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post 1678028703 02-27-2023, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Ah, I am thankful you made up a term that can be used to describe you ( and your ronaholic cohort ) to a tee.
I try my best to not engage in character attacks and especially not to create a character that easier to attack.
post 1678029273 02-27-2023, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Really?



How does this relate to dose dependence of immune response?



These read like policies you didn't like or disagreed with none of which are related to my comment regarding immune response being dependent on dose.



Okay. Is your position that immune response is not dose dependent?



This seems like criticism of mass media and policy, rather than arguing against my points.



I don't think I've ever insisted anyone do anything.



I'm not sure what this has to do with me, but I agree that government responses to the pandemic have decimated trust in public health and would extend that to science in general.
I never responded to you posting about immune response and dosing. I have no idea where you did that. You have me mixed up with someone else. It's comical how instead of keeping on topic you're deflecting again too. Stop making this this thread about yourself and your posts. D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N. Meh, it's like communicating with a bot.
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post 1678029463 02-27-2023, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Ad strawminem isn't really a thing.

But, I use the term to describe a situation where someone invents a ridiculous story about me and then uses that ridiculous story as a reason to not addressing anything actually contained in my posts.

Ad strawminems are more often than not, followed by a "trust me, bro"
Deflection again. Gee thanks for letting us know "Ad strawminem" isn't really a thing. No way anyone could have figured it out otherwise.
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post 1678029523 02-27-2023, 03:06 PM
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But how will the drug cartels lock us indoor and only allow us to come out and play unless we keep taking their drugs???
post 1678029633 02-27-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Ad strawminem isn't really a thing.

But, I use the term to describe a situation where someone invents a ridiculous story about me and then uses that ridiculous story as a reason to not addressing anything actually contained in my posts.

Ad strawminems are more often than not, followed by a "trust me, bro"
Strawminem lol sounds like a rapper.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I mean, what is JLC whining about then?



Thanks for playing wincel, maybe you should stick to spamming gay porn, you seem to be better at that.
That's not a definition.
post 1678029883 02-27-2023, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
I never responded to you posting about immune response and dosing. I have no idea where you did that. You have me mixed up with someone else. It's comical how instead of keeping on topic you're deflecting again too. Stop making this this thread about yourself and your posts. D-E-F-L-E-C-T-I-O-N. Meh, it's like communicating with a bot.
In a sense, yes. I've been very consistent in my position on vaccination. Now that the search function is kinda working that's easy to see.

My position has always been that it should be up to the individual to weight the health risks of infection versus the health risks of vaccination in order to make informed decisions for themselves and their dependents. My post history will confirm that.
Originally Posted By frankdtank20
Deflection again. Gee thanks for letting us know "Ad strawminem" isn't really a thing. No way anyone could have figured it out otherwise.
Interesting that you consider that a deflection, while an unrelated name-calling rant on mostly government policy is considered to be on topic.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So kinda like many suggested: balance the risks of immunonaive infection against the risks of vaccination.
Originally Posted By frankdtank20
Pipe down you botched abortion.1/3rd of the US population had already been infected by the time they were giving elderly their first jabs.Tyranny loving paniccels like yourself were everywhere denying prior infection should count for anything. Already infected? Too bad, get jabbed to be able to attend university.....even students taking entirely virtual classes. Tens of millions of people in the US were forced to get jabs after knowing they had already been infected. With especially Moderna's shots that was a problem.

-The CDC way downplayed natural immunity from the beginning. The CDC!!!
-For the second half of 2021 the CDC, including it's director Walensky lied that the jabs were superior to prior infection. Mass media ran with the lie.
-In the fall of 2020 the CDC had infections correct, a bit over 80 million through Halloween. When the vaccines were announced they backtracked claiming the number of already infected was much lower. All to get more Pfizer Pfluid in people's arms. Brazen corruption.

-All mass media said prior infection was next to worthless, as did corrupted doctors (i.e. Sanja Gupta and so many more) making the rounds on CNN, MSNBC, etc.
-Constant fake studies claiming natural immunity faded quickly, so jabs were the only way to stay protected.
-Essentially zero travel allowed between the US and Canada until vaxxed. Already infected? Worth nothing.
-Entire states disregarded prior infection, our 2 largest cities wouldn't let people eat in restaurants unless they had jabs.
-US President Joe Biden pissed on natural immunity by trying vaccine mandates after well over half of the US population had already been infected.
-The denial of natural immunity has let the CDC way overstate deaths from Covid, by at least double, probably closer to triple by now.


Fhagots like you were insisting everyone under 40 needed to get double jabbed despite risks from the vaccines being higher in young men than the virus. I could go on and on and make this 10,000 words easily about the denial of natural immunity in especially the US and Canada. The anti-science that was pushed, the denial of basic facts was everywhere. Our BOUGHT AND PAID FOR MEDIA were denying natural immunity to keep those Pfizer dollars rolling in.


Naked corruption, big government lovers pushing big government and Big Pharma lies.
Trust in public health and media are the lowest they've ever been thanks to you fhaggots. Deservedly so.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
Face it Winnie and JLC there's nothing you guys were right about with Covid. You copy pasted government and pharma propaganda as soon as they put it out, all of which has turned out to be wrong. Every step of the way. And the world is much worse off for your Branch Covidian beliefs.
Remember the Pfizer Director on camera just a month or so ago ADMITTING to some questionable shiit? At thevery leastit was 100% unethical. But what did our Resident Ronaholics do?

Defend him, defend Pfizer, and call for war against Project Veritas who exposed his ass lol.

But they're definitely not a cult though.

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post 1678030893 02-27-2023, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Remember the Pfizer Director on camera just a month or so ago ADMITTING to some questionable shiit? At thevery leastit was 100% unethical. But what did our Resident Ronaholics do?

