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post 1679496353 03-23-2023, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth
Looks like ruZZian orcs officially sh*t the bed in Bakhmut now. No more laughable tryhard "surrender naooo!!!" videos from Prigozhin, nothing. Paper tiger yapping is dead in the water. So bad that Ukraine might even do a counter offensive lol. Get rekt.

Congratulations to vatnik idiots - you wasted endless hours of your life watching a bunch of Youtube videos with a scary pointy "encirclement" red arrows, and yet again you got nothing to show for it in real life. Keep it up folks. This is on par with Mueller Time fiasco that lasted for 22 months, so far you're at 14.
Prigozhin I think is getting kicked out of Ukraine entirely, fukking LOL
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Fukin absolutely humiliating to the misc vatniks.

Retard crew are BORN LOSERS
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Originally Posted By chalup
Prigozhin I think is getting kicked out of Ukraine entirely, fukking LOL
What makes you think this?
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post 1679497363 03-23-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
What makes you think this?
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Does he need a reason to just make things up?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uverify%20wall

Dabb do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?

Do you think he has an infinite source of bodies to pull from? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate his men are dealing with? Tell us buddy, im all ears.
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Originally Posted By chalup
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uverify%20wall

Dabb do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?

Do you think he has an infinite source of bodies to pull from? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate his men are dealing with? Tell us buddy, im all ears.
Fukin LOL. Wars over kids.
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post 1679497833 03-23-2023, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Bloomberg cited "people familiar with the matter." I wipe my a** with that
So thats it, you just completely ignore anything that disagrees with your point of view, and then eat up any and everything the Kremlin itself says. Truly fascinating.
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post 1679498203 03-23-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uverify%20wall

Dabb do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?

Do you think he has an infinite source of bodies to pull from? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate his men are dealing with? Tell us buddy, im all ears.
chalupa do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?


Do you believe this article? Do you think U.S. and EU will infinitely supply billions and billions + of military equipment/ammo while they report their own stocks are getting dangerously low? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate of the Ukrainian military? Why are they snatching people off the street for mobilization to the front?



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...aine-peace-bid

The United States began to fear that they would be "driven into a corner" due to Washington's skepticism about China's plan for a settlement in Ukraine - Bloomberg
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post 1679498313 03-23-2023, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uverify%20wall

Dabb do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?

Do you think he has an infinite source of bodies to pull from? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate his men are dealing with? Tell us buddy, im all ears.
Prigozhin responded to rumors that Wagner’s PMC was allegedly winding down its activities on the territory of Ukraine:

“I don’t know what Bloomberg reports, but apparently they know better than myself what we’re going to do next. As long as our country needs us, we are fighting on the territory of Ukraine.”

Prigozhin also recently said Wagner PMC is actively in the process of recruiting another 30k members into their ranks...

Doesn't sound like Wagner PMC is planning on leaving Ukraine, boyo
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post 1679498713 03-23-2023, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Prigozhin responded to rumors that Wagner’s PMC was allegedly winding down its activities on the territory of Ukraine:

“I don’t know what Bloomberg reports, but apparently they know better than myself what we’re going to do next. As long as our country needs us, we are fighting on the territory of Ukraine.”

Prigozhin also recently said Wagner PMC is actively in the process of recruiting another 30k members into their ranks...

Doesn't sound like Wagner PMC is planning on leaving Ukraine, boyo
Damn!
post 1679499113 03-23-2023, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
Prigozhin responded to rumors that Wagner’s PMC was allegedly winding down its activities on the territory of Ukraine:

“I don’t know what Bloomberg reports, but apparently they know better than myself what we’re going to do next. As long as our country needs us, we are fighting on the territory of Ukraine.”

Prigozhin also recently said Wagner PMC is actively in the process of recruiting another 30k members into their ranks...

Doesn't sound like Wagner PMC is planning on leaving Ukraine, boyo
Russia also that they were not going to invade Ukraine....literally days before they did just that, LMFAO

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post 1679499623 03-23-2023, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89
Russia also that they were not going to invade Ukraine....literally days before they did just that, LMFAO

I'd lay my wallet around a pack of wild methheads before I'd trust ANY Russians word, srs.
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post 1679500543 03-23-2023, 09:24 PM
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Looks like Ukraine is amassing for an attack towards Krasna Hora. 100k or so.

