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Originally Posted By Ikarsuz1337⏩
nah i believe in god. i just don't label myself as anything, we're all god, god is the universe, we are the universeso you are part of the group of antitheists
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Originally Posted By DavidEaslea⏩
Then why do Christians live the exact opposite of what he stood for?There isn't a single thing he said that was wrong. That's how you know Christianity is the only true religion.
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Originally Posted By 7empest⏩
So if you're God the one who created the heavens, the earth. humans, and all the beasts within it?nah i believe in god. i just don't label myself as anything, we're all god, god is the universe, we are the universe
If you're God the Almighty, why don't you build another planet Earth?
Why simply misc?
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You're talking as if you know for certain that every Christian is non-practisingThen why do Christians live the exact opposite of what he stood for?
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Originally Posted By TheTwilightZone⏩
Jesus IS real.Jesus never existed. He's made up.
You see, many years ago, before Christianity, there were many small cults in competition with one another for followers in the Middle East. None of them had any more legitimacy than one another. And there was a problem, a random dude could say, "God revealed X to me personally. Follow my cult!" and that was just as valid as anything the other cults were teaching. That's basically what Joseph Smith did. lol
So there were all these small cults in competition, and they had the problem that none of them had any more legitimacy than one another. How did they solve it?
They invented Jesus. After that, a cult could say, "We have legitimacy because we follow the teachings of someone who was sent by God!"
It worked. Christianity became a widely popular religion. That's also why there's no mention of Jesus until 100 years after his supposed death. It's because the character is fictional.
You see, many years ago, before Christianity, there were many small cults in competition with one another for followers in the Middle East. None of them had any more legitimacy than one another. And there was a problem, a random dude could say, "God revealed X to me personally. Follow my cult!" and that was just as valid as anything the other cults were teaching. That's basically what Joseph Smith did. lol
So there were all these small cults in competition, and they had the problem that none of them had any more legitimacy than one another. How did they solve it?
They invented Jesus. After that, a cult could say, "We have legitimacy because we follow the teachings of someone who was sent by God!"
It worked. Christianity became a widely popular religion. That's also why there's no mention of Jesus until 100 years after his supposed death. It's because the character is fictional.
I even had a satanist guy in the occult tell me that Jesus is real - they just choose to not obey God.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
proof?Jesus IS real.
I even had a satanist guy in the occult tell me that Jesus is real - they just choose to not obey God.
I even had a satanist guy in the occult tell me that Jesus is real - they just choose to not obey God.
03-18-2023, 06:07 AM
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Don't know what happened to that WiseOldApe guy but he's kinda based all of a sudden, srs
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He lashed put in anger at the tax collectors in the temple.
Not perfect.
Not perfect.
03-18-2023, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted By zarathu5tra⏩
Why, because he's learning the religion pill grift? Literally the oldest one in the book? Besides selling pussy?Don't know what happened to that WiseOldApe guy but he's kinda based all of a sudden, srs
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Since Jesus speaks to so many of you, please ask him why his god thinks childhood leukemia is ok.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian⏩
Weird, I didn't know there was a book.of Paul, and one where Jesus spoke in it.In Paul, he said that you should not have sex, but if you must you should get married.
So, Jesus was part of a Death Cult that didn't want people to have sex.
The cult The Shakers followed this idea to the letter, did not have children, and all died out as a group.
So, Jesus was part of a Death Cult that didn't want people to have sex.
The cult The Shakers followed this idea to the letter, did not have children, and all died out as a group.
I generally used to cite the gospels where Jesus actually speaks to reference what he said...but exciting news that there is another book I haven't heard of where Jesus speaks!
03-18-2023, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
truthThe Greatest Man in History had no servants, yet they called Him Master.
Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher.
Had no medicine, yet they called Him Healer.
He had no army, yet kings feared Him.
He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world.
He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him.
He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today.
Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher.
Had no medicine, yet they called Him Healer.
He had no army, yet kings feared Him.
He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world.
He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him.
He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today.
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Jesus was without sin, so he was perfect in that regard, which allowed him to perform the atonement. The atonement is his greatest gift allowing for us sinners to repent and become clean. I’m not sure why most people celebrate his death when we should really be celebrating his life.
