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**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION
03-02-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
Shorts can be part of a hedged position right, but possibly more likely is naked shortingQuestion for the group, if an insider owns 90% of the shares and short interest is 15% is the 15% measured on the 10% or is it wrong? How can it be greater than 10% if the insider owns 90%?
I doubt insiders would short their own stock?
I doubt insiders would short their own stock?
I think Tesla needed to be ready to pull the trigger on a new model line and sell it soon tbh. We now know there is nothing coming in the next 2-3 years that will be super high volume like the 3/Y. With interest rates where they are and tax credits likely reducing then being offset by more costly domestic and free trade battery components/minerals…
You simply cannot flood the world with million upon millions of the same thing without creating downward pricing pressure. If I were a betting man, I’d say more downward pressure is coming and that will likely pressure margins.
Robotaxis etc are somewhere off in the relatively distant future if possible at all, at least generalized robotaxis.
03-02-2023, 12:58 PM
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google around on the insider and float not sure.
also yeah should be Model 2 and Tesla Van . It was always the rumor. however those targets just lmaooo.
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got wrecked on ES futures short today.
cause some Fed speaker went herp derp 25BPS March meeting which market already knew.
-$4,500 in like 5 minutes.
also yeah should be Model 2 and Tesla Van . It was always the rumor. however those targets just lmaooo.
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got wrecked on ES futures short today.
cause some Fed speaker went herp derp 25BPS March meeting which market already knew.
-$4,500 in like 5 minutes.
03-02-2023, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I think it was because he mentioned the word "pause" at the end of the summer so the algos went wild.google around on the insider and float not sure.
also yeah should be Model 2 and Tesla Van . It was always the rumor. however those targets just lmaooo.
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got wrecked on ES futures short today.
cause some Fed speaker went herp derp 25BPS March meeting which market already knew.
-$4,500 in like 5 minutes.
also yeah should be Model 2 and Tesla Van . It was always the rumor. however those targets just lmaooo.
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got wrecked on ES futures short today.
cause some Fed speaker went herp derp 25BPS March meeting which market already knew.
-$4,500 in like 5 minutes.
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03-02-2023, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By reinsdorfsucks⏩
yeah just saw the replay today market... clown fed speakers at it again.I think it was because he mentioned the word "pause" at the end of the summer so the algos went wild.
phucking algos lol
I had short on with stop loss.
thought sp was going to 3920.
put it on in morning thought it was gonna trigger.
opened laptop 30 minutes before close and green dildos from hell.
those fed speakers are very delusional.
yields are mooning again
dxy rebounded
03-03-2023, 11:05 AM
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going to try and sell a cash secured put for the first time sometime in the future.
let me know if this is correct.
for example, if I wanted to pick up 100 shares of AMD and collect premium is this how to do it.
Option type: PUT
Transaction type: Buy to open (is this correct?)
Option: 3/10
Price : $72
Quantity : 1
Limit Price: .10
Principal: $10
commission: $1
net: $11
if it hits $72, i better have enough funds to buy the 100 shares & collect $10
if it expires and doesn't hit $72, i collect $10 premium
let me know if this is correct.
for example, if I wanted to pick up 100 shares of AMD and collect premium is this how to do it.
Option type: PUT
Transaction type: Buy to open (is this correct?)
Option: 3/10
Price : $72
Quantity : 1
Limit Price: .10
Principal: $10
commission: $1
net: $11
if it hits $72, i better have enough funds to buy the 100 shares & collect $10
if it expires and doesn't hit $72, i collect $10 premium
03-03-2023, 11:38 AM
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03-03-2023, 11:50 AM
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Been bagging GNS during the last couple of weeks. Finally getting out of the red.
03-03-2023, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
Its sell to open.going to try and sell a cash secured put for the first time sometime in the future.
let me know if this is correct.
for example, if I wanted to pick up 100 shares of AMD and collect premium is this how to do it.
Option type: PUT
Transaction type: Buy to open (is this correct?)
Option: 3/10
Price : $72
Quantity : 1
Limit Price: .10
Principal: $10
commission: $1
net: $11
if it hits $72, i better have enough funds to buy the 100 shares & collect $10
if it expires and doesn't hit $72, i collect $10 premium
let me know if this is correct.
for example, if I wanted to pick up 100 shares of AMD and collect premium is this how to do it.
Option type: PUT
Transaction type: Buy to open (is this correct?)
Option: 3/10
Price : $72
Quantity : 1
Limit Price: .10
Principal: $10
commission: $1
net: $11
if it hits $72, i better have enough funds to buy the 100 shares & collect $10
if it expires and doesn't hit $72, i collect $10 premium
Also yeah on other part.
You can use calculator like here.
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator....cured-put.html
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unrelated.
no thanks on options geoff.
I flipped long today buying futures and worked well.
markets be crazy.
03-03-2023, 12:44 PM
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It’s about time to short F and WBA for me. Picking $20 for WBA a year out. $9.35 for ford. Cost to borrow is gonna rail F and WBA is gonna start hemorrhaging as board of pharmacy complaints reach critical mass due to their inability to keep their stores open.
Feel free to inverse me
Feel free to inverse me