Defend him, defend Pfizer, and call for war against Project Veritas who exposed his ass lol.

But they're definitely not a cult though.
It's interesting that anyone who questions or challenges the narrative gets grouped together.

My views are my own and I don't represent any other poster. No other poster represents me.
post 1678031403 02-27-2023, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing
But how will the drug cartels lock us indoor and only allow us to come out and play unless we keep taking their drugs???
No need to continue with that. They have customers for life through anti-science in nutrition and the federal govtstill telling people to eat a low fat, high carb diet.At the same time the same feds directly control the price of sugar. They also subsidize corn syrup and other sweeteners by subsidizing corn. So candy, soda, ice cream stay cheap. Pepsi, Coke, Breyer's laugh all the way to the bank. Millions of acres of farm land are used for the free govt money with corn, land that could be used for other crops. So fruits and veggies end up more expensive. Then:

-10% of food stamps go toward soda
-another 10% is spent on candy and prepared desserts
-the feds also directly control the wholesale price of regular milk

So the giant soda, candy and ice cream companies not only get their ingredients subsidized, they have Billions of government dollars coming to them through food stamps. And they have the feds telling people to eat low fat, which gives a push toward people eating hyper processed foods. All together = high rates of obesity, increasing rates of cancer, more heart disease.


TL;DR Junk food companies lobby Congress. Super markets are full of junk that make Americans fat and sick, subsidized by the feds. The feds push people away from meat and eggs, toward the junk food they subsidize. When Americans end up fat, cancerous, and full of heart disease the biggest lobby group of all enters the chat, Big Pharma. Billions upon Billions are sent to them from the feds.
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post 1678031663 02-27-2023, 03:52 PM
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He was quoting Woody's SNL monologue, fyi
post 1678031983 02-27-2023, 03:57 PM
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"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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Thats a sharp L for jabbies lmao
post 1678032543 02-27-2023, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
Thats a sharp L for jabbies lmao
How so?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's interesting that anyone who questions or challenges the narrative gets grouped together.

My views are my own and I don't represent any other poster. No other poster represents me.
Dude, YOU and wincel were the very two I was talking about. GTFO of here with crying about getting "grouped together" ffs.

But ok though, since you disagree, do you deny any of what I said about the Pfizer director and your defense of him?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's interesting that anyone who questions or challenges the narrative gets grouped together.

My views are my own and I don't represent any other poster. No other poster represents me.
Your views are whatever powerful people with ulterior motives tell you to think. You are immediately skeptical and attack anything that shows the government narratives were wrong from the start. You push political, mass media, and big pharma narratives: Rage For the Machine. You are in the camp of raging against the people questioning the corruption and anti-science since the beginning.

We've been gaslit for 3 years about Covid. Politicians and, mainstream and social media corporations accusing people of spreading misinformation were projecting. They were the ones spreading mis and disinformation. You're immediately on attack mode of anything that questions government narratives, but no skepticism about government or pharma narratives.

You define the word shill.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
Dude, YOU and wincel were the very two I was talking about. GTFO of here with crying about getting "grouped together" ffs.

But ok though, since you disagree, do you deny any of what I said about the Pfizer director and your defense of him?
I've never defended a Pfizer director though
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
Your views are whatever powerful people with ulterior motives tell you to think. You are immediately skeptical and attack anything that shows the government narratives were wrong from the start. You push political, mass media, and big pharma narratives: Rage For the Machine. You are in the camp of raging against the people questioning the corruption and anti-science since the beginning.

We've been gaslit for 3 years about Covid. Politicians and, mainstream and social media corporations accusing people of spreading misinformation were projecting. They were the ones spreading mis and disinformation. You're immediately on attack mode of anything that questions government narratives, but no skepticism about government or pharma narratives.

You define the word shill.
Nah.

I just ask for support for broad-sweeping, generalized, unsubstantiated claims.
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Didn’t read one post except OP. Going to assume resident Libs are saying it’s not true.
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Did an hr of cardio, now I see this thread is at 4 pages.

Let me guess, it's Wincel, J.L.C. and some other leftist or
two, going, "No........No........No........No.......No.......t he vaccine is superior!!!!!"
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Also,

"Shill:

If you refer to someone as a shill, you mean that they are paid to sell something or to participate in an activity in order to persuade others to buy or participate."

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di.../english/shill

None of that applies to me
post 1678033703 02-27-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Did an hr of cardio, now I see this thread is at 4 pages.

Let me guess, it's Wincel, J.L.C. and some other leftist or
two, going, "No........No........No........No.......No.......t he vaccine is superior!!!!!"
Fortunately, or unfortunately, nobody said that. However, it's an easier position to attack, so some are inclined to create that as my position.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
I prefer Merriam-Webster:

shill

2 of 2
noun
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: one who acts as a decoy (as for a pitchman or gambler)
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: one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

See?

Applies perfectly.
What do I promote or sell or pitch?

Questioning a narrative =/= sales or promotion
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I posted before the edit

It's intellectually dishonest to edit, but only if you question the narrative
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In response to edit, where or when have I ever encouraged anyone to do anything?
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Sheesh, more edits.

I question the misc narrative.
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I'd be completely rekt if anyone could find a post of me suggesting somebody else should receive a vaccine.

My money is on that not being possible.
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fkn lol @ jabbies.
MinisterOfLust: scooterbrah and Mcfreoko are the two worst posters here.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Thanks for ignoring the previous post.

My money is on that was due to you getting rekt already.
It's hard to keep up with your edits

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I've never defended a Pfizer director though
Pfizer "Mutating" COVID-19 Virus Themselves - Project Veritas
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=182714473

Dozens, if not hundreds of your posts in that thread "not defending."
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