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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lol, went there and accomplished what? Brought attention to an accident that his administration helped cause and that is in the news 24 x 7?

cot damn you cultist are beyond retarded...

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Reading all over the news how all this deregulation helped set up the circumstances for this derailment situation and how Tuck the Cuck is blaming this train and situation on anti white racist train tracks. I would have hoped trump went to Ohio to apologize for helping create an environment for such a catastrophe but he never apologizes because he is an assh0le just like all his sycophant supporters.
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
Reading all over the news how all this deregulation helped set up the circumstances for this derailment situation and how Tuck the Cuck is blaming this train and situation on anti white racist train tracks. I would have hoped trump went to Ohio to apologize for helping create an environment for such a catastrophe but he never apologizes Bethesda is an assh0le just like all his sycophant supporters.
But bro.. Trump showed up and threw rolls of paper towels at the lowly peasants looking for Trump memorabilia. He CARES!!!
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One should always be skeptical of single cause explanation in complex systems. In a single, isolated system, it’s generally a single cause, but in a multi system set up, single cause is extremely rare. So the “trump caused this!” Is not the explanation.

A rare issue with a wheel occurred called a Hot box. This is when a wheel gets overheated and malfunctions/breaks. A detector at certain locations of the rail check for heat and give notice of the problem. The detector went off, but the failure occurred too fast and the train wasn’t able to stop.

So now that we established that, what would have caused such a rare thing to happen? Usually it comes from human error somewhere along the process. In this case, it was likely due to a shortage of workers which lead to a lack of quality controls. Why was there a shortage of workers? Because of the bad economy that lead to a loss of jobs. Why was there a bad economy?

I’ll let you fill in the rest. Either way, again, this is where the left lacks logic and reason. The media plays on the hate for Trump, and their defense of Biden, and the inability to think reasonable and logically. It’s very easy to fool individuals who use emotions to make decisions.

Just to add; deregulation generally adds to jobs and profits, not a loss. There is no logical explanation that would lead to deregulation here.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I get this thread was probably supposed to be tongue in cheek, though there seems to be a lot of serious posts as well.


I'm more pointing out the absurd responses by Trumpers than attacking Trump himself over the totality of what actually happened.

Biden was being attacked incessantly for this:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/oh...aster-adf4c949


Trump later takes advantage of the situation, making a token gesture to gain a political advantage, and the response is "Yay! At least he's doing something!"

So I'm not buying the argument that it's anti-Trumpers who are being disingenuous here.


Regarding Trump himself? Yes, free bottles of water are nice, but fuk him for yet again making it about himself instead of MAGA.
I dont care or want to buy in to the childish squabbling about everyones deep psyche because its a zero sum game. I dont know why you guys play it.

Did Trump do something good? Yes. Are Trumpers praising him for it? Who gives a fuk.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
One should always be skeptical of single cause explanation in complex systems. In a single, isolated system, it’s generally a single cause, but in a multi system set up, single cause is extremely rare. So the “trump caused this!” Is not the explanation.

A rare issue with a wheel occurred called a Hot box. This is when a wheel gets overheated and malfunctions/breaks. A detector at certain locations of the rail check for heat and give notice of the problem. The detector went off, but the failure occurred too fast and the train wasn’t able to stop.

So now that we established that, what would have caused such a rare thing to happen? Usually it comes from human error somewhere along the process. In this case, it was likely due to a shortage of workers which lead to a lack of quality controls. Why was there a shortage of workers? Because of the bad economy that lead to a loss of jobs. Why was there a bad economy?

I’ll let you fill in the rest. Either way, again, this is where the left lacks logic and reason. The media plays on the hate for Trump, and their defense of Biden, and the inability to think reasonable and logically. It’s very easy to fool individuals who use emotions to make decisions.
Flawed logic riddled with inaccuracies.

The issues with wheel bearings aren't rare, there are ~1.5 million rail cars in use in the US and obviously they are loaded with massive weight and used in extreme conditions. In fact, bearing failure is common enough that rail operators have relied on trackside detectors (these are what's sometimes referred to as hotboxes) for half a century now.

