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03-15-2023, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
No idea i think he wanted a self ban, but I cant keep up with all of the "odd birds" here.why was Dorich banned, what happened to that dude?
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03-15-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Now lets post what Dave00 has called people over the years; he is really good at name calling and not so much..... making relevant political points.You mean like Wincel spamming the boards with homo pics? Or Jayarbie calling us a bunch of selfish *******s for being unvaccinated? Or Patty calling posters ****ggot? SillieBazzillie using homosexual slurs as an insult?
He does ask a chitton of questions though.
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03-15-2023, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Lies.I have to read this goofy crap, because you quoted him:
1) Pat is known to take screenshots of legitimate wrong-think neg messages left for him.
2) Pat is white.
Nobody left 'super racist' messages on his user cp. He's butthurt because I broke silence and exposed him for the nasty racial slur he left about my wife, right before I broke and (gross on my part) brought his sick kid into it as retaliation. I am hard pressed to think of what 'super racist' things someone could say about a white guy but if someone did, Pat would be making threads and linking a screen grab of it.
Now, with our spat: I at least had enough wherewithal to know I crossed a line, Pat won't and took his private gross messages about wives to the public airspace, all while complaining people were talking chit about his wife (and how, I don't know, I only prodded him over his diabetic kid).
Pat is projecting, as always. Makes me think he's got alts as well, something I've never accused him of, but now that I think of all the times he's accused me of having alts, being US_ranger, this new Grank guy, a hidden mod and whatever, since he can *only* project, that must mean he has alts himself.
1) Pat is known to take screenshots of legitimate wrong-think neg messages left for him.
2) Pat is white.
Nobody left 'super racist' messages on his user cp. He's butthurt because I broke silence and exposed him for the nasty racial slur he left about my wife, right before I broke and (gross on my part) brought his sick kid into it as retaliation. I am hard pressed to think of what 'super racist' things someone could say about a white guy but if someone did, Pat would be making threads and linking a screen grab of it.
Now, with our spat: I at least had enough wherewithal to know I crossed a line, Pat won't and took his private gross messages about wives to the public airspace, all while complaining people were talking chit about his wife (and how, I don't know, I only prodded him over his diabetic kid).
Pat is projecting, as always. Makes me think he's got alts as well, something I've never accused him of, but now that I think of all the times he's accused me of having alts, being US_ranger, this new Grank guy, a hidden mod and whatever, since he can *only* project, that must mean he has alts himself.
1. I haven't taken screen shots.. I quoted those comments straight from my CP
2. JUSA and US_Ranger started leaving me long, drawn out, over the top trying to insult type negs - always back to back.
3. My comments about his wife were public.. and they were based on what another user posted. I have never once sent JUSA a private message.
4. I only insulted his wife AFTER he attacked my wife and kids - JUSA did nothing in retaliation. Everything has been 100% him first.
The only thing this moron didn't lie about was me being white.
03-15-2023, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
And good old Benny never disagrees with a leftist, no matter what they say.......Now lets post what Dave00 has called people over the years; he is really good at name calling and not so much..... making relevant political points.
He does ask a chitton of questions though.
He does ask a chitton of questions though.
03-15-2023, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
By who? And if it's some alt troll, then who gives a ****?Neg comment was: "Kill yourself neeger lover." and more after that but nothing to do with race.
03-15-2023, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
DogKrack?Neg comment was: "Kill yourself neeger lover." and more after that but nothing to do with race.
Wincel called me a Nazi and that was after I said my dad, brothers, and sister were Jewish lol. (step-family)
03-15-2023, 10:14 PM
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Pretty ironic and hilarious seeing some of the forum's worst offenders posting in this thread about name calling lmao
Wort ew in th wold.
03-15-2023, 10:28 PM
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BOZZ got BOZZED?
what timeline are we living in?
it truly is the end of times
what timeline are we living in?
it truly is the end of times
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
03-16-2023, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Well whoever it was doesn't know Pat very well at all, then. Pat turned a blind eye when his friend Bodhy was calling black posters bootlip and I want to say other racist things. He's no friend to black people at all. Pat has also openly said racist things about two races and in private one more. So, just all around not an insult fitting to a racist like Pat.By who? And if it's some alt troll, then who gives a ****?
