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post 1678365883 03-04-2023, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By adamsz
pretty crazy considering Jon's wrestling has looked like dog chit against Santos and Reyes. Could get them down and keep them down for the life of him.

Wonder if he just wasn't training wrestling enough at that time, or if the skill gap is just that big between LHW and HW. Or if he just got really lucky in this fight.
Thats why I keep wondering if Gane just has no grappling at all, or did he not train it? It doesn't add up. Gane was almost a waste of time, Stipe can grapple decently.
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post 1678365923 03-04-2023, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn
We have to to have Ngannou Jones. BRING OUT THE CHECKBOOK DANA
Daddy Dana is never letting Ngannou in a UFC ring again
post 1678365943 03-04-2023, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Tehcelltech
Cleaned out the LHW division nearly a decade ago and seems to be on track to do the same to HW.

Feel bad for the rest of HW.
Don't know. We haven't really seen him yet in the HW. Even a not-so-great Jones would submit Gane. I mean he is just a bad match up stylistically. Would like to see him tested against a faster, more grappling proficient fighter.
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Originally Posted By iwant2beswole
jones vs ngannou might be the biggest ppv numbers of all time??
Nnganou vs Brock Lesnar = biggest fight if all time

Ngannou vs Tyson Fury too
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn
jones is the fakest person i've ever seen
Salty?
post 1678366033 03-04-2023, 11:07 PM
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Gane shocked guy known for amazing wrestling did wrestling to him
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post 1678366043 03-04-2023, 11:07 PM
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kinda strange seeing jon jones look that big.

people say he gained alot of fat but he put on at least 30 lbs. his back looks thick af srs.

would honestly liked to have seen this fight drag on to really see how his cardio would hold up and how he carries his weight. at least he seems strong af.

stipe is too old to do chit
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post 1678366063 03-04-2023, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah
Lol rigged.
Not sure if serious
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
Salty?
about what?
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
Salty?
We all want a hero, bro.

Jon is the goat but he is the β€œhero” no one with an ounce of integrity wants

I get it, it’s the fight game and these aren’t church rows…
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Originally Posted By benedetto27
Fuark my stream is behind, hasn't even started yet for me lol.
Lulz
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Originally Posted By sooby
kinda strange seeing jon jones look that big.

people say he gained alot of fat but he put on at least 30 lbs. his back looks thick af srs.

would honestly liked to have seen this fight drag on to really see how his cardio would hold up and how he carries his weight. at least he seems strong af.

stipe is too old to do chit
Yea, I still think good chance he would gas given the bodyfat and big jump in size, but I'm not sure there's anyone in HW division skilled enough to get him to round 4.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
StipeStipeThe entire heavyweight division is scared
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
We all want a hero, bro.

Jon is the goat but he is the β€œhero” no one with an ounce of integrity wants

I get it, it’s the fight game and these aren’t church rows…
I love Jon the fighter. No one is perfect. Even on misc I see people putting others down but you have no ideas what demons they are fighting. I couldn't care less what Jon has done in his personal life
post 1678366443 03-04-2023, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn
Yea, I still think good chance he would gas given the bodyfat and big jump in size, but I'm not sure there's anyone in HW division skilled enough to get him to round 4.
yeah, he would pretty much run a train on the whole division

heavyweight division still too one-dimensional

tuivasa only has KO power
Gane apparently can't grapple
Pavlovich would get grappled
Blaydes might have the best chance
Aspinall not yet
Lewis/Rozenstruick probably not, unless flash KO
Volkov no
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I was quite shocked at how big he looked in there. I think he'd be wise to drop a bit of weight for Stipe because he doesn't need to be that big. The cardio is the only question. If he still has legit 5 round cardio (for a HW), it's over for these bums lol. Sadly we didn't really get to see much in this fight. Gane just mentally capitulated almost instantly.

We're witnessing greatness tho. Like genuine greatness. People will be looking at his record in 100 years and wondering what it was like back then, like we do from fighters in the early 1900s. Crazy.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
He didn't walk out to "i'm coming home". Now I'm confident Gane ****s him up. Dead srs
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Originally Posted By Lefticle
Fixed
DC would sleep him

jones only wins cause he is a better grappler than 99% of lhw and hw abd he fights dirty

and has long reach and legs

DC was the clostest to beating him
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post 1678366563 03-04-2023, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
I love Jon the fighter. No one is perfect. Even on misc I see people putting others down but you have no ideas what demons they are fighting. I couldn't care less what Jon has done in his personal life
If you are able to separate it, cool…and I get that it’s a sport.


I can’t separate it, however…I have some β€œgoofy” moral code that won’t let me pull for a guy that beats on his wife and smashes his car into pregnant women while geeked.


You do you, I will do me thumbsup.jpeg
post 1678366573 03-04-2023, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
You gon switch up on me too bro? I saw your prediction
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Originally Posted By sooby
yeah, he would pretty much run a train on the whole division

heavyweight division still too one-dimensional

tuivasa only has KO power
Gane apparently can't grapple
Pavlovich would get grappled
Blaydes might have the best chance
Aspinall not yet
Lewis/Rozenstruick probably not, unless flash KO
Volkov no
Agree. Stipe is the most well rounded but jones is better everywhere. Could see Lewis getting a lucky KO in rd1.
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Stipe can't do ****. I'd be shockd.
He might stop some takedowns but on the feet.. you need more than just hands..especially against that reach and stipe is kind of a blockhead with cte
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I'm wondering if Bo Nickal wouldn't beat Gane. Gane needs to go to AKA and train with them wrestling boys 2x/day for the next year. Anyone with any wrestling will dominate him now.
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Y'all are talking like Jones is gonna try to fight all these dudes at HW.
He's 35 now and will probably fight 1 more time or twice if we're lucky.
After Stipe, who else is worth his time? Maybe Lesnar or Ngannou for a Freak money fight but that's it.
post 1678366833 03-04-2023, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic
Y'all are talking like Jones is gonna try to fight all these dudes at HW.
He's 35 now and will probably fight 1 more time or twice if we're lucky.
After Stipe, who else is worth his time? Maybe Lesnar or Ngannou for a Freak money fight but that's it.
Brock Lesnar is 45.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
You gon switch up on me too bro? I saw your prediction
I was nervous and I lost faith a little.

Please forgive me
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn
Agree. Stipe is the most well rounded but jones is better everywhere. Could see Lewis getting a lucky KO in rd1.
sadly a 40 year old man might actually have the best chance vs jones
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post 1678366903 03-04-2023, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn
Brock Lesnar is 45.
Damn! I thought I was old.

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Originally Posted By CanardMedic
Y'all are talking like Jones is gonna try to fight all these dudes at HW.
He's 35 now and will probably fight 1 more time or twice if we're lucky.
After Stipe, who else is worth his time? Maybe Lesnar or Ngannou for a Freak money fight but that's it.
He just signed a 9 fight deal. I know that doesn't mean he has to fight but he seems to want to make up for lost time and make some real money. He's most likely fighting in July then I wouldn't be shocked to see him on the big November card.
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