It's about to get real. I'm interested to see if a) Wagner gets direct support/co-fighting from the Russian regular army b) The Russian MOD let's them die, c) Wagner holds a fallback line outside of the City.

Either way, there is about to be massive amounts of loss, especially on the Ukrainian side rushing through open fields as they're known for at Russian lines. Difference this time is Wagner is an unknown if they'll fall back and Wagner is ahead of the Russian line.

Ukraine is doing their best to prevent the fall of the city. Pretty wild for a non-strategic part of the front, isn't it?
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Originally Posted By memcop
Looks like Ukraine is amassing for an attack towards Krasna Hora. 100k or so.

It's about to get real. I'm interested to see if a) Wagner gets direct support/co-fighting from the Russian regular army b) The Russian MOD let's them die, c) Wagner holds a fallback line outside of the City.

Either way, there is about to be massive amounts of loss, especially on the Ukrainian side rushing through open fields as they're known for at Russian lines. Difference this time is Wagner is an unknown if they'll fall back and Wagner is ahead of the Russian line.

Ukraine is doing their best to prevent the fall of the city. Pretty wild for a non-strategic part of the front, isn't it?
I think its more like 80k. May be enough to open the northern part of the city enough for the nazis trapped inside to escape
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post 1679501433 03-23-2023, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By memcop
Looks like Ukraine is amassing for an attack towards Krasna Hora. 100k or so.

It's about to get real. I'm interested to see if a) Wagner gets direct support/co-fighting from the Russian regular army b) The Russian MOD let's them die, c) Wagner holds a fallback line outside of the City.

Either way, there is about to be massive amounts of loss, especially on the Ukrainian side rushing through open fields as they're known for at Russian lines. Difference this time is Wagner is an unknown if they'll fall back and Wagner is ahead of the Russian line.

Ukraine is doing their best to prevent the fall of the city. Pretty wild for a non-strategic part of the front, isn't it?
Ukraine and the west have been winning the propaganda/media war. You only need to look at this thread as evidence of that.

Russia has been decimating the Ukrainian military, which is basically just NATO now anyway.

Ukraine will do anything they can to push Russia back here, the optics are desperately needed. This is about the PR. I cant believe they are going to throw this many men at a city that we are told has no strategic value apparently.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
chalupa do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?


Do you believe this article? Do you think U.S. and EU will infinitely supply billions and billions + of military equipment/ammo while they report their own stocks are getting dangerously low? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate of the Ukrainian military? Why are they snatching people off the street for mobilization to the front?



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...aine-peace-bid

The United States began to fear that they would be "driven into a corner" due to Washington's skepticism about China's plan for a settlement in Ukraine - Bloomberg
I’ve said men are dying at a crazy pace for both sides. The reality is Ukraine has more people willing to throw themselves in the war to defend their country and as long as support continues for Ukraine Russia will not win. Both sides are suffering a stupid amount of deaths for no reason at this point, and we now have no idea what Russias end goal is regarding this war.

Any more retarded questions?

And Dabb I have zero desire to go back and quote you defending words from the Kremlin while dismissing other sources. Everyone ITT knows you have done it though and you yourself know you have done it.
post 1679501583 03-23-2023, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted By MeSoHawny
Ukraine and the west have been winning the propaganda/media war. You only need to look at this thread as evidence of that.

Russia has been decimating the Ukrainian military, which is basically just NATO now anyway.

Ukraine will do anything they can to push Russia back here, the optics are desperately needed. This is about the PR. I cant believe they are going to throw this many men at a city that we are told has no strategic value apparently.
Do tel me how they have been decimating Ukraine military yet have lost major cities like Kherson? Also failed to secure places like Bakmut? I went back and quoted you same retards saying Bakmut was going to fall any day back in October for Christ sake. And instead of doing the decent thing and admitting you all were wrong you have doubled down as if this is some huge victory if Bakmut is EVER secured. You will just completely ignore it if Ukraine actually launched a counter offensive from it like the mongoloids you are.
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Originally Posted By memcop
Looks like Ukraine is amassing for an attack towards Krasna Hora. 100k or so.

