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It's nice to see how our society has normalized the concept of sexualizing children. Also...for the first time in my life, I agree with feminist about how we are living in a patriarchal country full misogyny. Women aren't just being turned into 2nd class citizens...men are now trying to completely erase them as a whole...and what's the reason behind this madness? Well as a society, we now covet the feelings of less than 1% of the population of men who happen to be mentally ill sexual deviants over the safety of children and rights of women.

I'm a Nhilist and ALL religion and spirituality is nothing more than voodoo to me but in my personal opinion...this is what happens when a society turns its back on the teachings of Christianity.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
who and where are you seeing this?

what you are being told is hateful is most likely people refusing to be advocates for the lifestyles not a desire to exterminate people
LOL. We have multiple people ITT who unironically want these people to basically be removed from society.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Yea so you basically want to marginalize and erase them. Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. And that's just a start right? What's the end? Extermination? Fuk off.
Where did he say that? It was probably the "interacting with kids" part he was referring to.

As I've said before - putting this shyt in front of small and very impressionable young children is troubling. A portion of kids, who aren't legit trans, are likely to see this shyt (having adults paraded around in front of them and the like) and think that's the "cool" thing to be or whatever and then...start wanting to be or identifying as a trans because again...they see it as "cool". I mean, there's been various points in history (including 80's hair metal and times in France) were being very androgynous or effeminate was the really "in" thing. I think it's dangerous to assume that with all of these surgeries/hormone therapies/the agenda going on that a lot of those same people (who would likely regret it later) might have been considering "gender reassignment" or the like.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
That would work too except any kid can observe the differences. "Daddy why does that guy talk funny?" "Daddy why does Billy have 2 dads/moms?" "Daddy why does that man have a dress on and wear makeup?" "Daddy is it weird that I like Billy and he likes me? Other kids made fun of us."

Kids deal with this chit everyday. At very young ages. You can't hide the reality of LGBT people from them. We don't have that society anymore where we marginalize and exterminate these people.
Let me tell you exactly what happens

why does that guy talk funny? you actually get this question from kids a fair amount and you say - I don't know, maybe he is from another country and English isn't his first language

Daddy why does Billy have two Daddies? - because his daddies love one another

Daddy why is that man wearing a dress? - (I asked my parents this when I saw Boy George) - because he likes it

Daddy is it weird that I like Billy and he likes me? - Nope. You can't really control who you like/love

Not hard
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Criminal prosecution of homosexuals in the Soviet Union (1946-1991) : numbers and discourses

https://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/67530


From emancipation to criminalisation: Stalinist persecution of homosexuals from 1934

https://www.marxist.com/from-emancip...-from-1934.htm
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
LOL. We have multiple people ITT who unironically want these people to basically be removed from society.
whom?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well let's see, we don't want them on biological women sports teams, or to use their locker rooms, or their bathrooms, or their prisons. Guess that makes us Nazis......

And we don't believe they should be glorified and celebrated.
Except what you are saying is isomorphic to:

"We don't want them using public bathrooms, playing sports, using locker rooms, and we'd rather put them in solitary confinement or condemn them to be violently raped and/or murdered." And you also want to pretend they don't exist.

There is no nice way to assign them to bathrooms, sports, or prisons because we constrained ourselves to "2 genders" and dichotomized everything. What needs to happen is a more careful approach of how we assign who goes where. And we need to make prisons safer in general and stop treating rape as an acceptable punishment for crime.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
LOL. We have multiple people ITT who unironically want these people to basically be removed from society.
You do know, because of the way things are, people are even afraid to answer a simple question, "What is a Woman?"

Also, I can literally walk into a female locker room, and just be like, "I identify as female," and nothing will happen to me.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
whom?
Dave and the larping Russian who pretends to be black.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
You do know, because of the way things are, people are even afraid to answer a simple question, "What is a Woman?"

Also, I can literally walk into a female locker room, and just be like, "I identify as female," and nothing will happen to me.
Nobody is afraid. The issue is acknowledging there is such a thing as a trans woman. Yeah except it says male on your ID and you'd be trolling, and everyone would know it.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Except what you are saying is isomorphic to:

"We don't want them using public bathrooms, playing sports, using locker rooms, and we'd rather put them in solitary confinement or condemn them to be violently raped and/or murdered." And you also want to pretend they don't exist.

