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Soldier infiltrates enemy trench by himself, kills 3 and takes 2 captives.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
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Soldier infiltrates enemy trench by himself, kills 3 and takes 2 captives.
Free content and all that, but they should stop with the stupid ****ing music.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
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Tatyana Fesenko was killed in battle against the Russian Army on March 5th near Bakhmut.

A shell hit her trench, wounded her severely.

Her husband, also serving in her unit, carried her 2.5 km to the evacuation point, but she later died from her wounds.

She was 30 years old



Well done retard crew

Fuking scumbags
Remember this post next time you cheer on "your side"....
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
Are you diagnosed with something? Serious.

This has been going on for a year. I'm quite concerned for you.
Me? No.

You? Probably. Not a single inkling of "where is he coming from" coming from you because you only care about what you hope is happening.

You probably think I'm pro-Russian too, don't you?
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
Just saw the drone footage. Disgusting.

I know that narcissistic Russian retards think that Black Sea and the entire planet belong only to them, but the reality is far different from the orc loony fantasies. Those are international waters and this is an act of war.

US now has every right to retaliate and shoot down any Russian sh*t that flies out of their own territory.

Let's see how Putin coksuckers react to it. Expect nothing but anti-American crap from the so called "MAGA patriots"...
Act of war?
Flying over and providing countless ISR targeting for Ukraine isn't? Supplying countless weapons to an active war zone isn't?

We are truly living in bizarre times. Blood thirsty Republicans and democrats all want war.

Nothing is more patriotic than siding with peace and preventing the loss of life of your countrymen. The moment you realize we're projecting our will on everyone else by force, the better. There are no good guys in this.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
Remember this post next time you cheer on "your side"....
If everyone ITT could do that, there would hardly be any arguments.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
Remember this post next time you cheer on "your side"....
I will indeed think of all the innocent people you chicken hawks have sacrificied
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
Just saw the drone footage. Disgusting.

I know that narcissistic Russian retards think that Black Sea and the entire planet belong only to them, but the reality is far different from the orc loony fantasies. Those are international waters and this is an act of war.

US now has every right to retaliate and shoot down any Russian sh*t that flies out of their own territory.

Let's see how Putin coksuckers react to it. Expect nothing but anti-American crap from the so called "MAGA patriots"...
Look how dumb this mfer is lol. Christ Almighty, what a dumb zombie.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
If everyone ITT could do that, there would hardly be any arguments.
The only argument anyone should ever make is for the war to end and an equitable and just scenario for all parties involved. Ukraine getting a total victory would not be justice for Donetsk, Crimea, and Lugansk. Russia getting a total victory would not be justice for most of Ukraine. There is a line that must be drawn to settle this. But people want to fight over that line. Until enough die and they lose their will to fight and realize where the line ought to be, this will sadly keep going.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
If everyone ITT could do that, there would hardly be any arguments.
Too many idiots think this is like "yay my sportsball team".
Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I will indeed think of all the innocent people you chicken hawks have sacrificied
Show me where I've been cheering on this war. Unlike you....

Every time you cheer on some russian victory (and it's a lot) it's on a podium on top of the dead bodies of people like this young lass. Same with all the Ukraine cheerleaders. Profoundly fcking gross.
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
Too many idiots think this is like "yay my sportsball team".



Show me where I've been cheering on this war. Unlike you....

Every time you cheer on some russian victory (and it's a lot) it's on a podium on top of the dead bodies of people like this young lass. Same with all the Ukraine cheerleaders. Profoundly fcking gross.
I mean, one can agree with the Russians in spirit and not support the death. I agree with the idea of Fuk Banderites and that the people of Donbass deserve to retain their historical, cultural, and linguistic traditions as Russians. It doesn't mean I support the killing. A swift victory would have been a great thing for Russia and Ukraine. If Ukraine had just given up that territory, the war could have ended with very little bloodshed.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
Looks like Ukraine might actually get some jets...MiG-29's from Poland. Are Russian jets now good again? Ghost of Kiev is gonna liberate Bakhmut in a day or two.
Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
No, they are still old, with upgrades. Mig29s have a lot of potential, but are difficult to fly well. They can only carry a handful of dumb bombs and were designed more for Air to Air.
Fitted to carry a couple of 2000 lbs JDAMs, it will be a bad time for a lot of mobics. You can drop them from 28 km away and they'll hit with GPS guided accuracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...t=share_button

Also lol at claiming the ruskies are able to keep this as an distant artillery war in their favor. M8s, there's literally dozens of videos every day, where some poor ruskie gets obliterated by a drone dropped grenade delivered with a hardware store drone. These have a reach of max. 2 km and that's very generous.
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So vatniks sperging out and spamming again, that surely means Bakhmut has finally fallen....oh wait
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Me? No.

You? Probably. Not a single inkling of "where is he coming from" coming from you because you only care about what you hope is happening.

You probably think I'm pro-Russian too, don't you?
I actually don't think you are pro-Russian. You just radiate some deep rooted hatred for your own government, maybe because of your past experiences? And because US is supporting Ukraine, you dislike Ukraine as well.