It's about to get real. I'm interested to see if a) Wagner gets direct support/co-fighting from the Russian regular army b) The Russian MOD let's them die, c) Wagner holds a fallback line outside of the City.

Either way, there is about to be massive amounts of loss, especially on the Ukrainian side rushing through open fields as they're known for at Russian lines. Difference this time is Wagner is an unknown if they'll fall back and Wagner is ahead of the Russian line.

Ukraine is doing their best to prevent the fall of the city. Pretty wild for a non-strategic part of the front, isn't it?
How many men has Russia let die trying to take Bakmut? Why do you insist on ignoring these numbers? Or making up some stupid shiet like a 100 to 1 death ratio yet failing to secure a city in over half a year.
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Originally Posted By chalup
Do tel me how they have been decimating Ukraine military yet have lost major cities like Kherson? Also failed to secure places like Bakmut? I went back and quoted you same retards saying Bakmut was going to fall any day back in October for Christ sake. And instead of doing the decent thing and admitting you all were wrong you have doubled down as if this is some huge victory if Bakmut is EVER secured. You will just completely ignore it if Ukraine actually launched a counter offensive from it like the mongoloids you are.
Kherson is tactically a terrible position to hold. Russias retreat from there was planned and inflicted heavy ukrainian loses. The amount of vehicles ukraine has been losing in that area is surprisingly high for limit amount of conflict there right now.

Ukraine took that city back but it was a loss doing so. Now on the other side Russias retreat from outskirts of Kharkiv was an unorganized mess and they did lose a lot there.
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Originally Posted By Skezo
Kherson is tactically a terrible position to hold. Russias retreat from there was planned and inflicted heavy ukrainian loses. The amount of vehicles ukraine has been losing in that area is surprisingly high for limit amount of conflict there right now.

Ukraine took that city back but it was a loss doing so. Now on the other side Russias retreat from outskirts of Kharkiv was an unorganized mess and they did lose a lot there.
They held a fukkin vote in Kherson and according to that vote wanted to join Russia, and they couldn’t hold the city? Are you being serious or trolling?
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Originally Posted By Skezo
Kherson is tactically a terrible position to hold. Russias retreat from there was planned and inflicted heavy ukrainian loses. The amount of vehicles ukraine has been losing in that area is surprisingly high for limit amount of conflict there right now.

Ukraine took that city back but it was a loss doing so. Now on the other side Russias retreat from outskirts of Kharkiv was an unorganized mess and they did lose a lot there.
Russia spent two months killing nazis trying to run at them up a hill and then left when they ran out of ammo. The retard crew feels this is such an amazing victory they still get turned on just thinking about it
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Originally Posted By chalup
I’ve said men are dying at a crazy pace for both sides. The reality is Ukraine has more people willing to throw themselves in the war to defend their country and as long as support continues for Ukraine Russia will not win. Both sides are suffering a stupid amount of deaths for no reason at this point, and we now have no idea what Russias end goal is regarding this war.
Yea, this is why we see so many people being snatched off the streets by Ukrainian military police, many even try to fight/argue back but it's pointless, they will be taken willingly or not… This is because they want to die at the front for Ukraine, not even our own miscer Merlen90 who claims to live in Kiev is willing to go to the front.

Ukraine has an infinite supply of willing troops, apparently...

We do know Russia's end goal, Putin made the goals clear when he gave his pre-invasion speech.





A resident of the Chernivtsi region drowned while trying to swim across the Tisa River in Transcarpathia to illegally enter Romania.

The body of the 23-year-old drowned man was pulled out of the water by employees of the Western Regional Department of the State Border Guard Service:
"Checking the information provided by Romanian colleagues about the probable death of a man in the river at night, about 7:30, border patrol from the "Solotvino" department saw a body in the middle of the river that was hooked on an unknown obstacle and was on the surface of the water.

