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Originally Posted By uncle

Why do you always, always, always, say the opposite of what people actually think.
"You feel it’s appropriate for our federal government to completely ignore this disaster"
A complete and total fabrication, a made up fairy tale by EZmac, by a dude that knows nothing and makes chitty assumptions.

A chemical spill/fire requires, not old presidents on the scene, but the proper officials from the state, the train owners and safety experts from the company, and the proper federal agencies to asses what needs to be done asap.
My assumption is that agency folks did not want the chemical exposure and delayed their immediate response in order to not be exposed to Carcinogenic elements.
No one said or implied ignoring any fkn thing, gtfoh with that nonsense.

Just that the company should pay...... since it is their fuk up!

Jesus ****ing Christ Benny, that's kinda their job man.

Highly educated, highly trained, highly paid disaster experts with the best protective equipment your tax dollars can buy, and they're all like... "Nah I don't want to go. Fuk Ohio, let them breathe and drink the shiit!"

That how you see it?

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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩

Just fukin lol @ Benny. I suppose Fire Fighters also shouldn't show up to burning buildings, because it's kind of risky.

"Yeah ...we didn't want to risk getting burned, smoke inhalation, or any of the various other hazards - even with all of the PPE we have available"

"Oh, it's cool bro." - Scholar Ben

Fire is hot dude.. Can you imagine going into a BURNING building in the middle of August? Fuk that!

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

You should easily be able to provide a quote then?

I'd be interested to see who was saying this.

Semantics.

You all fought tooth and nail againstFEMAgoing there.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Wood chipper would be walking bowlegged for weeks.


"Tierney explained that FEMA believed the incident didn't qualify as a traditional disaster, such as a tornado or hurricane, for which it usually provides assistance."

WTF we love government handouts now.

Originally Posted By Phil9⏩

Poor Ohio not getting their federal government handouts.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

What does it have to do with the thread? FEMA isn't the right agency to address this and OP thought it would be a clever way to make a political attack. So let's not pretend this is suddenly a humanitarian topic.

Or let's ignore the OP and pretend it is.

Water utilities and air tests are coming back clean or "safe". What is actually needed on the ground right now?

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Why is this "unreal"?

Seems FEMA is pretty consistent with what their funds are made available for.

Ohio needs to look elsewhere for free chit,I'm sure they'll be okay.

I'm glad you're an environmentalist though 'tard.

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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Everyone bitching about FEMA doesn't seem to know what they do, but it's right there in the name of the agency.

They are a management agency, i.e. administrators. They make phone calls and fill out paperwork. They don'tdoanything beyond that.

Jesus 'tard, just stop already.

FEMA’s National Response Coordination Center is a multiagency center responsible for organizing and coordinating federal support for major disasters. FEMA deploys the National Disaster Medical System (NDMS) to disaster sites. NDMS is comprised of teams of doctors and nurses who work in the private sector. They are normally sponsored by their hospitals, private companies, and public safety agencies. In the event of a disaster, these teams are sent in to provide assistance. FEMA also coordinates with the United States Public Health Service’s Rapid Deployment Force. These teams work together to decontaminate victims of chemical and biologic agents, to treat injured persons, and to immunize against disease. Urban Search and Rescue teams are also used to find persons trapped in collapsed structures or stranded by flooding.

https://www.azlawhelp.org/articles_i...&articleid=419

You're making yourself look legit retarded AF.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

LMFAO STFU clown.

On Monday, instead of going to your job at Dollar General, clock in across the street at Dollar Tree and cry "SEMANTICS!! iT's ThE sAmE tHiNg!!!!!!" when you don't get paid.

So a toxic chemical spill and lack of government response is the same thing as Dollar Store/Dollar Tree to you.

You know 'tard, believe it or not I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.. I just kinda figured you were a fairly smart guy blinded by his partisan politics. But tbh bro, you're really not helping yourself in these discussions.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Words to live by...."You're at the shopping mall with your girl but a hot chick walks by. Are you going to look at the hot girl? No. You use your peripheral vision."

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Are you able to read? Srs question.

Look up what it means toorganize and coordinate(semantics! LOL), then apply your new found knowledge to my previous post and FEMA's mission statement.

Organize and coordinate what though 'tard?

But ok, I'll look it up and spoon feed you.

Chemicals and Hazardous Materials Incidents
https://www.ready.gov/hazmat
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-07/hazardous-materials-incidents.pdf

Only thing is though I didn't see where Ohio was excluded... Maybe you could point out that section for me?

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

I'm not the one arguing the difference between the EPA and FEMA is "semantics".

That's all you. Dumfuk.

Actually you are.

Two solid weeks now you fought like a caged animal againstFEMAassistance in Ohio. Ezmac says you supportedEPAstaying TF out of Ohio and you became indignant lol.. "How dare you insinuate that! I would never!"

Whatever dude. You didn't want ANY GOVERNMENT assistance there. None of you did.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Wood chipper would be walking bowlegged for weeks.


"Tierney explained that FEMA believed the incident didn't qualify as a traditional disaster, such as a tornado or hurricane, for which it usually provides assistance."

WTF we love government handouts now.

Originally Posted By Phil9⏩

Poor Ohio not getting their federal government handouts.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

What does it have to do with the thread? FEMA isn't the right agency to address this and OP thought it would be a clever way to make a political attack. So let's not pretend this is suddenly a humanitarian topic.

Or let's ignore the OP and pretend it is.

Water utilities and air tests are coming back clean or "safe". What is actually needed on the ground right now?

Honest to god man, you've made an ass out of yourself playing politics, you look dumb AF, and you need to stop arguing and walk away from this one.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩

Orrrrrr.......... you are complete sadistic psychopath's with zero regard for your fellow human and animals IE nature. I mean....you guys talk about the environment and climate change until you are blue in the face.....then something like this happens...a real disaster to the environment.....you the truth comes out. You guys could care less about it. It is just political talking points for you guys.

AS WE KNEW ALL ALONG.

It is serious cult like behavior.

Tell him 'tard!

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Have those contaminated waterways been attributed to the train derailment? Are people drinking or bathing in them? Serious questions because both state and federal officials are saying things are safe. There are no shortages of private labs to verify the government though, so hopefully they are utilized and we don't base everything on tweets or go through this whole thing of "trusting the science" again.

I'm a bit of environmentalist myself, and I'd love to see all these creeks in industrial areas cleaned up. For years the EPA has been chit on for overreaching though. It's not going to happen overnightbut lets go hard after anyone polluting our natural resources.

'Tard is one environmental motherfuker!

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

Okay... With that big smooth brain of yours, you should then easily be able to provide a quote where myself or anyone else said the federal or stateEPA shouldn't have assisted, nor the local first responders, nor the DOT, NTSB, FRA, or any other government entity.

InB4 autistic screeching of semantics, they're all the same.

Dumfuk.

One more time. You did NOT want ANY US Government assistance.

Originally Posted By Seatard⏩

WTF we love government handouts now.

Originally Posted By Phil9⏩

Poor Ohio not getting their federal government handouts.

Honest to fuking god man do you not have any shame? Where's your dignity ffs? You legit look stupid and you really need to stop.

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Words to live by...."You're at the shopping mall with your girl but a hot chick walks by. Are you going to look at the hot girl? No. You use your peripheral vision."