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there's definitely something special about the gospels that has never been replicated.
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Originally Posted By akferd⏩
Jesus had children, he wasn’t a virgin. He was also baptized, which wasn’t really needed since he never sinned. Everything he did was for us, to provide an example for how we should live our lives to be able to return to live with our Heavenly Father.He is the most famous person in all of human history, despite being a virgin. So why all the hate for incels? If you hate incels then you hate Jesus.
Jesus loves you, incels.
Jesus loves you, incels.
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03-18-2023, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By dingler⏩
did you see that iin da vinci code?Jesus had children, he wasn’t a virgin. He was also baptized, which wasn’t really needed since he never sinned. Everything he did was for us, to provide an example for how we should live our lives to be able to return to live with our Heavenly Father.
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Jesus isn't real tho.
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What about that dying thing?
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
What if he is and you're wrong?Jesus isn't real tho.
Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Jesus died on the cross for our sins - mine and yours.What about that dying thing?
Unless you can refer me to the New Testament where it says otherwise?
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Originally Posted By DavidEaslea⏩
Agreed with the thread title but Christianity does not follow exclusively what Jesus said. It follows what people who claimed to have “experienced Jesus” said. It was the true religion at one point but it got too distorted by the Christian authority. We are witnessing an example of the corruption right now with the way the church and the pope are handling the issue of lgbt to appease the masses.There isn't a single thing he said that was wrong. That's how you know Christianity is the only true religion.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Didn't sound like he was willing to do it...Matthew 27:46, when he was crying out on the cross asking why he was forsaken - who was he crying out to (himself?)What if he is and you're wrong?
Jesus died on the cross for our sins - mine and yours.
Unless you can refer me to the New Testament where it says otherwise?
Jesus died on the cross for our sins - mine and yours.
Unless you can refer me to the New Testament where it says otherwise?
Matthew 26:36 onwards, he prayed in the garden of gethsemane and asked this cup (i.e. death) to be removed from him. Who does God pray to (himself?).
And it says that God heard his prayer (Hebrews 5:7)...but what does "heard" mean because God hears all our prayers - it means he accepted this prayer.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
That's nothing. Read sig.Thuggin
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.” –Matthew 10:34
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.” –Matthew 10:34
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
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"Christianity" was created by Roman emperors and Roman catholic popes for control and power over the masses.
It's not a religion from God, neither one that God accepts.
The new testament is filled with contradictions, it's also impossible to follow a coherent belief unless you start following made up views that aren't in scripture (i.e. Trinity, Jesus being God which there is no clear verse saying this, and so on so forth).
What are the teachings of Jesus ? Do you have any original writings from his time, in the language he spoke ? The answer is no.
Even if you read the corrupted bible today and then cross-reference to the practices of the vast majority of christian behavior. Sunday worship, christmas, easter, wooden crosses and statues idolatry, etc. it's all pagan from start to end.
The core message is always believe in one God dont worship idols - 1st commandment.
The truth is, you need to study Islam. The evidences for the validity and the truthfulness of Islam are sufficient to convince every fair-minded, sane person looking for the truth with impartiality and sincerity. It's the ONLY true religion that God accepts, and the only religion that has been preserved by God almighty for over 1400 years. The religion of all prophets, including Jesus.
It's not a religion from God, neither one that God accepts.
The new testament is filled with contradictions, it's also impossible to follow a coherent belief unless you start following made up views that aren't in scripture (i.e. Trinity, Jesus being God which there is no clear verse saying this, and so on so forth).
What are the teachings of Jesus ? Do you have any original writings from his time, in the language he spoke ? The answer is no.
Even if you read the corrupted bible today and then cross-reference to the practices of the vast majority of christian behavior. Sunday worship, christmas, easter, wooden crosses and statues idolatry, etc. it's all pagan from start to end.
The core message is always believe in one God dont worship idols - 1st commandment.
