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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩

He doesn’t care. Him, Reliance, and a handful of others showed in the other thread on this topic and basically just said “nuh uh, it’s still more likely that it is occurred naturally”. At this point very few people are ever gonna change their minds about anything Covid-related. They’ll just consider all of the things that would implicate it as an altered virus and say “so what…that doesn’t prove anything”.

It's funny and telling that you have to invent your own scare quotes when our own words are there in that thread to quote. Perhaps you like to invent your own dialectical enemies because you can't face the real ones. Also telling is that both Reliance and I have post-graduate degrees, and it definitely shows in our posting style.

I'll change my mind on anything with sufficient evidence. As of now, all the empirical evidence lies on the side of the natural origins. There is empirical evidence I've seen supports it, and a lot of it is difficult if not impossible to explain via lab leak because it contradicts just everything we know about virology and molecular biology. How many people can honestly say they've thoroughly read the evidence provided by James Duehr, PhD, for example?

There is no empirical evidence for lab leak. And this claim from the DOE is being massively hyperbolized in right-wing media, they say there is low confidence and this is a very tentative suggestion. It's not proof or evidence or a win for lab leak. And they admit the scientific community is still unanimous on natural origins for the most part. Right now, even, I could show you a wealth of powerful evidence that it'snotan altered virus.


In the court of science, empirical evidence is only what matters. Emails and letters and smoke filled rooms don't. You do sound awfully proud of yourself, though. Maybe sew this into a leather jacket and walk around in style?:

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩

Imagine still trying to defend natural origin.

Remember when those 2 scientists emailed fauci early on and said there’s no way this virus was natural? And then he gave them hush money to be quiet?

Imagine being so programmed

There's a cult-like appeal toanyauthority that fits the chosen narrative, regardless of being corrupt, self-serving kunts who have already shown how willing they are to sacrifice others for their own game.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

It's funny and telling that you have to invent your own scare quotes when our own words are there in that thread to quote. Perhaps you like to invent your own dialectical enemies because you can't face the real ones. Also telling is that both Reliance and I have post-graduate degrees, and it definitely shows in our posting style.

I'll change my mind on anything with sufficient evidence. As of now, all the empirical evidence lies on the side of the natural origins. There is empirical evidence I've seen supports it, and a lot of it is difficult if not impossible to explain via lab leak because it contradicts just everything we know about virology and molecular biology. How many people can honestly say they've thoroughly read the evidence provided by James Duehr, PhD, for example?

There is no empirical evidence for lab leak. And this claim from the DOE is being massively hyperbolized in right-wing media, they say there is low confidence and this is a very tentative suggestion. It's not proof or evidence or a win for lab leak. And they admit the scientific community is still unanimous on natural origins for the most part. Right now, even, I could show you a wealth of powerful evidence that it'snotan altered virus.


In the court of science, empirical evidence is only what matters. Emails and letters and smoke filled rooms don't. You do sound awfully proud of yourself, though. Maybe sew this into a leather jacket and walk around in style?:

all i got from this is "im bodgy and im a chit smearing ****g0t thats wrong about everything."


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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

It's funny and telling that you have to invent your own scare quotes when our own words are there in that thread to quote. Perhaps you like to invent your own dialectical enemies because you can't face the real ones. Also telling is that both Reliance and I have post-graduate degrees, and it definitely shows in our posting style.

I'll change my mind on anything with sufficient evidence. As of now, all the empirical evidence lies on the side of the natural origins. There is empirical evidence I've seen supports it, and a lot of it is difficult if not impossible to explain via lab leak because it contradicts just everything we know about virology and molecular biology. How many people can honestly say they've thoroughly read the evidence provided by James Duehr, PhD, for example?

There is no empirical evidence for lab leak. And this claim from the DOE is being massively hyperbolized in right-wing media, they say there is low confidence and this is a very tentative suggestion. It's not proof or evidence or a win for lab leak. And they admit the scientific community is still unanimous on natural origins for the most part. Right now, even, I could show you a wealth of powerful evidence that it'snotan altered virus.


In the court of science, empirical evidence is only what matters. Emails and letters and smoke filled rooms don't. You do sound awfully proud of yourself, though. Maybe sew this into a leather jacket and walk around in style?:

Your posting style is indicative of a post-graduate degree!? You quite literally imitated my lexicon just after you read one of my posts. Your “posting style” (lmao) Is indicative of nothing more than your pseudointellectualism and ability to regurgitate other peoples original thoughts.

You might be the single biggest loser to ever post on this forum, and that’s saying a lot.

Every time you name-drop James Duehr, I literally laugh.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Just read this sentence alone, it's pure jokes:

"In the court of science, empirical evidence is only what matters. Emails and letters and smoke filled rooms don't. "

Our buddy doesn't even have a two year community college diploma.

"Court of science"?
Double "and"?
Incomplete sentences?

Just fukin LOL.

“Empirical evidence is only what matters”.

Amazing syntax from a post-graduate, future Albert Einstein.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Just read this sentence alone, it's pure jokes:

"In the court of science, empirical evidence is only what matters. Emails and letters and smoke filled rooms don't. "

Our buddy doesn't even have a two year community college diploma.

"Court of science"?
Double "and"?
Incomplete sentences?

Just fukin LOL.

