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post 1678012153 02-27-2023, 10:18 AM
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Anyone quit being a degenerate?

I walked out of the office and did an upper body workout listening to some Tube and Berger.

Went for a coffee with that guy I mentioned in a previous thread - the "sex addict". I am one too.

We spoke about life, achievement, values. I am still in the cafe, he went back to the office.

But I wonder: is the peak existence a mastery over the self? I still skip workouts and binge on junk food sometimes and I think: what if my peak is mastery over all that.

Anyone know what I mean? Hrm.
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post 1678012223 02-27-2023, 10:20 AM
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Only way I ever really was a degen was sex addiction and now I’m married and faithful
So yes.
We’re all gonna make it brahs
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post 1678013163 02-27-2023, 10:38 AM
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have tried. hasnt worked yet.

i was degen til about 2020 then got my chit together, started pursuing a lifestyle more based on "financial wellbeing" but that comes with a cost. now ive relapsed in to being a degen and i think this time its for good. i dont have the patience for corporate america or half the fgts out there.

live life, live minimally, occasionally break free of your routine, dont try to force things you cant make work, test yourself, go on random adventures and and dont prioritize possessions over people, unless its waterfront property out in BFE. in that case you can tell everyone to fuk right off.
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post 1678016373 02-27-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Krackerjacked⏩
Only way I ever really was a degen was sex addiction and now I’m married and faithful
So yes.
We’re all gonna make it brahs
Yes, let's all make it. Did you funnel your sex addiction into your marriage or tone it down over time?
post 1678016423 02-27-2023, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Krackerjacked⏩
Only way I ever really was a degen was sex addiction and now I’m married and faithful
So yes.
We’re all gonna make it brahs
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post 1678018393 02-27-2023, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
Yes, let's all make it. Did you funnel your sex addiction into your marriage or tone it down over time?
Dialed it back quite a bit, I was working on it before meeting my wife. On team no fap/no porn as well
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post 1678019413 02-27-2023, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
have tried. hasnt worked yet.

i was degen til about 2020 then got my chit together, started pursuing a lifestyle more based on "financial wellbeing" but that comes with a cost. now ive relapsed in to being a degen and i think this time its for good. i dont have the patience for corporate america or half the fgts out there.

live life, live minimally, occasionally break free of your routine, dont try to force things you cant make work, test yourself, go on random adventures and and dont prioritize possessions over people, unless its waterfront property out in BFE. in that case you can tell everyone to fuk right off.
In what sense are you a degenerate though? The form of degeneracy is important when considering how to deal with it.
post 1678019783 02-27-2023, 12:23 PM
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It's pretty beta to concern yourself with whether you are "degenerate" or not. I just live my life and do what I think makes sense. I couldn't care less how others judge me.
post 1678020063 02-27-2023, 12:26 PM
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I had too many close calls and got myself married which kinda forced me to clean up my act.
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I have. I used to sleep around and did a lot of drugs while drinking a ton. I'm married now and a wild weekend night is having a 6 pack before smashing the wife and passing out at 1030. I haven't cheated on my wife even when we were dating and never will. It's a good life and I highly recommend it
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's pretty beta to concern yourself with whether you are "degenerate" or not. I just live my life and do what I think makes sense. I couldn't care less how others judge me.
some of us hold ourselves to certain standards and when we deviate we consider it to be "degenerate" or "deviant" behavior. Your statement implies that you always make the correct decisions, which you can say "is true for me" but in reality where most of us reside it is not always so cut and dry.

I.e. "I smoked a cig, it felt good in the moment, but afterwards I realized it was degenerate behavior."

or "i smashed an uggo and it seemed like a good idea at the time, but now I know differently" etc.
post 1678022163 02-27-2023, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
It's pretty beta to concern yourself with whether you are "degenerate" or not. I just live my life and do what I think makes sense. I couldn't care less how others judge me.
This is a thread about introspection. Not about how others perceive one. What made you think it was about others' views? I explicitly wrote self mastery...
post 1678022613 02-27-2023, 01:02 PM
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As far as degenerates go I dont even register on the scale these days, but that aint sayin much.
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post 1678022823 02-27-2023, 01:06 PM
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You engage in those things to cope, and this further illustrates that...there is no such thing as a cope free existence.

You will probably reply to this with some sort of intellectual dishonesty in an attempt to cope with this very basic truth.
post 1678022863 02-27-2023, 01:07 PM
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post 1678023033 02-27-2023, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
You engage in those things to cope, and this further illustrates that...there is no such thing as a cope free existence.

You will probably reply to this with some sort of intellectual dishonesty in an attempt to cope with this very basic truth.
How is skipping a workout cope? Define the argument you are making, instead of just reiterating a statement / attack as you just did. I.e., you once again represent the intellectual dishonesty you accused me of.
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Originally Posted By HTDG⏩
some of us hold ourselves to certain standards and when we deviate we consider it to be "degenerate" or "deviant" behavior. Your statement implies that you always make the correct decisions, which you can say "is true for me" but in reality where most of us reside it is not always so cut and dry.