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03-03-2023, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
thanks. on spread homie.Its sell to open.
Also yeah on other part.
You can use calculator like here.
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator....cured-put.html
Also yeah on other part.
You can use calculator like here.
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator....cured-put.html
03-03-2023, 01:34 PM
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DFN.to
FTN.to
Both pay upwards of 15% dividend, with monthly dividend payouts.
Any miscers aware of these Split shares?
FTN.to
Both pay upwards of 15% dividend, with monthly dividend payouts.
Any miscers aware of these Split shares?
03-03-2023, 01:38 PM
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I think I may buy a few more shares of SQQQ after todays market bounce
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03-04-2023, 12:23 AM
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03-04-2023, 02:13 AM
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AI hype is very much real bros, but its hard to judge how much of a moat NVDA has, Id be ok buying in $180-200 range but I dont see it going down. I could see it forming a cult following like TSLA
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03-06-2023, 12:22 PM
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03-06-2023, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By dankydank⏩
Companies are making so much money even at $70Crude been ranging straight up and down from $70 to $80 for almost half a year now. Might finally break $80 this time
03-06-2023, 01:35 PM
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Are we still crashing right now?
This thread is sooo quiet now lol.
Most of this thread thought we were crashing and some were even rejoicing in profits just a week ago lol.

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03-06-2023, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
And STILL nobody has posted the catalyst that will crash the market.Are we still crashing right now?
This thread is sooo quiet now lol.
Most of this thread thought we were crashing and some were even rejoicing in profits just a week ago lol.
This thread is sooo quiet now lol.
Most of this thread thought we were crashing and some were even rejoicing in profits just a week ago lol.
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03-06-2023, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
yolo Suncor. Think I'm in for around 2,000 shares now.Yield %s here are pretty skewed because I had used previous gains to buy SU so the actual book cost is quite a bit lower than shown, but scope out the regular dividends as of 4Q22


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03-06-2023, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I usually wait till the week of.How often do those of you who write calls, take a loss and roll out to another strike? Do you typically wait until expiry to do that or at anytime?
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03-07-2023, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Fuk yeahyolo Suncor. Think I'm in for around 2,000 shares now.
Originally Posted By dankydank⏩
Commodities are reacting to Powell's testimony along with the overall market I think. If rates go higher and stay higher for longer, everything will be under pressure but companies that fare better will be those with lots of free cash flow and ability to do dividends, buybacks, etc.70-80-70 crude cycle starts again. Need a way to play this. Oil companies stopped tracking crude
03-07-2023, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
One of my few greens right nowThis was interesting.
PE ratio is sky high but that doesn't matter much anymore as we all know
Lookin like its going to keep on going up with this trend, hard to tell if I should trim more or wait
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03-07-2023, 11:30 AM
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Anyone holding Chesapeake? They just did a 15 year deal with Gunvor yesterday
Also inb4 Powell walks back everything tomorrow
Also inb4 Powell walks back everything tomorrow
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03-07-2023, 12:30 PM
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