The truth is, you need to study Islam. The evidences for the validity and the truthfulness of Islam are sufficient to convince every fair-minded, sane person looking for the truth with impartiality and sincerity. It's the ONLY true religion that God accepts, and the only religion that has been preserved by God almighty for over 1400 years. The religion of all prophets, including Jesus.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
No. LDS doctrine is a little more in depth. We believe marriage and families are the key to happiness. We also believe it's essentially to return to live with our heavenly father. Christ had to get married and have a family to be able to return to live with God and become as he is. However, not all families exist or only exist in this life. There will be families in the next life, we believe families can be together forever.did you see that iin da vinci code?
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Originally Posted By dingler⏩
What denomination is this?No. LDS doctrine is a little more in depth. We believe marriage and families are the key to happiness. We also believe it's essentially to return to live with our heavenly father. Christ had to get married and have a family to be able to return to live with God and become as he is. However, not all families exist or only exist in this life. There will be families in the next life, we believe families can be together forever.
Nevermind. It's the latter day satans
Isaiah 45:22-23. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
My understanding is that God is a non-physical entity - in the bible it says that God is a Spirit.Didn't sound like he was willing to do it...Matthew 27:46, when he was crying out on the cross asking why he was forsaken - who was he crying out to (himself?)
Matthew 26:36 onwards, he prayed in the garden of gethsemane and asked this cup (i.e. death) to be removed from him. Who does God pray to (himself?).
And it says that God heard his prayer (Hebrews 5:7)...but what does "heard" mean because God hears all our prayers - it means he accepted this prayer.
Matthew 26:36 onwards, he prayed in the garden of gethsemane and asked this cup (i.e. death) to be removed from him. Who does God pray to (himself?).
And it says that God heard his prayer (Hebrews 5:7)...but what does "heard" mean because God hears all our prayers - it means he accepted this prayer.
So God came to Earth through His son, Jesus Christ and established The Holy Spirit on Earth - Jesus was born of an immaculate conception and was without Sin.
He is referred to as 'God's Lamb' - I never knew what this meant until I experienced and left the occult - lambs and goats are sacrificial animals.
Lambs are pure and innocent, and goats are greedy and selfish, hence why freemasonry worships the baphomet (half man/women-half goat).
Satan quite litirally looks like a goat - like a satyr in 'greek mythology'.
So God incarnated on Earth into a boy, through a women who herself was a pure and sinless person and sacrificed Himself or His Own Son (Jesus says that he and the father are one), as a blood sacrifice to atone for OUR sins - hence why John the Baptist refers the Jesus as 'The Lamb of God'.
This might not make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to the occultists - hence why satanists sacrifice animals, like goats.
Watch this guy and listen to what he says about his own experience with black magic and Jesus Christ.
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Originally Posted By True1Message⏩
If I had an alt, it'd be this guy"Christianity" was created by Roman emperors and Roman catholic popes for control and power over the masses.
It's not a religion from God, neither one that God accepts.
The new testament is filled with contradictions, it's also impossible to follow a coherent belief unless you start following made up views that aren't in scripture (i.e. Trinity, Jesus being God which there is no clear verse saying this, and so on so forth).
What are the teachings of Jesus ? Do you have any original writings from his time, in the language he spoke ? The answer is no.
Even if you read the corrupted bible today and then cross-reference to the practices of the vast majority of christian behavior. Sunday worship, christmas, easter, wooden crosses and statues idolatry, etc. it's all pagan from start to end.
The core message is always believe in one God dont worship idols - 1st commandment.
The truth is, you need to study Islam. The evidences for the validity and the truthfulness of Islam are sufficient to convince every fair-minded, sane person looking for the truth with impartiality and sincerity. It's the ONLY true religion that God accepts, and the only religion that has been preserved by God almighty for over 1400 years. The religion of all prophets, including Jesus.
It's not a religion from God, neither one that God accepts.
The new testament is filled with contradictions, it's also impossible to follow a coherent belief unless you start following made up views that aren't in scripture (i.e. Trinity, Jesus being God which there is no clear verse saying this, and so on so forth).
What are the teachings of Jesus ? Do you have any original writings from his time, in the language he spoke ? The answer is no.