Yes, I have more than a two year community college diploma. I'm at the PhD level, remember? The guy who actually forked out the money has enough evidence of that, now.


How about instead of nitpicking over the most trivial and pedantic chit, and your lame AF insults--which is legit aspie-tier behaviour--how about you mount a case for your position which is scientifically respectable?


So, in the court of science, only empirical evidence matters. 5 days ago, you had nothing. What is new as of today, which is actually relevant in the court of science? Because it looks a hell of a lot like more speculation about what's going on in smoke-filled rooms, to me.

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

"In the court of science, only empirical evidence matters".

Please provide the empirical evidence that proves natural origin.

Checkmate.

No, that's shifting the burden of proof (and our case already exists, anyway which I've discussed at massive length from 2020 onwards (in b4 accusation of plagiarism)). The OP makes a claim that apparently the Chicken Nugget Crew have emerged as victorious. So we would want to see what new evidence has appeared for the lab leak hypothesis.

If your case is to be scientifically cogent, you need empirical evidence. A hypothesis, preferably falsifiable, which you've put to the test with experiment. Can you offer any of this?

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Interesting how you are unable to present this "empirical evidence" that you are babbling on about post after post.

I can, and have presented it long ago. I usually do whenever the topic appears. But you're shifting the burden of proof. It's also 2am here and I'm badly in need of sleep so I really, really, lack the time or inclination to deal with your BS right now.

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

Stop. In this thread alone you have described yourself as post-graduate, and then later as “at least under-graduate”. Then we have the following post:

Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩

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Met her recently. Not only is she gorgeous, attractive, amazing body, well-educated, interesting, funny,articulate and intelligent, she's also doing a PhD in the exact same topic Ididmine on. And believe, it literally defies probability to find a girl who looks like this and does a PhD in my kind of field.


Amazing chemistry we had, great conversations, great rapport, so many mutual interests, same desired career path, and I must reiterate, unbelievably we're in PhD's on the exact same subject matter. It feels like pure serendipity.


Of course, it is way too early to pronounce this is really 'the one', because, of course, there could be some latent baggage which will only surface in time, but fuark man, this is my kind of wife material.



Ask me anything.

Which implies that you have a PhD, yet you’ve told us prior that you’re still in the process.

You absolute, unmistakable fraud.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

You're assuming that I am claiming that since you can't prove natural origin, it's a lab leak. I just explained that is not what I am claiming, hence I am not "shifting the burden of proof".

So again...

Interesting how you are unable to present this "empirical evidence" that you are babbling on about post after post.

I didn't accuse you of that, that would be an argument from ignorance. Lab leakers do make this argument from ignorance all the time--as one particular non-lifting fraud does here-- but this is not my accusation towards you.


I'm claiming you're shifting the burden of proof here, and you are. The OP unambiguously states he's got a winning argument here and the Nugget Crew were right about this one. I'm politely enough asking to see the evidence and you refuse to provide it.

You've assumed a burden and I'm not violating any precept of debate by asking for the case to be made. Rather than do this, you've not only deliberately tried to divert this into personal attacks--and you've had to dig up something from 2021 to attack me with, again, which is pathetic AF--and shift the burden of proof by claiming the natural origins case has never been presented.

Which is just a lie. The natural origins case has been presented.


Can I take this sleight of hand as admission that you're just not up to par with scientifically respectable evidential standards, and I can finally go to bed now?

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

I am merely requesting the same level of "empirical proof" to be submitted to the "court of science", as you are requesting of others.

Since you are unable to present it, after numerous requests, I am forced to assume that you have nothing of the sort.

He’s obviously not trained in epistemology, and has no idea what “empirical” actually means. INB4 random data points in a jigsaw puzzle made by Jesus James Dhoody are conclusive because they’re measurable and therefore empirical. MUH EMPIRICISM

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

I am merely requesting the same level of "empirical proof" to be submitted to the "court of science", as you are requesting of others.

Since you are unable to present it, after numerous requests, I am forced to assume that you have nothing of the sort.

You're shifting the burden of proof, though. The natural origins case already exists. It's been discussed here plenty of times. There's no empirical case for the lab leak, and the OP suggests this is a substantial nuggety victory which would also imply there's fresh, new evidence here.


I'm simply asking to see it. That's not an unreasonable request and you can't shift the burden of proof here. You're resorting to personal attacks again whilst the little elves in your head are furiously bashing away to make another boogeyman of course, but all that suggests to me is you can't substantiate the OP's claims.


I'm content to rest with this being a bowl of hyperbole and you're really just backpedalling away from OP's indefensible claims. I don't really blame you.

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Perhaps you need to read my post again. Here it is for your convenience:

I am not refusing to "provide" "evidence" for OP, and quite frankly, I am not sure why you are asking me for it. I am not OP, and I have not made any claims in this thread regarding the origin of the virus.

I am merely requesting the same level of "empirical proof" to be submitted to the "court of science", as you are requesting of others.

Since you are unable to present it, after numerous requests, I am forced to assume that you have nothing of the sort.

Really, last post here because it's really too late, but you're shifting the burden of proof by demanding the case for natural origins. The OP makes a bold claim but wanting of evidence. I can't see what tenet of debating and argument I'm violating. But I can see yours quite clearly.

I'll come back in the morning and I fully expect to see diversion and lame personal insults, but no actual evidence.

Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.

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