There is no nice way to assign them to bathrooms, sports, or prisons because we constrained ourselves to "2 genders" and dichotomized everything. What needs to happen is a more careful approach of how we assign who goes where. And we need to make prisons safer in general and stoo treating rape as an acceptable punishment for crime.
They're dominating female sports, they're raping women in prison, and they're walking around with their dick swinging in the locker room, and leering at females changing.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Dave and the larping Russian who pretends to be black.
Dave is this true, do you want all trans and gay people to be removed from society?


I don't know who the other one is that you are referring to
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Criminal prosecution of homosexuals in the Soviet Union (1946-1991) : numbers and discourses

https://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/67530


From emancipation to criminalisation: Stalinist persecution of homosexuals from 1934

https://www.marxist.com/from-emancip...-from-1934.htm
You said Communism.

Stalin and Lenin's interpretations and implementations came after Marx was dead.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Where did he say that? It was probably the "interacting with kids" part he was referring to.

As I've said before - putting this shyt in front of small and very impressionable young children is troubling. A portion of kids, who aren't legit trans, are likely to see this shyt (having adults paraded around in front of them and the like) and think that's the "cool" thing to be or whatever and then...start wanting to be or identifying as a trans because again...they see it as "cool". I mean, there's been various points in history (including 80's hair metal and times in France) were being very androgynous or effeminate was the really "in" thing. I think it's dangerous to assume that with all of these surgeries/hormone therapies/the agenda going on that a lot of those same people (who would likely regret it later) might have been considering "gender reassignment" or the like.
What you are describing is basically conversion therapy in reverse. It didn't work. It doesn't work. You can't environmentally change a person's gender or sexuality. If you could, people would ungay gays.

I think the vast majority of people who are srsly considering transitioning are pretty fking trans dude. Even if they regret it later, which some do, the vast majority do not. And it is understandably hard for them. Society should try to help these people, not laugh at them.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
What you are describing is basically conversion therapy in reverse. It didn't work. It doesn't work. You can't environmentally change a person's gender or sexuality. If you could, people would ungay gays.
so how do you account for the people that have now detransitioned?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Criminal prosecution of homosexuals in the Soviet Union (1946-1991) : numbers and discourses

https://cadmus.eui.eu/handle/1814/67530


From emancipation to criminalisation: Stalinist persecution of homosexuals from 1934

https://www.marxist.com/from-emancip...-from-1934.htm
You're doing that thing again and judging historical figures by modern moral norms rather than those of their time. Tell me again how Thomas Jefferson was a bad guy.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
LOL. We have multiple people ITT who unironically want these people to basically be removed from society.
Here's a weird concept...if you expect people to accept your lifestyle, you need to oblige them with the same respect when it comes to their faith. The 1% of people who try and normalize this lifestyle also have the power to label the majority as bigots if they refuse to accept it...stop playing the victim card. These freaks have a stranglehold on all social aspects of our society and will have you believe that your opinions are dangerous and potentially harmful. Im a true conservative so I just want them to have their rights but i will never support it or accept it as anything less than a complete sexual perversion.

You comand respect, you don't demand it.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
so how do you account for the people that have now detransitioned?
Some regret it later. It's a very serious change. It doesn't mean the condition is environmental. It means they didn't fully fit either box.
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Originally Posted By Irezumi
Here's a weird concept...if you expect people to accept your lifestyle, you need to oblige them with the same respect when it comes to their faith. The 1% of people who try and normalize this lifestyle also have the power to label the majority as bigots if they refuse to accept it...stop playing the victim card. These freaks have a stranglehold on all social aspects of our society and will have you believe that your opinions are dangerous and potentially harmful. Im a true conservative so I just want them to have their rights but i will never support it or accept it as anything less than a complete sexual perversion.

You comand respect, you don't demand it.
You demand rights. These "freaks" are human beings. It's not my lifestyle cocksucker. Go pray to your imaginary friend. You have the right to do so. Nobody stops you.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Some regret it later. It's a very serious change. It doesn't mean the condition is environmental. It means they didn't fully fit either box.
Except most that detransition now say they do fit one box and were pressured into transition.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You demand rights. These "freaks" are human beings. It's not my lifestyle cocksucker.
so are people that refused to get the vaccine
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
They're dominating female sports, they're raping women in prison, and they're walking around with their dick swinging in the locker room, and leering at females changing.
1) So set hormone limits in sports.
2) So make prison safer.
3) There is a difference between reasonable use of locker room and indecent exposure. Witnesses can complain and file charges.
4) Same as above.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Except most that detransition now say they do fit one box and were pressured into transition.




so are people that refused to get the vaccine
Pressured by whom? Again, you can't be talked out of your gender. It's pretty hard to do that. There may be some who regret it but the majority do not. Look into the data.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Pressured by whom? Again, you can't be talked out of your gender. It's pretty hard to do that.
so you haven't listened to anyone that has detransitioned then. You should check that out.