So now that we've established that, try starting over with your "logic and reason" for blaming the left, the media, and tHe BiDeN eCoNoMy.
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
Reading all over the news how all this deregulation helped set up the circumstances for this derailment situation and how Tuck the Cuck is blaming this train and situation on anti white racist train tracks. I would have hoped trump went to Ohio to apologize for helping create an environment for such a catastrophe but he never apologizes because he is an assh0le just like all his sycophant supporters.
Just lol at not thinking that Trump's insistence on deregulation didn't play a part in this. It could have been as nebulous an impact as companies knowing they wouldn't be penalized for negligent safety so they just let it slip during Trump's horrid 4 years. Got to make money to buy back stocks and give fat executive bonuses and grease the market. That's all Trump GAF about.

Oh wait, he showed up with his chitty water and bought some people some burgers while sucking all the attention to himself.

Quite the guy you fools worship...SAD
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Flawed logic riddled with inaccuracies.

The issues with wheel bearings aren't rare, there are ~1.5 million rail cars in use in the US and obviously they are loaded with massive weight and used in extreme conditions. In fact, bearing failure is common enough that rail operators have relied on trackside detectors (these are what's sometimes referred to as hotboxes) for half a century now.

So now that we've established that, try starting over with your "logic and reason" for blaming the left, the media, and tHe BiDeN eCoNoMy.
Why isnt the media covering all those grassroots projects helping the Ohio citizens and instead saying things like, "thats what you deserve" ?
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
I dont care or want to buy in to the childish squabbling about everyones deep psyche because its a zero sum game. I dont know why you guys play it.

Did Trump do something good? Yes. Are Trumpers praising him for it? Who gives a fuk.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Why isnt the media covering all those grassroots projects helping the Ohio citizens and instead saying things like, "thats what you deserve" ?
There isn't actually a water shortage in East Palastine, so a few hundred cases of donated water isn't going to make national news except when Turnmph does it.

It does make people feel good about helping out though, so it's all good.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Why isnt the media covering all those grassroots projects helping the Ohio citizens and instead saying things like, "thats what you deserve" ?
Why do you feed the trolls? You want a reasonable response, you will only get insults, deflections, conjecture, and naivety.
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
Reading all over the news how all this deregulation helped set up the circumstances for this derailment situation and how Tuck the Cuck is blaming this train and situation on anti white racist train tracks. I would have hoped trump went to Ohio to apologize for helping create an environment for such a catastrophe but he never apologizes because he is an assh0le just like all his sycophant supporters.
Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Just lol at not thinking that Trump's insistence on deregulation didn't play a part in this. It could have been as nebulous an impact as companies knowing they wouldn't be penalized for negligent safety so they just let it slip during Trump's horrid 4 years. Got to make money to buy back stocks and give fat executive bonuses and grease the market. That's all Trump GAF about.

Oh wait, he showed up with his chitty water and bought some people some burgers while sucking all the attention to himself.

Quite the guy you fools worship...SAD
Both of you are spreading misinformation, according to the Chair of the NTSB. His deregulation had nothing to do with this crash. The train still would not have qualified for ECP brakes, even if the regulation was in place. Trump literally had nothing to do with it. Read below.

And LOL @ being so mad that Trump actually went while your boy Biden went and paid off Zelensky with more US Tax Dollars when he could have been helping real Americans.


Trump is a Real President™

Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
False




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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Why do you feed the trolls? You want a reasonable response, you will only get insults, deflections, conjecture, and naivety.
You're allowed to see my posts as unreasonable, but more often than not they are honest and factual with no attempt to legitimize blatant bullchit.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Both of you are spreading misinformation, according to the Chair of the NTSB. His deregulation had nothing to do with this crash. The train still would not have qualified for ECP brakes, even if the regulation was in place. Trump literally had nothing to do with it. Read below.

And LOL @ being so mad that Trump actually went while your boy Biden went and paid off the Zelensky with more US Tax Dollar.'


Trump is a Real President™
Again boyo, establishing an environment where regulations are openly attacked with a moronic "make 1 get rid of two" policy establishes a much higher risk tolerance for these companies. They'll push the envelope, not spend money on maintenance, etc because they know they are working in an environment created by a president that values shareholder, executive, and stock market enrichment above all else. Like Trump or his minions actually GAF about safety and the environment?

Ever heard the term "reap what you sow"? You cultist brought us Trump and his "phuk everything but making money policy." And here we are.

I blame this on you people.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Trump is a Real President™
You have the trademark in the wrong place no?

He's like Real™ cheese. To me. Dammit.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Again boyo, establishing an environment where regulations are openly attacked with a moronic "make 1 get rid of two" policy establishes a much higher risk tolerance for these companies. They'll push the envelope, not spend money on maintenance, etc because they know they are working in an environment created by a president that values shareholder, executive, and stock market enrichment above all else. Like Trump or his minions actually GAF about safety and the environment?