I've never claimed or "hoped" Ukraine has minimal losses. Both sides have colossal numbers of casualties and men KIA, especially when considering the length of this conflict. Yes, both sides. You, who has blamed every pro Ukraine poster here, seeing this conflict as a team sport, is the one who spews out the most ridiculous numbers and is fixated with them. These 10:1 KIA fantasies are proving my point from your part.

As you said before, time will tell all. And even then, when years have passed, the numbers will be suspect. From both sides.

Having a US military background does not make you an expert on Russian military tactics and how good they are on the battlefield. A hint - they are probably not as professional and efficient as you think they are.
Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
I mean, one can agree with the Russians in spirit and not support the death. I agree with the idea of Fuk Banderites and that the people of Donbass deserve to retain their historical, cultural, and linguistic traditions as Russians. It doesn't mean I support the killing. A swift victory would have been a great thing for Russia and Ukraine. If Ukraine had just given up that territory, the war could have ended with very little bloodshed.
A swift victory however you may define it, would of been followed by years and maybe decades of insurgency warfare from Ukraines part. Just like with Chechnya. And just like with Chechnya and Grozny, they would of had to bomb the **** out of the capital to defeat the spirit of Ukrainians. But Ukraine is not some lil muslim country in the mountains (who no one gives a **** about), so those classic Russian tactics of killing tens of thousands of civilians to demoralize the opposition was out of the picture from the start.
Defeat the defeatist.
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Lmao, as everything in ruskie military tech, the T-90 is a fraud too

https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...tion-6086.html
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
I actually don't think you are pro-Russian. You just radiate some deep rooted hatred for your own government, maybe because of your past experiences? And because US is supporting Ukraine, you dislike Ukraine as well.

I've never claimed or "hoped" Ukraine has minimal losses. Both sides have colossal numbers of casualties and men KIA, especially when considering the length of this conflict. Yes, both sides. You, who has blamed every pro Ukraine poster here, seeing this conflict as a team sport, is the one who spews out the most ridiculous numbers and is fixated with them. These 10:1 KIA fantasies are proving my point from your part.

As you said before, time will tell all. And even then, when years have passed, the numbers will be suspect. From both sides.

Having a US military background does not make you an expert on Russian military tactics and how good they are on the battlefield. A hint - they are probably not as professional and efficient as you think they are.


A swift victory however you may define it, would of been followed by years and maybe decades of insurgency warfare from Ukraines part. Just like with Chechnya. And just like with Chechnya and Grozny, they would of had to bomb the **** out of the capital to defeat the spirit of Ukrainians. But Ukraine is not some lil muslim country in the mountains (who no one gives a **** about), so those classic Russian tactics of killing tens of thousands of civilians to demoralize the opposition was out of the picture from the start.
Only if Russia sought to hold all of Ukraine. If it was just the Donbass to enforce something analogous to Minsk 2, there would be no insurgency. It is the will of much of Donbass and Crimea to be separate from Ukraine. Grozny today is much better off than it was. Chechnya was a criminal cesspit. Putin is slowly cleaning it up and developing their economy and giving them education.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩
Only if Russia sought to hold all of Ukraine. If it was just the Donbass to enforce something analogous to Minsk 2, there would be no insurgency. It is the will of much of Donbass and Crimea to be separate from Ukraine. Grozny today is much better off than it was. Chechnya was a criminal cesspit. Putin is slowly cleaning it up and developing their economy and giving them education.
If I remember correctly Putin stated in his initial plan, that Russia was looking to "demilitarize and denazify Ukraine". This implies the country in whole, not parts of Ukraine.

Grozny mightlookbetter, if you concentrate only on the façade. It only took about 50 - 80 000 civilians being killed and 100 000s of people losing their homes to achieve this glorious look. Chechens never forget.
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
Fitted to carry a couple of 2000 lbs JDAMs, it will be a bad time for a lot of mobics. You can drop them from 28 km away and they'll hit with GPS guided accuracy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...t=share_button

Also lol at claiming the ruskies are able to keep this as an distant artillery war in their favor. M8s, there's literally dozens of videos every day, where some poor ruskie gets obliterated by a drone dropped grenade delivered with a hardware store drone. These have a reach of max. 2 km and that's very generous.
Russia has hundreds of mig29s...
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
If I remember correctly Putin stated in his initial plan, that Russia was looking to "demilitarize and denazify Ukraine". This implies the country in whole, not parts of Ukraine.

Grozny mightlookbetter, if you concentrate only on the façade. It only took about 50 - 80 000 civilians being killed and 100 000s of people losing their homes to achieve this glorious look. Chechens never forget.
He would have accepted Minsk 2's implementation or something resembling it. It's because Ukraine repeatedly refused to implement the deal that he concluded it needed to be demilitarized.
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
Russia has hundreds of mig29s...
And how many JDAMs?
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Originally Posted By MotorcycleBrah⏩
And how many JDAMs?
no clue but pretty sure russia has their own bombs? no?

whatever happened to Himars btw? srs question... been a long time since I've seen any of that
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
If I remember correctly Putin stated in his initial plan, that Russia was looking to "demilitarize and denazify Ukraine". This implies the country in whole, not parts of Ukraine.

