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Originally Posted By FinBra
Yes I'm sure there were 17000 frivolous death reports...do you hear yourself my guy? You're lost, your ego so damaged you can't admit obvious and easily observable facts.

May as well rope, srs.
Do you realize there is a normal death rate? And yes, considering how politicized this chit is, there are a lot of bs reports from idiot antivaxxers. The CDC and other medical professionals have been thoroughly reviewing all VAERS reports. To date, after over a billion doses administered, there have been ZERO deaths linked to the mRNA vaccines.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Lold at making that statement with such certainty like you know it to be. Fact is, we have no idea what these injections do longterm and there is mounting evidence that heart issues are a real concern. See data I posted about the increase over the past few years.
There have been studies on this dipchit. Vaccine induced myocarditis and other types of myocarditis are clinically distinguishable. Get a clue or fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
There have been studies on this dipchit. Vaccine induced myocarditis and other types of myocarditis are clinically distinguishable. Get a clue or fist yourself.
And there are lots of other issues besides just myocarditis dipsh!t, not to mention you are trusting the same entities that we know have consistently and repeatedly been PROVEN to lie for profits. Such a good little pharmaceutical foot soldier you, and free of charge at that!
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
All of that plays a role, but none of those factors are unique to those three years. Lots of people(particularly younger people go years and years without a medical checkup). Vaping has been going on for 10+ years now. Sedentary lifestyles have been increasing for over 50 years. American diets have been terrible for a long time. So again, all of that plays a role in overall health but wouldn’t explain such a large leap in such a short amount of time. Something else is needed to account for the increase.
So since you are one of the few reasonable guys around here, is it just 1 variable?
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
There have been studies on this dipchit. Vaccine induced myocarditis and other types of myocarditis are clinically distinguishable. Get a clue or fist yourself.
JFLOL jimmies rustled. "Follow the science" he said...

Science involves asking questions, not demanding our submission to CNN's scientists. How'd that "get vaccinated to stop the spread" science work out for you Vaxcels?
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
There have been studies on this dipchit. Vaccine induced myocarditis and other types of myocarditis are clinically distinguishable. Get a clue or fist yourself.
youre arguing with people in their mid 30s who haven't taken science since grade 10 applied when they were 15
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
Lmao oldcel jabcel on suicide watch. You're lucky you play golf instead of a real sport.
post 1679230033 03-19-2023, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By PrehistoricUFO
All that brain, and yet he was still too stupid to realize he was being used as a test subject by the medical mafia.

Periodic schwarz your way out of that one, boyo.
Lefties can be very academically “smart” but rarely have the common sense necessary to be effective in sorting through real world issues and threats
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
I thought you already summarized those studies in your post...



Again, how did a vaccine first put into widespread use in 2021 cause heart attacks years earlier?
It doesnt prove **** but also is a point of concern if someone says that it has bren proven to oblivion snd beyond that vax is fully safe.

As for your second statement, I do not believe the excess death shtick at all. Why are you asking me this? My post with the study has nothing to do with deaths but myo risk from vaccine and infection.

Do you think that study is useless?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
get it through your thick heads, contracting covid when unvaccinated is worse for your heart than the jab.

idiots.
Not even close. Try again dummy
post 1679230753 03-19-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
Do you realize there is a normal death rate? And yes, considering how politicized this chit is, there are a lot of bs reports from idiot antivaxxers. The CDC and other medical professionals have been thoroughly reviewing all VAERS reports. To date, after over a billion doses administered, there have been ZERO deaths linked to the mRNA vaccines.
lol i personally knew 2 people officially killed by MRNA vaccines, not just a river in Egypt lol. The worldwide excess deaths are significant in most countries.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So since you are one of the few reasonable guys around here, is it just 1 variable?
There are two new variables; the virus and the injection and they both play a role. But as I pointed out the group that had the largest increase was the younger groups that are less likely to have bad bouts of Covid and more likely to have adverse events following the injection. Plus if a large majority of it was due to Covid then you would think that the numbers would drop as the virus weakened into its current form of basically being a cold. But that isn’t the case. And in fact it increased even more as the virus weakened. Of course, during that time we were injecting billions of people with a treatment in a form that we’ve never been able to safely and effectively develop. And it was delivered by companies that have an extensive track record of outright lying, manipulating data, and knowingly pushing out harmful products in order to profit. It isn’t unreasonable to assume they would do it again, and it isn’t unreasonable to be skeptical of their claims(again many of which have already been proven to be outright false). It also isn’t unreasonable to suspect that things that we KNOW can cause heart issues are contributing in a very meaningful way to the increase in heart issues.