Even if you read the corrupted bible today and then cross-reference to the practices of the vast majority of christian behavior. Sunday worship, christmas, easter, wooden crosses and statues idolatry, etc. it's all pagan from start to end.
The core message is always believe in one God dont worship idols - 1st commandment.
The truth is, you need to study Islam. The evidences for the validity and the truthfulness of Islam are sufficient to convince every fair-minded, sane person looking for the truth with impartiality and sincerity. It's the ONLY true religion that God accepts, and the only religion that has been preserved by God almighty for over 1400 years. The religion of all prophets, including Jesus.
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Are his followers also one with them?My understanding is that God is a non-physical entity - in the bible it says that God is a Spirit.
So God came to Earth through His son, Jesus Christ and established The Holy Spirit on Earth - Jesus was born of an immaculate conception and was without Sin.
He is referred to as 'God's Lamb' - I never knew what this meant until I experienced and left the occult - lambs and goats are sacrificial animals.
Lambs are pure and innocent, and goats are greedy and selfish, hence why freemasonry worships the baphomet (half man/women-half goat).
Satan quite litirally looks like a goat - like a satyr in 'greek mythology'.
So God incarnated on Earth into a boy, through a women who herself was a pure and sinless person and sacrificed Himself or His Own Son (Jesus says that he and the father are one), as a blood sacrifice to atone for OUR sins - hence why John the Baptist refers the Jesus as 'The Lamb of God'.
This might not make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to the occultists - hence why satanists sacrifice animals, like goats.
Watch this guy and listen to what he says about his own experience with black magic and Jesus Christ.
So God came to Earth through His son, Jesus Christ and established The Holy Spirit on Earth - Jesus was born of an immaculate conception and was without Sin.
He is referred to as 'God's Lamb' - I never knew what this meant until I experienced and left the occult - lambs and goats are sacrificial animals.
Lambs are pure and innocent, and goats are greedy and selfish, hence why freemasonry worships the baphomet (half man/women-half goat).
Satan quite litirally looks like a goat - like a satyr in 'greek mythology'.
So God incarnated on Earth into a boy, through a women who herself was a pure and sinless person and sacrificed Himself or His Own Son (Jesus says that he and the father are one), as a blood sacrifice to atone for OUR sins - hence why John the Baptist refers the Jesus as 'The Lamb of God'.
This might not make sense to you, but it makes perfect sense to the occultists - hence why satanists sacrifice animals, like goats.
Watch this guy and listen to what he says about his own experience with black magic and Jesus Christ.
John 17:20-21
“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
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Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
So was the quran written by God or slowly revealed over time to man?If I had an alt, it'd be this guy
Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Not sure what your asking, but The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one - I'm not that good at understanding Christianity just yet, but my understanding so far is that 'The Holy Spirit' is present in Christians who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.If I had an alt, it'd be this guy
Are his followers also one with them?
John 17:20-21
“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Are his followers also one with them?
John 17:20-21
“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
The Holy Spirit is a real and tangible 'thing' that can be felt and experienced in our day to day life, since it allows us to have discernment and not be swayed by ours soul's desires.
The Holy Spirit is what gives regular humans the ability to discern, cast out demons, and even perform miracles - it's the Holy Spirit that does the work.
Jesus Himself was born of a virgin (Mary) and himself was sinless, because Jesus IS God in the flesh - which is what made him 'The Lamb of God' to be sacrificed at the cross for OUR Sins... it's a blood sacrifice performed by God with His own and only son.
So when you ask 'Are His followers with them' - what are you asking exactly?
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03-18-2023, 05:39 PM
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The biggest problem with Christianity is that so many groups have twisted the words of their Bible, or cherry-picked phrases out of context to commit atrocities. Even today, so many claim to be Christian, but scoff at helping a fellow man. They would rather idolize the rich, even though their Bible basically despised the rich.
If every religion actually followed the true path of virtue, and love that they all claim to be the world would actually be pretty great. Unfortunately they don’t, and many instead use their religion to be hateful and harm others.
If every religion actually followed the true path of virtue, and love that they all claim to be the world would actually be pretty great. Unfortunately they don’t, and many instead use their religion to be hateful and harm others.
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