Grozny mightlookbetter, if you concentrate only on the façade. It only took about 50 - 80 000 civilians being killed and 100 000s of people losing their homes to achieve this glorious look. Chechens never forget.






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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
no clue but pretty sure russia has their own bombs? no?

whatever happened to Himars btw? srs question... been a long time since I've seen any of that
They mostly only have their unguided bombs and rockets (apart from cruise missles ofc). So only speaking close air support. I've seen IR guided bombs only in one occasion fired from a kh-52.
Otherwise you see the kh-52 and su-25 mostly doing these pitch up rocket strikes to gain more range of those unguided bombing runs.

Lmao, HIMARS is striking bases in Melitopol, Mariupol and Crimea on the regular. Haven't you paid attention to last weeks?

Slovakia just announced it will give 13 more MiG-29 to Ukraine

https://en.royanews.tv/news/40536/2023-03-17
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state of Ukranian anti air systems

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Hey vatcucks what happened to Kadyrov?

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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Hey vatcucks what happened to Kadyrov?

https://www.ft.com/content/d6ce74de-...b-a45d46919fe7
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Originally Posted By Weightaholic⏩
Too many idiots think this is like "yay my sportsball team".



Show me where I've been cheering on this war. Unlike you....

Every time you cheer on some russian victory (and it's a lot) it's on a podium on top of the dead bodies of people like this young lass. Same with all the Ukraine cheerleaders. Profoundly fcking gross.
LOL

I was told I must be a russian agent because I said just giving weapons wouldnt change the outcome, just drag this out killing more Ukrainians and thats exactly what happened

You chicken hawks keep telling me ukrainian lives are worth being sacrificed to spite russia.iam not the one claiming their deaths are an acceptable means to an end

We could have had russia entirely out of ukraine without all this death a year ago.YOUpieces of shyt decided that would be unacceptable, not me
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze⏩






Damn, some tourism videos, now you've convinced me - "Russia actually the good guy".

Step outside of Grozny, Moscow or Sankt Peterburg to see what's what. Most Russians barely get by, while the country is pouring in billions trying to bully their slavic stepbrother Ukraine. Keep drinking that Kreml Kool-aid, bratan.
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
I actually don't think you are pro-Russian. You just radiate some deep rooted hatred for your own government, maybe because of your past experiences? And because US is supporting Ukraine, you dislike Ukraine as well.

I've never claimed or "hoped" Ukraine has minimal losses. Both sides have colossal numbers of casualties and men KIA, especially when considering the length of this conflict. Yes, both sides. You, who has blamed every pro Ukraine poster here, seeing this conflict as a team sport, is the one who spews out the most ridiculous numbers and is fixated with them. These 10:1 KIA fantasies are proving my point from your part.

As you said before, time will tell all. And even then, when years have passed, the numbers will be suspect. From both sides.

Having a US military background does not make you an expert on Russian military tactics and how good they are on the battlefield. A hint - they are probably not as professional and efficient as you think they are.


A swift victory however you may define it, would of been followed by years and maybe decades of insurgency warfare from Ukraines part. Just like with Chechnya. And just like with Chechnya and Grozny, they would of had to bomb the **** out of the capital to defeat the spirit of Ukrainians. But Ukraine is not some lil muslim country in the mountains (who no one gives a **** about), so those classic Russian tactics of killing tens of thousands of civilians to demoralize the opposition was out of the picture from the start.
Your thought pattern is all over the place and disorganized.

I'm not sure what it has to do with the current war strategy. I do however understand that you see a lot of warfare and assume a lot as opposed to understanding the battlefield.

My opinion on "how good they are" is irrelevant though I've offered opinions contrary to your accusation. Maybe you are conflating (as I said you're all over the place) my statements on a thrown together army and its several iterations versus a professional military which means they are industrialized and indoctrinated with a consistent federal governance?

I can see how you'd take it personally though it's the furthest thing from a compliment.

Tens of millions of artillery rounds advance on territory before infantry cleans it up. Russia is risk adverse when it comes to personnel loss which is why they retreat in the face of overwhelming force or refuse to advance. It is not a hard concept, again doctrine, supply, and available materiel.

So yes the casualties are extremely lopsided as I have said they would be from the begining of the conflict. It is not a fair fight and should have been discouraged
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
Damn, some tourism videos, now you've convinced me - "Russia actually the good guy".

Step outside of Grozny, Moscow or Sankt Peterburg to see what's what. Most Russians barely get by, while the country is pouring in billions trying to bully their slavic stepbrother Ukraine. Keep drinking that Kreml Kool-aid, bratan.
Putin literally ran Russia better than Ukraine ran Ukraine. You can look at pensions and crime to see that.
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