 1 there wasn't a shred of truth we were told by governments or public health officials. Possibly the most egregious was the overinflated death count which continues today. So much of everything done revolved around the deaths lie and exaggerated risk to non-elderly. Brought to you by the same government now telling you Lucky Charms are healthier than steak.

The lies were constant and massive. Billions of people have been screwed over by them, and the fallout from the lies will go on for many, many years.

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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
There are plenty of aspects about it that can be discussed. We have to remember howmuch we were lied toand how much damage those lies caused. Every single aspect was lied about or hyped to ridiculous levels. From day 1 there wasn't a shred of truth we were told by governments or public health officials. Possibly the most egregious was the overinflated death count which continues today. So much of everything done revolved around the deaths lie and exaggerated risk to non-elderly. Brought to you by the same government now telling you Lucky Charms are healthier than steak.

The lies were constant and massive. Billions of people have been screwed over by them, and the fallout from the lies will go on for many, many years.
Acute and postacute sequelae associated with SARS-CoV-2 reinfection

"Compared to no reinfection, reinfection contributed additional risks of death (hazard ratio (HR) = 2.17, 95% confidence intervals (CI) 1.93–2.45), hospitalization (HR = 3.32, 95% CI 3.13–3.51) and sequelae including pulmonary, cardiovascular, hematological, diabetes, gastrointestinal, kidney, mental health, musculoskeletal and neurological disorders. The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status. The risks were most pronounced in the acute phase but persisted in the postacute phase at 6 months. Compared to noninfected controls, cumulative risks and burdens of repeat infection increased according to the number of infections. Limitations included a cohort of mostly white males. The evidence shows that reinfection further increases risks of death, hospitalization and sequelae in multiple organ systems in the acute and postacute phase. Reducing overall burden of death and disease due to SARS-CoV-2 will require strategies for reinfection prevention."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Acute and postacute sequelae associated with SARS-CoV-2 reinfection

"Compared to no reinfection, reinfection contributed additional risks of death (hazard ratio (HR) = 2.17, 95% confidence intervals (CI) 1.93–2.45), hospitalization (HR = 3.32, 95% CI 3.13–3.51) and sequelae including pulmonary, cardiovascular, hematological, diabetes, gastrointestinal, kidney, mental health, musculoskeletal and neurological disorders. The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status. The risks were most pronounced in the acute phase but persisted in the postacute phase at 6 months. Compared to noninfected controls, cumulative risks and burdens of repeat infection increased according to the number of infections. Limitations included a cohort of mostly white males.The evidence shows that reinfection further increases risks of death, hospitalization and sequelae in multiple organ systems in the acute and postacute phase. Reducing overall burden of death and disease due to SARS-CoV-2 will require strategies for reinfection prevention."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. Take a vape. Inhale. Put on a mask. Breathe out.

Literally all of the vapor goes through the mask. Now imagine a covid molecule being 1000x smaller than the vape molecule.

And if people say blah blah blah the covid molecule rides on water molecules and that is how people get sick?

Ok.....but the vape water molecule just went through the mask.
you can't reach people who couldn't inherently visualize that.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. Take a vape. Inhale. Put on a mask. Breathe out.

Literally all of the vapor goes through the mask. Now imagine a covid molecule being 1000x smaller than the vape molecule.

And if people say blah blah blah the covid molecule rides on water molecules and that is how people get sick?

Ok.....but the vape water molecule just went through the mask.
The n95 uses electrostatic filtration.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
There are plenty of aspects about it that can be discussed. We have to remember howmuch we were lied toand how much damage those lies caused. Every single aspect was lied about or hyped to ridiculous levels. From day 1 there wasn't a shred of truth we were told by governments or public health officials. Possibly the most egregious was the overinflated death count which continues today. So much of everything done revolved around the deaths lie and exaggerated risk to non-elderly. Brought to you by the same government now telling you Lucky Charms are healthier than steak.

The lies were constant and massive. Billions of people have been screwed over by them, and the fallout from the lies will go on for many, many years.

So are you upset at a country and a leadership that takes precautions when a new unknown epidemic is destroying Italy and China?
Birks, Fauchi, Trump, hhs guy, and the cast of task force members?
Ok you keep talking and hopefully they listen to you.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You tend not to get stuff, even when it's spelled out for you.

I never got Covid, i must be too healthy.

get stuff= covid
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So are you upset at a country and a leadership that takes precautions when a new unknown epidemic is destroying Italy and China?
Birks, Fauchi, Trump, hhs guy, and the cast of task force members?
Ok you keep talking and hopefully they listen to you.
I think we now have more than enough proof that an individual, or a small group, making decisions for the whole, is rarely, if ever a good idea. The amount of exploitation that was involved, and the results, speak for themselves.

“it is not the moral basis. That is the concern, it is the moral results.” FA Hayek

Leftists want to change the argument to things like “but we didn’t know”, and “it was for the greater good”. The results were anything but, get here you are continuing to defend it. Intentions do not absolve one of wrongdoings, or evil doings. If the outcome is worse, then you did not do good, and there is no excuse, especially if you used coercion.

