imagine being afraid of a cold LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO

there was no minority there was even a tv show on netflix mocking "anti vaxxers"

Yeah and they were wrong too. Two wrongs don't make a right. If you're trying to prove your argument why would you want to use the same tactic? Then you're no better than those weirdos and losers.

I also think that they were weird. But I'm not in a thread about celebrating unvaxxed deaths.

Well they were 100% wrong to do that, but that doesn't represent NORMAL PEOPLE.

Oh yeah I definitely agree something needed to be done, and I have no problem with Operation WarpSpeed. I agree with spending all that money on ventilators and making sure there were resources in place. And there were lots of other important changes like changing laws for Telehealth in order to keep healthcare going as much as possible. I have no problems with any of that because we had to do something. However, the tests we were using were absolutely known to be too sensitive. We also incentivized the reporting of Covid cases which lead to inflated numbers. I don’t agree with that, though to be fair there isn’t really a good way to cover Covid treatment without incentivizing that reporting.

But to just stick to the Operation Warp Speed, again I have no problem with us trying it because we had to do something. My problem comes from the fact that we were lied to, and the pharmaceutical companies used their leverage to stifle any alternative treatments and approaches in order to make the focus 100% on their product while demonizing anyone who didn’t follow along. And then our leaders(and healthcare “experts”) blatantly lied about the injections. Concerns from Covid were EXTREMELY exaggerated while concerns from the injections were not only downplayed/ignored, but if you even questioned them you got called a science-denying anti-vaxxer. The injections should’ve been presented as what they were “a new treatment with no longterm testing and minimal clinical trials” not some miracle that was gonna get us back to normal by preventing infection and spread. They changed the definition of “vaccine”. They said the injections stay local to the injection site. They said it is removed from body very quickly. Faucci said it will almost eliminate your chance of getting infected and will basically stop spread among the “vaccinated”. The list goes on and on and that is what my issue is with the whole thing. Sure, try to do something with regards to developing a treatment. But don’t stop all research into various avenues in order to funnel all focus to the “vaccine”. And don’t continue to lie REPEATEDLY about what the injection does while downplaying any potential for negative effects. We STILL recommend it for children and pregnant women. Where are the clinical trials for pregnant women? How about for kids?



Yeah we should’ve tried to develop a vaccine and other treatments, and all options should’ve been studied while promoting healthier lifestyles for everyone. And then when it was obvious the injections did very little to stop infection and spread the narrative should’ve been “well, these aren’t as effective as we had hoped, but the good news is that the virus isn’t a dangerous as we had feared either”. And then continue to study and offer them as dictated by what the actual legit science says. Not the horsesh!t we see now where we tell parents to inject their 7 year old with it, and won’t let people into the country unless they’ve had all borderline useless injections. The whole thing screams “we prioritize profit over health…..yet again”.

Never forgive, never forget. Purebloods put up with bullying and harassment from vaxcucks for 2 years. Odd, since most Libtard Vaxcels are anti-bullying and harassment, but I guess that only applies to those they agree with.

The truly powerful, were those who laughed in the face of their abusers. The purebloods who wouldn't back down, nor cave to peer pressure.

For everyone else, there's mastercuck.

Not really. The most I got was questions from a few coworkers or others about why I didn’t want to get it. I laid it all out with sound logic and no one gave a fukk after that. The worst I got was an older lady that I work with bringing it up early on and acting like I was making a really bad decision, at which point I said if she’s vaccinated she shouldn’t worry about what I do. Fast forward a year later and her sister’s doctor recommended that her sister not get the booster due to heart problems. And I’m the only one on my team that has never had Covid. I’d rather lead by example both with sound reasoning but also continuing to be someone people want to be around. That actually makes me more relatable and I’d say it makes others more likely to see things through my eyes in the future, especially when I’ve been proven right. No need to be a giant ******* to anyone, especially since no one was to me in person.