With him they found a passport and a driver's licence wrapped in polyethylene.

In its report, the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine specified that the man was the 15th drowned person who died in the waters of the Tisza while trying to illegally leave the territory of Ukraine.



If people are so eager to go fight and die for Kiev at the front, why did Zelensky close the borders to prevent males from fleeing the country...









You said you're going to cut back on the chitposting ITT because you're going to become a poker pro, you literally post the exact same amount lmao

Why even post something like that if the next day you go back to chitposting the same amount?
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Originally Posted By chalup
I’ve said men are dying at a crazy pace for both sides. The reality is Ukraine has more people willing to throw themselves in the war to defend their country and as long as support continues for Ukraine Russia will not win. Both sides are suffering a stupid amount of deaths for no reason at this point, and we now have no idea what Russias end goal is regarding this war.

Any more retarded questions?

And Dabb I have zero desire to go back and quote you defending words from the Kremlin while dismissing other sources. Everyone ITT knows you have done it though and you yourself know you have done it.
This is untrue. The losses are not proportional, at all.

On another note, support for Ukraine will draw to a close based on the pure economics of the situation. It is only a matter of when based on the west's tolerance for stockpile depletion. I'd actually expect for Chinese weapons to be showing up for testing in support of Russia though I see no shortage projected for stockpile and production of artillery.

Russian endgoals are clearly stated, small goals & initial small army. My estimation is moving all the way to the river, splitting the country though after the bakhmut/kramatorsk network is taken, it's basically done. We're in the physical endstate, slow as it might be. Nothing backs the area to support a Ukrainian war effort.
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Originally Posted By Skezo
Now on the other side Russias retreat from outskirts of Kharkiv was an unorganized mess and they did lose a lot there.
Yes and no. Kharkiv was near evacuated and withdrawn. It was an entirely empty front. Ukraine caught some Russian territorial defense police slipping and moved so quickly they caught up to the exiting extracted ethnic Russian civilian population.

The brilliance and their cunning was pressing the offensive onward to the Donbas and retaking that very specific ground which was a painful setback for the Russians. Russia retreated and were not overrun. They are a firing line, they leave.

They did the same chit around Keiv & Kherson. Straight cultural extraction.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/12/20/...l-institutions
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
chalupa do you just ignore articles you don't agree with?


Do you believe this article? Do you think U.S. and EU will infinitely supply billions and billions + of military equipment/ammo while they report their own stocks are getting dangerously low? Do you not actually believe the insane casualty rate of the Ukrainian military? Why are they snatching people off the street for mobilization to the front?



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...aine-peace-bid

The United States began to fear that they would be "driven into a corner" due to Washington's skepticism about China's plan for a settlement in Ukraine - Bloomberg
A Chinese peace treaty would cement to the decline of the US.

Everyone knows the US is a corrupt racist chithole. They see half the world as untermensch.

The US is full of the most undeveloped, low IQ retards going. Yet they think they're better than people far moredeveloped than they are.

The US is the empreror with no clothes.
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Originally Posted By chalup
They held a fukkin vote in Kherson and according to that vote wanted to join Russia, and they couldn’t hold the city? Are you being serious or trolling?
The Kherson manouvre was a tactical master piece. It is being criticised by smooth brains who think war is about holding the line and fighting to the last man.
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Originally Posted By memcop
Looks like Ukraine is amassing for an attack towards Krasna Hora. 100k or so.

It's about to get real. I'm interested to see if a) Wagner gets direct support/co-fighting from the Russian regular army b) The Russian MOD let's them die, c) Wagner holds a fallback line outside of the City.

Either way, there is about to be massive amounts of loss, especially on the Ukrainian side rushing through open fields as they're known for at Russian lines. Difference this time is Wagner is an unknown if they'll fall back and Wagner is ahead of the Russian line.

Ukraine is doing their best to prevent the fall of the city. Pretty wild for a non-strategic part of the front, isn't it?
heres to hoping they will. they actually have to in order to save face for the western liberal world order. i think russia is just gonna retreat and light em up with arty again like they did with the last 3 ukrainian armies they destroyed. clausewitz.
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