I.e. "I smoked a cig, it felt good in the moment, but afterwards I realized it was degenerate behavior."

or "i smashed an uggo and it seemed like a good idea at the time, but now I know differently" etc.
Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
This is a thread about introspection. Not about how others perceive one. What made you think it was about others' views? I explicitly wrote self mastery...
If you consider something to be degenerate, why do it? I guess I am not addicted to anything so I can't relate. You basically know something is "degenerate", but do it anyway?

Why would you feel bad about "smashing an uggo"? Why smash at all if you don't find her attractive? You're ok with just dehumanizing people and using them for sex? Maybe you just aren't being honest with yourself about the kind of person you are. You also did find her attractive at the time, suggesting your entire perception of "uggo" is framed by expectations placed upon you by society and not your own innate will...

And as far as addiction goes, that is harder, but there is always rehab.
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Skipping workouts and binging on junk food sometimes does not qualify as being a degenerate. It takes a lot more than that. Maybe you are too hard on yourself?
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
Skipping workouts and binging on junk food sometimes does not qualify as being a degenerate. It takes a lot more than that. Maybe you are too hard on yourself?
Maybe? I mean "degenerate" may mean different things to different people.

I meant more - about self-mastery. Why eat junk food when I can easily afford fantastic food at any time. Why skip a workout? This isn't about "cope". I think it is about going from a positive place to a more optimal one.

It is like the mastery some folks have over their diet to achieve an aesthetic goal, no? I have never had that discipline as I don't care enough about my aesthetic. But what if my self-mastery which has done me so well in my career, investments and personal relationships could be extended to all facets of my life, including the examples I gave in the thread.
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Have you tried fasting? One way to practice self mastery is to get into the practice fasting. It helps with self control in all other aspects of life.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
If you consider something to be degenerate, why do it?
Habit? That is why this isn't cope. If I could make a frittata or order burgers in the same amount of time why do it?

This is a simple answer but I am considering overall approaches against degeneracy. Someone mentioned earlier "no porn" and that might be a golden ticket as well.
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts⏩
In what sense are you a degenerate though? The form of degeneracy is important when considering how to deal with it.
degen as in prior to 2020ish i was a prick, straight up, then got my chit together for about 2yrs but then after some bullchit went down with my boss i lost all fuks to give mostly bc it finally showed me the true chit-nature of people and now i lost all ability to give a flying fuk about being all polite or respectful or whatever. dgaf who you are, if youre an O-5 Lt. Col or someone on the street, i aint got time for your chit and if i have something to say to defend myself or my stance on something, then im gonna say it.. if you dont like it then you can fuk right off regardless of consequence.
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Originally Posted By Deutschlandbrah⏩
I had too many close calls and got myself married which kinda forced me to clean up my act.
Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
I have. I used to sleep around and did a lot of drugs while drinking a ton. I'm married now and a wild weekend night is having a 6 pack before smashing the wife and passing out at 1030. I haven't cheated on my wife even when we were dating and never will. It's a good life and I highly recommend it
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Like a lot of these types of threads, there's numerous angles to think about for it.

The straight edge, consistent gym-goer, avoid all cheat days, never go to a restaurant / groceries-only-crew type of nerds have their health and fitness in check no doubt, perhaps even striving for and achieving peak level performance.

But this modern world harbors many fruits and conveniences that our ancestors and their ancestors could only DREAM of having access to. They would likely SMACK you for not enjoying the splendors and indulgences every once in a while.

I look at this from the lens of: This world is magical and varied, to avoid any and all such indulgences, is to commit to a life of intentional hardship and deprivation. I can respect someone doing this for religious intentions. But it's not too far off the rails to propose an individual pursuing such a life as having their own version of a mental illness. SRS.

Balance is key. Self-reflection and correction is key. A cheat day per week or two weeks is healthy for the psyche.
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Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
degen as in prior to 2020ish i was a prick, straight up, then got my chit together for about 2yrs but then after some bullchit went down with my boss i lost all fuks to give mostly bc it finally showed me the true chit-nature of people and now i lost all ability to give a flying fuk about being all polite or respectful or whatever. dgaf who you are, if youre an O-5 Lt. Col or someone on the street, i aint got time for your chit and if i have something to say to defend myself or my stance on something, then im gonna say it.. if you dont like it then you can fuk right off regardless of consequence.
The thing is (NYC checking in) there are lots of valueless folks out there, but why presume all are like that and then model your behavior in that way?

This isn't Grand Theft Auto. Why so many Americans are obsessed with ratchet behavior mystifies me.
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I’m in my degen phase rn ngl
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