Should have called him a peedo groomer-lover instead.
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03-16-2023, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
and jayarbie is a libertarianHe's a moderate/centrist though, and definitely not a lib.

03-16-2023, 05:26 AM
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There's way too much animosity on the forum for sure. But the nature of American politics lays out the foundation for that.
This sub is confirmation bias, namecalling and bs. Some people actually hold a conversation, but it rarely happens tbh.
This sub is confirmation bias, namecalling and bs. Some people actually hold a conversation, but it rarely happens tbh.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Correct, he's not a lib, he likes guns......but he's also for gun control, and attacks the gun lobby......He's a moderate/centrist though, and definitely not a lib.

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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller⏩
who are you?There's way too much animosity on the forum for sure. But the nature of American politics lays out the foundation for that.
This sub is confirmation bias, namecalling and bs. Some people actually hold a conversation, but it rarely happens tbh.
This sub is confirmation bias, namecalling and bs. Some people actually hold a conversation, but it rarely happens tbh.
03-16-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Exactly.who are you?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Mirin' his join date, he might not be a regular, but he's no March 2023 red, either.who are you?
Plus, it was a fairly accurate assessment of this forum. There is a lot of animosity. I actually think it's worse these days, which maybe politics is uglier now than it's been.
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03-16-2023, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
right but the boards are what we make of them - I come here for the animosity - I wish we had two sides that could argue well but for whatever reason we only get loony leftists here. So I come here for the animosity and go elsewhere for discussion with both sides contributing.Mirin' his join date, he might not be a regular, but he's no March 2023 red, either.
Plus, it was a fairly accurate assessment of this forum. There is a lot of animosity. I actually think it's worse these days, which maybe politics is uglier now than it's been.
Plus, it was a fairly accurate assessment of this forum. There is a lot of animosity. I actually think it's worse these days, which maybe politics is uglier now than it's been.
03-16-2023, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Do we? I think we, and I include myself here, but we have been propping up these awful posters and giving them so much attention. Sillie can be decent and friendly, other times just off-the-rails insane: guess which of his posts generate the most interest/responses? Bodhy, no comment. NYPat? Okay, there is a guy who is literally got to be 70-80 IQ, dumb as fuking rocks and just a complete drooling idiot -- we all, I've done it and continue to do it, but we always love to bring up that buffoon.right but the boards are what we make of them - I come here for the animosity - I wish we had two sides that could argue well but for whatever reasonwe only get loony leftists here. So I come here for the animosity and go elsewhere for discussion with both sides contributing.
I think it's because they often do take utterly ridiculous positions and then they're also easy targets (not talking about all left posters, just the 'bad' ones who get all the airtime)?
I came to the decision, I'd rather spend time talking with people I simply disagree with. Take JLC, strongly pro-vaccine and for the life of my I do not understand his perspective on these Drag Queens... *but* he's not an idiot, he's not insulting, he's not a 74-IQ drooling NY dipchit screaming like a child. So, whatever, I'd rather just debate with him and maybe at figure out what his thought process is and possibly even get him to reflect on his own stance somewhat.
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03-16-2023, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
sorry but yea if he thinks drag shows are appropriate for kids he falls in looney category to meDo we? I think we, and I include myself here, but we have been propping up these awful posters and giving them so much attention. Sillie can be decent and friendly, other times just off-the-rails insane: guess which of his posts generate the most interest/responses? Bodhy, no comment. NYPat? Okay, there is a guy who is literally got to be 70-80 IQ, dumb as fuking rocks and just a complete drooling idiot -- we all, I've done it and continue to do it, but we always love to bring up that buffoon.
I think it's because they often do take utterly ridiculous positions and then they're also easy targets (not talking about all left posters, just the 'bad' ones who get all the airtime)?
I came to the decision, I'd rather spend time talking with people I simply disagree with. Take JLC, strongly pro-vaccine and for the life of my I do not understand his perspective on these Drag Queens... *but* he's not an idiot, he's not insulting, he's not a 74-IQ drooling NY dipchit screaming like a child. So, whatever, I'd rather just debate with him and maybe at figure out what his thought process is and possibly even get him to reflect on his own stance somewhat.