People have said they were pressured/encouraged by teachers and counsellors/medical proffesionals associated with trans support groups. One of the biggest things is that as soon as a kid says they have that they feel like the opposite sex they have been hit with "well if you feel that way it just means you are trans" and it continues from there.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
LOL. We have multiple people ITT who unironically want these people to basically be removed from society.
I've noticed JLC is spending most of his time answering/talking-with them, but my queries have gone unanswered... ;(
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
so you haven't listened to anyone that has detransitioned then. You should check that out.

People have said they were pressured/encouraged by teachers and counsellors/medical proffesionals associated with trans support groups. One of the biggest things is that as soon as a kid says they have that they feel like the opposite sex they have been hit with "well if you feel that way it just means you are trans" and it continues from there.
I have. But again, the whole body of research suggests it is helpful. There are going to be some number of people who regret it. And they would most likely blame those around them for the decision. It really can't be that simple. I'm pretty sure it starts with "you MIGHT be trans".

I'll also add there is no perfect policy. You choose the least bad one. Some number of people are going to undergo reassignment and regret it. But do the benefits outweigh the costs for more people? If the answer is yes, you leave it. I'll also add that most trans afaik from the data do not actually undergo surgery. That's understandably a pretty extreme thing.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
I've noticed JLC is spending most of his time answering/talking-with them, but my queries have gone unanswered... ;(
I've answered your queries.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You demand rights. These "freaks" are human beings. It's not my lifestyle cocksucker. Go pray to your imaginary friend. You have the right to do so. Nobody stops you.
Lol...it's cute to see a grown man succumb to his feelings and resort to childish name-calling...im actually a Nhilist so I don't reckon I believe in any imaginary friends...also, you're precisely the reason I don't associate with other non believers because they feel the need to insult someone's faith in order to win an internet argument. That's some good old fashion psuedo intellectualism for you lol.

I don't care what they believe in...I just want them to have that right. I'm just saying, if you want to erase women from society or prey on children, you shouldn't have the power to label folks bigots because they don't want to associate with that disgusting behavior. Your behavior is a perfect example...I give my opinion and the first thing you do is call me a cocksucker or assume I'm religious and attempt to insult my god...it's just sad..sad and embarrassing
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
I have. But again, the whole body of research suggests it is helpful. There are going to be some number of people who regret it. And they would most likely blame those around them for the decision. It really can't be that simple. I'm pretty sure it starts with "you MIGHT be trans".

I'll also add there is no perfect policy. You choose the least bad one. Some number of people are going to undergo reassignment and regret it. But do the benefits outweigh the costs for more people? If the answer is yes, you leave it. I'll also add that most trans afaik from the data do not actually undergo surgery. That's understandably a pretty extreme thing.
uh no - that's been the beauty of it - since trans is a spectrum it is not might be trans, to some advocates if you have ever thought about being the opposite sex then you are trans. And this is exactly what people who have detransitioned have said.

It is actually - the perfect policy is that you do not allow children to make permanent bodily changes via hormones and physical restraint devices and surgeries. Just like we say kids under 18 are not fully developed enough to make a decision on a tattoo or mature enough to handle alcohol. Pretty simple actually.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
You demand rights. These "freaks" are human beings. It's not my lifestyle cocksucker. Go pray to your imaginary friend. You have the right to do so. Nobody stops you.
so here you are talking about all the negative talk about gays that can impact people and then using the term cocksucker

who's the closest thing to a nazi in these parts?

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Originally Posted By Irezumi
Lol...it's cute to see a grown man succumb to his feelings and resort to childish name-calling...im actually a Nhilist so I don't reckon I believe in any imaginary friends...also, you're precisely the reason I don't associate with other non believers because they feel the need to insult someone's faith in order to win an internet argument. That's some good old fashion psuedo intellectualism for you lol.

I don't care what they believe in...I just want them to have that right. I'm just saying, if you want to erase women from society or prey on children, you shouldn't have the power to label folks bigots because they don't want to associate with that disgusting behavior. Your behavior is a perfect example...I give my opinion and the first thing you do is call me a cocksucker or assume I'm religious and attempt to insult my god...it's just sad..sad and embarrassing
You insulted me first by insinuating I was LGBT. Now you play victim. Classic fascist. Start chit, get hit. Didn't read past the first sentence.

You mentioned "my " lifestyle. If I have misinterpreted your post and you were speaking more broadly, I retract my insult. If you weren't, then smd.
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