But yes, it is fair to point out that Covid itself also plays a role in the increase.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
No i never got it while going out frequently and daily and following a few simple rules, it wasn't hard to follow and did not disrupt my life at all.
And since you are in Chicago and i am in DC you don't know the truth, you are just a troll online that knows only 1/5th of what* i chose* to share.
Accuracy much?
And for the last time ever we protected the elders for one thanksgiving, and the only one that cares the most is some pathetic cop from Chicago who stalks me in every thread.
But thanks for your service in caring how my Thanksgiving was in 2020, you are so kind.

ocd= a cop from Chicago posting after me in most threads, mic drop!
Nope, you wore a mask in your **** gym, which covered your nose like a good little boot-licker.

I didn't, and you said I was breaking the law.

And if you were that concerned with Thanksgiving, you should have just stayed home, instead of standing at the entrance masked up for 15 minutes, grabbing a plate and leaving.

Also, I wasn't constantly getting a q-tip shoved up my nose like you.
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Originally Posted By TaiMaiSchutze
It predates Biden. Robert Kennedy Jr has pushed antivax bs for years. And this is also what happens when the GOP gets taken over by antiscience assclowns. The GOP used to be very pro vax, but after the exodus of the educated during the Bush fiasco, now you're left with the party of stupid.
Remember when they said if you got the vax, you would be 100% protected from the Rona, and you wouldn't spread it to others?

Now, was that a lie?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
So since you are one of the few reasonable guys around here, is it just 1 variable?
yo, isn't what I posted reasonable? any thoughts in it - really curious

don't keep arguing with the politicising mask/vax guy Dave.... nothing he says is of good quality
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
yo, isn't what I posted reasonable? any thoughts in it - really curious

don't keep arguing with the politicising mask/vax guy Dave.... nothing he says is of good quality
I don't think you know who Benny is, maybe you're new.

He's someone who lacks zero critical thinking skills, in the middle of February of last year, he was screeching at people to take Omicron seriously, 2 weeks later, when his masters told him it was okay to ditch the masks, and vaccine mandates were dropped, he changed his tune.

He accused me of breaking the law, for finding two gyms that remained open under the radar in March of 2020, but couldn't tell me what law I was breaking.
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If only he took his 5th booster he would have been alive
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Remember when they said if you got the vax, you would be 100% protected from the Rona, and you wouldn't spread it to others?
Why would you believe anyone who made such an irrational, baseless claim? No vaccine in human history has been 100% effective. That's just as dumb as believing every death since 2021 must be caused by a vaccine that someone may or may not have received

But keep deflecting and changing the subject, keep proving you can't directly address anything that disproves what you wish was true...
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Originally Posted By Cite
If only he took his 5th booster he would have been alive
If only you had proof that any vaccination was relevant to his death...
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Lold at making that statement with such certainty like you know it to be. Fact is, we have no idea what these injections do longterm and there is mounting evidence that heart issues are a real concern. See data I posted about the increase over the past few years.
Dude, long-term effects from mRNA vaccines won't be a thing. There's nothing to worry about on that front and even less so than regular vaccines. It would contravene everything we know about vaccinology. I've argued that extensively on here, have you just been ignoring my posts?



You know what biological phenomenondoesenter the system, lay dormant for years and even decades, and can resurface to cause long-term health effects, arguably better than anything else can? Viruses!
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Dude, long-term effects from mRNA vaccines won't be a thing. There's nothing to worry about on that front and even less so than regular vaccines. It would contravene everything we know about vaccinology. I've argued that extensively on here, have you just been ignoring my posts?



You know what biological phenomenondoesenter the system, lay dormant for years and even decades, and can resurface to cause long-term health effects, arguably better than anything else can? Viruses!
agreed but what about the study I posted cross comparing?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Nope, you wore a mask in your **** gym, which covered your nose like a good little boot-licker.

I didn't, and you said I was breaking the law.

And if you were that concerned with Thanksgiving, you should have just stayed home, instead of standing at the entrance masked up for 15 minutes, grabbing a plate and leaving.