I think it's because they often do take utterly ridiculous positions and then they're also easy targets (not talking about all left posters, just the 'bad' ones who get all the airtime)?
I came to the decision, I'd rather spend time talking with people I simply disagree with. Take JLC, strongly pro-vaccine and for the life of my I do not understand his perspective on these Drag Queens... *but* he's not an idiot, he's not insulting, he's not a 74-IQ drooling NY dipchit screaming like a child. So, whatever, I'd rather just debate with him and maybe at figure out what his thought process is and possibly even get him to reflect on his own stance somewhat.
03-16-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Also, while he may not be inflammatory or whatever...he certainly uses some incredibly disingenuous and intellectually dishonest debate tactics.sorry but yea if he thinks drag shows are appropriate for kids he falls in looney category to me
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Tbh, I think many members argue against imagined versions of liberals. A lot of posters here, when you simply disagree with them, go off on things that you never even said. Things like 'groomer' lose all meaning and get thrown around for literally nothing. Every thread is the same insults getting thrown around by bitter people. People seemingly enjoy kidfukkers getting exposed when they happen to belong to 'the other side'. It's weird af. And both 'sides' have a lot of kidfukkers too. There's not really any winning to do there.Do we? I think we, and I include myself here, but we have been propping up these awful posters and giving them so much attention. Sillie can be decent and friendly, other times just off-the-rails insane: guess which of his posts generate the most interest/responses? Bodhy, no comment. NYPat? Okay, there is a guy who is literally got to be 70-80 IQ, dumb as fuking rocks and just a complete drooling idiot -- we all, I've done it and continue to do it, but we always love to bring up that buffoon.
I think it's because they often do take utterly ridiculous positions and then they're also easy targets (not talking about all left posters, just the 'bad' ones who get all the airtime)?
I came to the decision, I'd rather spend time talking with people I simply disagree with. Take JLC, strongly pro-vaccine and for the life of my I do not understand his perspective on these Drag Queens... *but* he's not an idiot, he's not insulting, he's not a 74-IQ drooling NY dipchit screaming like a child. So, whatever, I'd rather just debate with him and maybe at figure out what his thought process is and possibly even get him to reflect on his own stance somewhat.
I think it's because they often do take utterly ridiculous positions and then they're also easy targets (not talking about all left posters, just the 'bad' ones who get all the airtime)?
I came to the decision, I'd rather spend time talking with people I simply disagree with. Take JLC, strongly pro-vaccine and for the life of my I do not understand his perspective on these Drag Queens... *but* he's not an idiot, he's not insulting, he's not a 74-IQ drooling NY dipchit screaming like a child. So, whatever, I'd rather just debate with him and maybe at figure out what his thought process is and possibly even get him to reflect on his own stance somewhat.
There is very little room for debate when every thread is an echo chamber of people fighting imaginary blue haired genderfluid libcucks. It's okay for a little while but there is very little to learn from others here and why talk at all when you never intend to isten to someone.
Not to mention the amount of people who preach misinformation from wildly retarded sources and present them as facts. People giving opinions on legal issues with 0 knowledge and also presenting them as facts... Insane. There is 0 nuance, just people coming to the table wanting something to be true and sacrificing all logic to get to that point, not realizing they just justified something for themselves alone, never objectively proving a point.
You might as well read Area 51 theories, srs.
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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller⏩
but there isn't a liberal policy that isn't defended by someone here filling the role of blue haired genderfluid libcucks - that's the reason people respond that way.There is very little room for debate when every thread is an echo chamber of people fighting imaginary blue haired genderfluid libcucks. It's okay for a little while but there is very little to learn from others here and why talk at all when you never intend to isten to someone.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Pretty much proving the point.but there isn't a liberal policy that isn't defended by someone here filling the role of blue haired genderfluid libcucks - that's the reason people respond that way.
I have many viewpoints that are not considered liberal and many that are. I don't really identify as being part of either party, R or D. I support whichever candidate makes the most sense given the needs of whatever region/level they are running for. But if I disagree with what is conservative, just one thing, a lot of the heavy postsers in this sub go bananas. I can literally point out objectively false legal statements and if they go against the interests of a guy like Trump, all bets are suddenly off. Despite me saying exactly the same things when a guy like Biden runs into the same things.