On spread for being kind, brah. My experience in Cancuckada was a lot different.

No Christmas, no Easter, no Thanksgiving get togethers, all by rule of law. Couldn't travel to see dying family members, couldn't travel to cheer up depressed lockdown family members, who actually roped. Couldn't travel to their funerals. People calling non-vaxxed "idiots who want old people to die", being told we deserve to die, do it for your neighbors blah blah blah... Neverending pressure to go get an absolutely useless jab.

No thanks, Jeff. Will never forgive nor forget.

Oh yeah, if I’d gone through that my views would certainly be a lot different. Luckily I live in a conservative state, and in response to Biden’s proposal of an injection mandate he said this “ Rest assured, we will fight them to the gates of hell to protect the liberty and livelihood of every South Carolinian.” Down here even my more left-leaning friends are not even close to the same level as liberals in places like Cali, NY, OR, or Canada. Most people were ready to get back to normal, and there were so many who just ignored mask requests and other similar policies that no one calls them out on it because we have a much more independent approach to things in general down here. That being said I’m not gonna lie, it still feels good to be proven right through all of this.

Why are you omitting the fact that the majority of those new cases and deaths... werein Unvaccinated people?


https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/co...akthrough-data


https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...country=~50%2B

We’ve already been through this and I’ve pointed out clear issues with reporting from hospitals and how they didn’t accurately track the vaccination status of patients. I’ve shared multiple articles and sources to back up this claim. We know that the data was inaccurate, we just don’t know HOW inaccurate it was/is. You’ll say it was minuscule if you even admit to it at all, and I’ll say it could be significant. Part of my reason for this is because the people giving us those numbers intentionally carried out fukkery along the way, starting with using tests that were way too sensitive and having suspicious at best testing protocols. But either way, there were tons of people who got injected and died from Covid and lots of people who got the injection and later developed Covid. Hell, practically everyone I know who got the injection ended up getting Covid…meanwhile I didn’t and never received a single shot or went out of my way to avoid anything. So they weren’t “breakthrough cases”(which is what I was highlighting in that post), they were simply infections due to ineffective injections.

Their arguments are insane...

But what about this tho

Sorry, but a lot of the people on this forum don’t really want to talk about stuff like that and many don’t want to take a nuanced view like you do. And that’s really weird because we know a person’s risk from Covid can vary greatly based on many factors and we know that certain factors put a person at greater risk from the injection than others.

But I’ll chime in, and the study you reference would seem to at least partially explain why the group with the largest increase in heart issues is the same group that appears to be at highest risk of adverse events after the injection. Obviously there are many factors, but again it’s increasing most in the younger groups and increased even more AFFER the injections were rolled out than it did when it was just Covid floating around(and that was OG “knock your d!ck in the dirt” Covid). At this point the very best benefit of the doubt you could give them is that it is almost all due to Covid alone and the injections don’t do anything at all to protect against those types of issues even as the virus weakens to cold status.

Huh? Facts and statistics that disprove your claims... are simply dismissed as inaccurate?What test is there for vaccination status?

dont agree with him but an antibody can test for Anti-S and Anti-N

Anti-S is usually produced as a response to a vaccine spike protein

Anti-N is usually produced as a response to the full nucleocapsid (full particle found in an usual infection's viral load)


positive S but not N would imply vaccination but no previous infection

vice versa would be previous infection but no vaccination


although I have seen studies that both can produce both types

Which vaccine did he get and when?

at least he wont have to take anymore jabs

They aren’t “simply dismissed as inaccurate”. We know that people who were/are vaccinated were counted as unvaccinated due to how vaccination status is tracked in hospitals. Again we’ve already been over this and I’ve shared clear examples and resources to show it’s the case. Whether it happened is not in question, the question is how much did it occur and was it enough to meaningfully impact statistics. And again…the point is that they weren’t “breakthrough cases”, it’s just because the injections are terribly ineffective.