Also, I wasn't constantly getting a q-tip shoved up my nose like you.
1.masks were a requirement or you had to leave, duh!
2. the law was clear, wear one or get the fk out!
3.i can do whatever the fk i want it is my family, and why is some "mall cop" so obsessed with my life; dude get a fkn life!
4. i had 1 test with a q-tip in October of 2020; you don't know chit!
Once again Dave00 proves that he knows nothing because he lies so much online that he gets confused with small details.
Try not lying about people and it will be easier for you not to get crushed in online debates.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well let's see, if you believe the unvaccinated should have been in camps, or forced to remain indoors, or lose their jobs, or refused medical care with the .01% chance they ended up in the hospital, or be forced to live worse than second class citizens, then yeah, I'm not gonna shed tears if you die.
Not shedding tears is one thing. Vigorously celebrating deaths is next level weird though. I don't want to root for everyday people to die boyo.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Why would you believe anyone who made such an irrational, baseless claim? No vaccine in human history has been 100% effective. That's just as dumb as believing every death since 2021 must be caused by a vaccine that someone may or may not have received

But keep deflecting and changing the subject, keep proving you can't directly address anything that disproves what you wish was true...
Remember when they called them “breakthrough cases” as if they were an exception and not the rule. Remember when they said it would prevent spread. No one expected them to 100% prevent any injected person from contracting Covid, but many(myself included) thought we should see a decrease in both deaths and numbers after administering hundreds of millions of doses in America. Yet we saw MORE cases and MORE deaths. Not really indicative of something that is effective.


Also, again:


There are two new variables; the virus and the injection and they both play a role. But as I pointed out the group that had the largest increase was the younger groups that are less likely to have bad bouts of Covid and more likely to have adverse events following the injection. Plus if a large majority of it was due to Covid then you would think that the numbers would drop as the virus weakened into its current form of basically being a cold. But that isn’t the case. And in fact it increased even more as the virus weakened. Of course, during that time we were injecting billions of people with a treatment in a form that we’ve never been able to safely and effectively develop. And it was delivered by companies that have an extensive track record of outright lying, manipulating data, and knowingly pushing out harmful products in order to profit. It isn’t unreasonable to assume they would do it again, and it isn’t unreasonable to be skeptical of their claims(again many of which have already been proven to be outright false). It also isn’t unreasonable to suspect that things that we KNOW can cause heart issues are contributing in a very meaningful way to the increase in heart issues.


But yes, it is fair to point out that Covid itself also plays a role in the increase.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Not shedding tears is one thing. Vigorously celebrating deaths is next level weird though. I don't want to root for everyday people to die boyo.
bull**** people were wishing death on people who refused to take the "vaccine" when this whole scam started.

some were even mocking "anti vaxxers"
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Originally Posted By messomi
bull**** people were wishing death on people who refused to take the "vaccine" when this whole scam started.

some were even mocking "anti vaxxers"
Yeah some people were, but that was a minority that stands out because of how fukked up it was. And looking back at how fukked up it was, why would anyone want to take that same approach/view of the world?
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A healthy immune system should be able to overcome any and all viruses and harmful bacteria. Go back in time and inject Gigachad's testicles with smallpox or SARS and he would feel absolutely nothing. People used to die more in the 19th century because so many were too poor to afford basic fruits and vegetables and most stuff simply did not grow where they were raised. Think about the Wild West and how many people could've survived if only antibiotics were discovered back then, natural or otherwise.

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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Remember when they called them “breakthrough cases” as if they were an exception and not the rule. Remember when they said it would prevent spread. No one expected them to 100% prevent any injected person from contracting Covid, but many(myself included) thought we should see a decrease in both deaths and numbers after administering hundreds of millions of doses in America. Yet we saw MORE cases and MORE deaths. Not really indicative of something that is effective.


Also, again:


There are two new variables; the virus and the injection and they both play a role. But as I pointed out the group that had the largest increase was the younger groups that are less likely to have bad bouts of Covid and more likely to have adverse events following the injection. Plus if a large majority of it was due to Covid then you would think that the numbers would drop as the virus weakened into its current form of basically being a cold. But that isn’t the case. And in fact it increased even more as the virus weakened. Of course, during that time we were injecting billions of people with a treatment in a form that we’ve never been able to safely and effectively develop. And it was delivered by companies that have an extensive track record of outright lying, manipulating data, and knowingly pushing out harmful products in order to profit. It isn’t unreasonable to assume they would do it again, and it isn’t unreasonable to be skeptical of their claims(again many of which have already been proven to be outright false). It also isn’t unreasonable to suspect that things that we KNOW can cause heart issues are contributing in a very meaningful way to the increase in heart issues.


But yes, it is fair to point out that Covid itself also plays a role in the increase.
I understand a reasonable distrust of the pharma companies, after all most don't cure disease but rather delay it, but in the presence of a pandemic something had to be done rather than nothing.
I personally recall in 2020 what was going on in Italy and NYC and it wasn't pretty. To do nothing would have been irresponsible and malpractice given the limited information that we had back then.
I personally had a family member who was the #9 case in the state of NJ and she almost did not make it, so this " operation warp speed" push by the former president Trump made good sense at the time.
I wonder what you as president would have done differently; then maybe we could find some common ground.
No one **wanted or was excited about** taking this, but again given the information at the time........
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