I'm just saying, people aren't here to talk. They're here to screach. Take this exchange right here as an example. Your first reaction disregarded everything I said, not talking about the content of the post. And your second one confirmed you are kinda fighting imaginary people here. Not saying every 'lib' is any different btw. But I see a lot of people saying normal stuff and then it's just followed by insults and whatnot. Why would anyone with decent mental health participate here on a consistent basis? You can literally state facts without judgement and half the guys here flip their shet because it might be negative for a guy batting for their team. That's insane. If I vote for a guy on one day and the next day there is some good evidence that he did something wrong, I want him to get investigated so I can see if he still deserves my vote or not. I need that guy to face scrutiny so I know if he's any use for me or not. I will not blindly defend him as if he's my dad.
We're not sticking to facts here either. I can say that I don't care that dudes dress in drag in private/private clubs/events for interested people and that dudes fuk each other (because that has 0 impact on me), half of the conservatives here will suddenly assume that I encourage kids doing drag shows or some shet. When I don't agree with that AT ALL. But there you are, reading a bunch of retarded comments and never reaching the original subject again unless you drag those people back to it every single time.
Not to mention this sub has by far the most butthurt people lmao. Guys pretending they're all cool and then leaving the most unhinged negs with death wishes because you said you're awaiting results of an investigation on person x before passing judgement but that it doesn't look good. Ah, very healthy.
If you enjoy just screaming at each other, fine. But it is what it is. Surely you'd enjoy an actual decent conversation more than this?
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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller⏩
You still don't get it. Going back to calling people groomer, they were defending grooming hence they get called that. I disagree with your assessment of this place in paragraphs 1 and 2. Also I believe you are wrong in paragraph 3 as I have been to drag shows, I have problem if people do that but it isn't child appropriate and the people in those arguments were defending children attending the shows.Pretty much proving the point.
I have many viewpoints that are not considered liberal and many that are. I don't really identify as being part of either party, R or D. I support whichever candidate makes the most sense given the needs of whatever region/level they are running for. But if I disagree with what is conservative, just one thing, a lot of the heavy postsers in this sub go bananas. I can literally point out objectively false legal statements and if they go against the interests of a guy like Trump, all bets are suddenly off. Despite me saying exactly the same things when a guy like Biden runs into the same things.
I'm just saying, people aren't here to talk. They're here to screach. Take this exchange right here as an example. Your first reaction disregarded everything I said, not talking about the content of the post. And your second one confirmed you are kinda fighting imaginary people here. Not saying every 'lib' is any different btw. But I see a lot of people saying normal stuff and then it's just followed by insults and whatnot. Why would anyone with decent mental health participate here on a consistent basis? You can literally state facts without judgement and half the guys here flip their shet because it might be negative for a guy batting for their team. That's insane. If I vote for a guy on one day and the next day there is some good evidence that he did something wrong, I want him to get investigated so I can see if he still deserves my vote or not. I need that guy to face scrutiny so I know if he's any use for me or not. I will not blindly defend him as if he's my dad.
We're not sticking to facts here either. I can say that I don't care that dudes dress in drag in private/private clubs/events for interested people and that dudes fuk each other (because that has 0 impact on me), half of the conservatives here will suddenly assume that I encourage kids doing drag shows or some shet. When I don't agree with that AT ALL. But there you are, reading a bunch of retarded comments and never reaching the original subject again unless you drag those people back to it every single time.
Not to mention this sub has by far the most butthurt people lmao. Guys pretending they're all cool and then leaving the most unhinged negs with death wishes because you said you're awaiting results of an investigation on person x before passing judgement but that it doesn't look good. Ah, very healthy.
If you enjoy just screaming at each other, fine. But it is what it is. Surely you'd enjoy an actual decent conversation more than this?
I have many viewpoints that are not considered liberal and many that are. I don't really identify as being part of either party, R or D. I support whichever candidate makes the most sense given the needs of whatever region/level they are running for. But if I disagree with what is conservative, just one thing, a lot of the heavy postsers in this sub go bananas. I can literally point out objectively false legal statements and if they go against the interests of a guy like Trump, all bets are suddenly off. Despite me saying exactly the same things when a guy like Biden runs into the same things.