We now have mob rule as a result of all of this. That mob rule is a result of destroying our republic. There is no amount of justification for those results.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I think we now have more than enough proof that an individual, or a small group, making decisions for the whole, is rarely, if ever a good idea. The amount of exploitation that was involved, and the results, speak for themselves.

“it is not the moral basis. That is the concern, it is the moral results.” FA Hayek

Leftists want to change the argument to things like “but we didn’t know”, and “it was for the greater good”. The results were anything but, get here you are continuing to defend it. Intentions do not absolve one of wrongdoings, or evil doings. If the outcome is worse, then you did not do good, and there is no excuse, especially if you used coercion.

We now have mob rule as a result of all of this. That mob rule is a result of destroying our republic. There is no amount of justification for those results.
I haven't seen anything suggesting whatshouldhave been done in response to a pandemic that would have resulted inbetteroutcomes. Responses were mixed, confusing, and poorly communicated. But those who are most upset with how things were handled don't seem to have proposals for what should have been done or what should be done next time.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
It still blows my mind that people are discussing this topic(Covid) at all.
Maybe because your side is still wearing masks, and still freaking out when another variant emerges, or the fact that in December, LA and NYC Were on the verge of bringing back the mask mandates?

But why talk about that Benny???
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I haven't seen anything suggesting whatshouldhave been done in response to a pandemic that would have resulted inbetteroutcomes. Responses were mixed, confusing, and poorly communicated. But those who are most upset with how things were handled don't seem to have proposals for what should have been done or what should be done next time.
Kraken is just a whiner. He will whine and oppose the govt doing anything or even existing at all.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
We ALL went back to PRE COVID LIFE life when the mandates ended in 2022, you need to keep up!
BTW there was a Superbowl yesterday since you don't keep up with news and information, LMAO
Covid is over, is that why your relative was bed ridden for 2 weeks, and you had to walk her dog a few months ago??? How is anyone in your family tree even alive??? Probably because of modern medicine.....
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Acute and postacute sequelae associated with SARS-CoV-2 reinfection

"Compared to no reinfection, reinfection contributed additional risks of death (hazard ratio (HR) = 2.17, 95% confidence intervals (CI) 1.93–2.45), hospitalization (HR = 3.32, 95% CI 3.13–3.51) and sequelae including pulmonary, cardiovascular, hematological, diabetes, gastrointestinal, kidney, mental health, musculoskeletal and neurological disorders. The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status. The risks were most pronounced in the acute phase but persisted in the postacute phase at 6 months. Compared to noninfected controls, cumulative risks and burdens of repeat infection increased according to the number of infections. Limitations included a cohort of mostly white males. The evidence shows that reinfection further increases risks of death, hospitalization and sequelae in multiple organ systems in the acute and postacute phase. Reducing overall burden of death and disease due to SARS-CoV-2 will require strategies for reinfection prevention."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3
Congratulations, that's a proper description of most viral and bacterial respiratory infections.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Covid is over, is that why your relative was bed ridden for 2 weeks, and you had to walk her dog a few months ago??? How is anyone in your family tree even alive??? Probably because of modern medicine.....
Why is covid "over"? Because politicians said so? it's not over. It may be endemic, but it is still a srs issue. Yes modern medicine is a great thing. Why not use it to maximize your survival and qol outcomes?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I never got Covid, i must be too healthy.

get stuff= covid
Congratulations, you lived like a hermit with OCD and never caught it.

You also refuse to admit your were lied to with the vaccine, you got it because of your family......
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Originally Posted By TitsAlternative⏩
Why is covid "over"? Because politicians said so? it's not over. It may be endemic, but it is still a srs issue. Yes modern medicine is a great thing. Why not use it to maximize your survival and qol outcomes?
So you're disagreeing with X-Trainer? And no, it's not a srs issue Wincel. People like you are still holed up indoors, while the rest of us are living life.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I haven't seen anything suggesting whatshouldhave been done in response to a pandemic that would have resulted inbetteroutcomes. Responses were mixed, confusing, and poorly communicated. But those who are most upset with how things were handled don't seem to have proposals for what should have been done or what should be done next time.
We did see suggestions, but they were censored. The Doctor Who invented these types of “vaccines“ was one of them. Now you are dodging and ignoring all that has happened. Fauci lied and hid important information. The CDC and FDA lied and hid important information. The “we didn’t know” excuse is bull****.

It’s no surprise though, because people who created these bad outcomes want to deny they did anything wrong because of the implications, and are even asking for amnesty because of their crimes. I guess I understand, because of the penalties are harsh.

We refer to this as the unbearable truth; Evil so great that many people cannot come to terms with it.

But you will just deflect to nonsense. You will pretend you didn’t know anything about that. You will pretend all of it is blown out of proportion. Some people have no understanding what evil is in the first place. The bigger picture is very difficult for the weak minded.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I haven't seen anything suggesting whatshouldhave been done in response to a pandemic that would have resulted inbetteroutcomes. Responses were mixed, confusing, and poorly communicated. But those who are most upset with how things were handled don't seem to have proposals for what should have been done or what should be done next time.
Next time they'll do the same, they'll destroy small businesses, the middle class, and the top 1% will double their net worth.
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