TLDW: His argument is that women are not attracted to jerks or bad boys or the "dark triad" personality traits. It's that the men who women *are* attracted to (high value men) realize that they don't have to put effort into being nice, kind, compassionate, understanding, sensitive, and other "nice guy" traits. The men women are not attracted to (low value men) are simply trying to compensate the best they can by being "nice". Women do like these traits, but they don't care about them all that much.

What do you humps think? I agree with him and think he does a good job debunking the nonsense idea that a low value man can increase his attractiveness by acting like a jerk. It shows a complete misunderstanding of the dynamics at play.

Agreed on the point that the typical low value man is not going to start slaying by being a jerk.

However, I wonder how circular the earlier conclusion might be. While they are selecting for high value men and not for negative traits themselves, those negative traits may be a heuristic that women have determined is useful in quickly identifying likely high value men (because it suggests that a given man may have an abundance mentality, which might provide the woman with more information than his looks alone can provide).

Also, while he may be broadly correct, it doesn't account for the surprising number of attractive, "good" girls who are drawn to low-class piece of chit guys.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bradlehman again."

You might be right, but "low class" doesn't necessarily mean low-value. The guy could be tall, good-looking, physically strong, have a large dick, etc. Some women also have fetishes, which is why you'll sometimes see attractive "good girl" Asian chicks with less attractive White guys, for example. Her fetish makes the guy high value *to her*.

Made a thread about this exact same topic like 2 years ago.


Thats my theory as well. Its not that girls like "*******s", its just that the top 10-20% of guys simply dont have to fake being nice in order to get a woman's attention. Men that attractive have options, so they dont have to lie, manipulate, be overly nice or kind, they treat women like they arent that special. No need to bring them flowers or shower them with attention, gifts, or good morning/night texts every night, because these guys know the girl is going to be there either way.

These guys will ghost a girl or blow her off like nothing because attractive girls arent special to them. In contrast, average guys treat attractive women like they are godessess walking the earth, they worship attractive girls because they dont have any other way of being noticed by them.



Nice guys arent being genuine as well, its just a manipulation tactic in order to lower a woman's defenses. Top tier guys dont have to bull****, they just are who they are and treat women like they treat every human being, no special treatment.


I often see women complain about how they have 20 guys obsessed with them or courting them, asking them out etc and yet the one guy they truly want doesnt even pay them attention, and they wonder why is that? Well the reality is that the one guy is wanted by every other girl too, because hes attractive. Its not just a coincidence that this guy doesnt show interest or isnt nice, and its not that all those girls like *******s, hes just the most attractive one hence why he gets to simply be himself, aka not give a **** about other people, just like humans are built.


When you are a top 10% guy, you are wanted by pretty much every woman, taken or not. You cant be nice to every woman because then you will have an army of women obsessed with you making your life hard, thinking they are in love with you or simply intoxicating your existence. You fix that by being cold and not showing more interest than necessary.


Also show me a super nice guy, the type of guy that treats women like godesses, give him 5 inches more of height, a godlike physique and million dollars in the bank and see how quick he stops being "the nice guy".

I'm not so sure. I saw another video where a woman said it's because "bad boys" aren't afraid of showing their shadow self, using Jungian terminology. A lot of sluts are apparently trying to put on a face and they are attracted to men who seemingly don't have to fake it like they do.

I mean women cheat on high value dudes all the time with losers with bad boy attitudes

I thought he was going to be a nerd loser trying to decipher female sexual attraction through data. But after watching the video I agree with him.

The simple truth is females put a pretty low emphasis on smart, loyal, nice, guys. While those may be 'good' or 'desirable' qualities. The men that have those qualities are not desirable to women.




I have a close friend that's been a massive player his entire life. He's cheated on every girlfriend/wife he's ever had. Now in his 40s, you might imagine that a guy like that would not be very desirable for women in his age bracket (30s-40s). But the cold hard truth is he just married a new girl in her early 30s. He told her straight up that if he gets bored or annoyed by her he would cheat on her. He openly admitted to her that he's cheated on every single girl he's been in a relationship with. But she was all too happy to fall in love and marry him.


This guy is not a chad or anything but he knows how to have fun. He knows how to make girls feel like they are having fun/in love. And he hasn't been single/lonely at any point in his life. I really doubt if he's had a 'dry spell' longer then a few days since he was in high school. Even in his mid 30s he's dated some girls that were 19-20 years old. (Pumped and dumped usually).

I agree with 90% of what you are saying, but the guy in the video goes further, and I more agree with him in saying that - all things being equal - women actually prefer "nice guy" characteristics. Attractive guys who also just so happen to be nice are adored by women. Think of The Rock or dozens of other male celebrities who women love. Almost all of them, or most of them anyway, have a reputation for being super-nice.

Being a good guy makes The Rock even more attractive. It's just that if he was a jerk, he'd still be wanted by women, but he might be a 9.9 instead of a 10.

This idea that you can act your way into being attractive is mostly pure bullchit. However, you can act your way into being unattractive, so it does make sense to learn basic social skills and flirting is a skill that absolutely needs to be learned, even for most attractive guys.

But acting like a bad boy - yeah homie, that ain't gonna work out for you.

If The Rock would start partying on yachts having orgies with a ton of HBB's. Only date girls under 25 like Leo. Etc. women would still love him. If anything he'd probably gain a larger audience/fan-base.

When the left was trying to tank Trump by outing him for cheating on his wife/plowing pornstars, for talking about grabbing girls by the pussy, etc. You might think it would have turned his conservative/religious following against him.

It didn't. Nobody really cared. Liberals were 'out-raged' all over social media. But everyone else either thought it was funny or completely ignored it. I don't know a single female that had an issue with him plowing and paying Stormy Daniels or talking about grabbing women by the pussy. Its pretty much expected that high profile/powerful men do these things.

Yeah, 100% agree on that as well. Women arent turned off by niceness, nor do nice guys finish last. Take a guy that looks like Adonis, with a million+ in the bank, a cool car, who also treats his one woman like a princess? Thats literally the dream of every woman, thats her disney fantasy. Thats literally the prince charming fantasy, a guy that is desired by every woman on earth yet only has eyes for one, treats her like a queen, fuks her like a 5k prostitute for an hour straight, etc.


Women literally will obsess over prince charming type of guys for their entire lifetimes. And no, they wouldnt ever cheat on their prince charming with a random bike gang leader with 10 grams of coke up his nose or something just because hes "dangerous". At least not the vast majority of them.



Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Henry Cavill, The Rock, all those guys are seen as gods by women. They are the ultimate fantasy. Being nice and charismatic is an incredibly positive trait,when its genuine. Women can smell when it isnt genuine. And also, even if genuine, it wont ever beat a guy that isnt nice nor charismatic but is naturally hot or attractive, when its 1vs1 women prefer raw sexual attraction.

Definitely can be interpreted that way too, rich Chad have np pulling sloots same reason why good looking people tend to be azzhole cuz they don't have to to work on their personality

I said this.

But I disagree with you in that I think women would find him slightly less attractive - not more attractive.

If given the choice between good guy The Rock and jerk The Rock, vast majority of women chose the good guy version.

It's been ingrained into guys heads that women like bad boys, when the truth is they like guys who are physically attractive and are high-value, and they won't deduct many points if those guys happen to act like jerks or bad boys. That is a fundamental difference.