Ever heard the term "reap what you sow"? You cultist brought us Trump and his "phuk everything but making money policy." And here we are.

I blame this on you people.
Didn't read a single word, but just wanted to let you know:



Trump is a real President™
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Trump is a Real President™
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You have the trademark in the wrong place no?

He's like Real™ cheese. To me. Dammit.
LoL these cultist are sad AF. I can practically hear him crying while saying that phrase.


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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Didn't read a single word, but just wanted to let you know:



Trump is a real President™
lol, watching him get curbstomped by senile Joe in 24 is gonna be even more buriful than all the elections he and his election denying tards have lost over the last 5 years.

Simply buriful.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Didn't read a single word, but just wanted to let you know:



Trump is a real President™
Trump's not going to have sex with you just because you keep White Knighting him dude.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong

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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You have the trademark in the wrong place no?

He's like Real™ cheese. To me. Dammit.
Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
LoL these cultist are sad AF. I can practically hear him crying while saying that phrase.


Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
lol, watching him get curbstomped by senile Joe in 24 is gonna be even more buriful than all the elections he and his election denying tards have lost over the last 5 years.

Simply buriful.
Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Trump's not going to have sex with you just because you keep White Knighting him dude.
^Look at how quickly I can get these geeks triggered af.



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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Trump's not going to have sex with you just because you keep White Knighting him dude.
Don't burst the guys bubble dude. Have a heart.

It's ok lil' gwg, maybe Trump will let you give his fat orange ass a squeeze or something...

lmfao
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All this crying because Trump went to a disaster area (whether he was doing it for optics, goodwill or both)

Amazing.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
^Look at how quickly I can get these geeks triggered af.
Don't push me 'cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to lose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes
It makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under…~ (Melvin Glover, better known by his stage name Melle Mel and Grandmaster Melle Mel, is an American hip hop recording artist who was the lead vocalist and songwriter of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five.)

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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
So because the dems haven't undone every single one of Trump's horrible decisions in two short years it's their fault? Oh wait, you're the moron advising folks to eliminate their credit score...

LMFAO
Wow, cute deflection while pretending good financial advice should be mocked.

I didn't say anything about "undo every single one of Trump's decisions" (another cute deflection and false claim). How can you possibly be irate over theLIEthat Trump-era policy changes caused this accident, and not equally irate that Biden-era policies on this topic are exactly the same...because neither Biden nor Buttigieg actually cared enough about the issue to do anything.

Once again: If you push the fictional claim that Trump policies caused this incident, then you must equally blame those same policies in place under Biden for the past two years.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Wow, cute deflection while pretending good financial advice should be mocked.

I didn't say anything about "undo every single one of Trump's decisions" (another cute deflection and false claim). How can you possibly be irate over theLIEthat Trump-era policy changes caused this accident, and not equally irate that Biden-era policies on this topic are exactly the same...because neither Biden nor Buttigieg actually cared enough about the issue to do anything.

Once again: If you push the fictional claim that Trump policies caused this incident, then you must equally blame those same policies in place under Biden for the past two years.
Obama put the legislation through but did not even enforce it. The NTSB just ignored the administration and they let it slide.
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People are still pushing the myth that derailment is somehow Trump's fault? Lol.
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife⏩
People are still pushing the myth that derailment is somehow Trump's fault? Lol.
Yep. The usual low-information libs who constantly get duped by mainstream media.
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩
Yep. The usual low-information libs who constantly get duped by mainstream media.
The media reported what officials said.. and yes they did blame Trump's deregulations. Does that mean Trump is directly responsible? Of course not. But to act like Trump didn't deregulate the rail industry is laughable. Almost as laughable as removing two regulation for every new one.
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Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
All this crying because Trump went to a disaster area (whether he was doing it for optics, goodwill or both)

Amazing.
listen man if that train didn't derail do you think trump would of sent them water and bought the emergency crews burgers?
no.
because he isn't classy like Biden who shows up in all kinds of random small towns where nothing happens with truckloads of water and fast food just because he is that awesome.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
The media reported what officials said.. and yes they did blame Trump's deregulations. Does that mean Trump is directly responsible? Of course not. But to act like Trump didn't deregulate the rail industry is laughable. Almost as laughable as removing two regulation for every new one.
patty's cultist chant.

"the media reported it"
"the media reported it"
"the media reported it"
"the media reported it"
"orangemanbad"

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SAD.
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