I'm just saying, people aren't here to talk. They're here to screach. Take this exchange right here as an example. Your first reaction disregarded everything I said, not talking about the content of the post. And your second one confirmed you are kinda fighting imaginary people here. Not saying every 'lib' is any different btw. But I see a lot of people saying normal stuff and then it's just followed by insults and whatnot. Why would anyone with decent mental health participate here on a consistent basis? You can literally state facts without judgement and half the guys here flip their shet because it might be negative for a guy batting for their team. That's insane. If I vote for a guy on one day and the next day there is some good evidence that he did something wrong, I want him to get investigated so I can see if he still deserves my vote or not. I need that guy to face scrutiny so I know if he's any use for me or not. I will not blindly defend him as if he's my dad.
We're not sticking to facts here either. I can say that I don't care that dudes dress in drag in private/private clubs/events for interested people and that dudes fuk each other (because that has 0 impact on me), half of the conservatives here will suddenly assume that I encourage kids doing drag shows or some shet. When I don't agree with that AT ALL. But there you are, reading a bunch of retarded comments and never reaching the original subject again unless you drag those people back to it every single time.
Not to mention this sub has by far the most butthurt people lmao. Guys pretending they're all cool and then leaving the most unhinged negs with death wishes because you said you're awaiting results of an investigation on person x before passing judgement but that it doesn't look good. Ah, very healthy.
If you enjoy just screaming at each other, fine. But it is what it is. Surely you'd enjoy an actual decent conversation more than this?
I do enjoy a lot of true back and forth discussions with people of differing viewpoints. But not here because there are not enough people with differing viewpoint that can hold a conversation without going off the deep end - that's why this place devolved the way it has. those that could left. those that remain are screechers - hence my first comment to you, I don't know who you are
edit, adjustment to the paragraph numbers and clarification in the last sentence.
03-17-2023, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
No I get it just fine. But again, the word groomer is thrown around all the time. It gets thrown around when it doesn't matter at all. Or are you saying asically everyone on this sub is a groomer? It's insane. No way is it reserved for someone here who is supposedly grooming kids or defending it.You still don't get it. Going back to calling people groomer, they were defending grooming hence they get called that. I disagree with your assessment of this place in paragraphs 1 and 2. Also I believe you are wrong in paragraph 3 as I have been to drag shows, I have problem if people do that but it isn't child appropriate and the people in those arguments were defending children attending the shows.
I do enjoy a lot of true back and forth discussions with people of differing viewpoints. But not here because there are not enough people with differing viewpoint that can hold a conversation without going off the deep end - that's why this place devolved the way it has. those that could left. those that remain are screechers - hence my first comment to you, I don't know who you are
edit, adjustment to the paragraph numbers and clarification in the last sentence.
I do enjoy a lot of true back and forth discussions with people of differing viewpoints. But not here because there are not enough people with differing viewpoint that can hold a conversation without going off the deep end - that's why this place devolved the way it has. those that could left. those that remain are screechers - hence my first comment to you, I don't know who you are
edit, adjustment to the paragraph numbers and clarification in the last sentence.
And yeah I barely post here because between the screaching, the insane conspiracy theories and the butthurt dudes there isn't much of value here. This talk right here with you is literally the most constructive one I've seen on this board in the past year or so.
Just look at the thread titles LMAO.
Permanent reminder that MBisonSon is a fgt => https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=181456073
Permanent reminder of his cowardly and embarrassing response => https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=181466023 (if this link is dead, the cuckening is complete)
03-17-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Midgetkiller⏩
True, but it gets thrown around in the same way some people on the left like to make broad generalized negative groupings for people on the right.No I get it just fine. But again, the word groomer is thrown around all the time. It gets thrown around when it doesn't matter at all.
Redneck, Cultist, Racist, etc...
Both coming from the stance of taking a grain of truth and making a bigger deal of it. So, while the Democrats/left agenda seem hell-bent lately to normalize drag queens, for whatever reason, just as people on the right are more likely to be rednecks or support Trump. People take that and run with it.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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