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post 1679589273 03-25-2023, 02:27 PM
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People say paleo or any ancestral eating heuristic is pseudoscience but...

Every time I eat blueberries/raspberries/blackberries or a beef steak I feel refreshed but if I eat a tub of Ben n Jerries after the dopamine hit from the sweet I feel like ****, body aches... even with a plate of white rice eaten in a "balanced" meal makes me want to go to sleep after 20 min
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post 1679589923 03-25-2023, 02:37 PM
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I think any sort of overly restrictive diet, unless you have an actual underlying health issue (i.e. Crone's disease or diabetes) or are training for world class level of performance, is majoring in the minors. People say Paleo is a bit pseudoscientific because it bans all grains, legumes, etc. but allows for a lot of fruits, which could arguably be even worse for you because of the simple sugars in them. I think certain forms of paleo even ban nightshades and potatoes, which seems pretty potato to me.

There's a whole spectrum in between berries/beef only and Ben and Jerry's. My mantra is the more ingredients on a food's package and the less able I'm able to pronounce them, the less I should include them in my diet. No bullchit restrictions or excluding whole food groups - just common sense.
post 1679590093 03-25-2023, 02:39 PM
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It has nothing to do with it being "paleo", OP. White rice & ice cream are high in simple sugars that aren't balanced by the fiber in thins like berries. Berries are also actually very low in carbs in general. You can stay in ketosis and hav some blueberries for example. You also likely have poor insulin sensitivity and may wanna check your A1C. I actually feel more energized after things like rice, bread, or even a small amount of ice cream.
post 1679590163 03-25-2023, 02:41 PM
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how do you go from that to paleo
post 1679590253 03-25-2023, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
potatoes, which seems pretty potato to me.
Agreed.
post 1679590423 03-25-2023, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Strawng⏩
It has nothing to do with it being "paleo", OP. White rice & ice cream are high in simple sugars that aren't balanced by the fiber in thins like berries. Berries are also actually very low in carbs in general. You can stay in ketosis and hav some blueberries for example. You also likely have poor insulin sensitivity and may wanna check your A1C. I actually feel more energized after things like rice, bread, or even a small amount of ice cream.
I see what you mean but I expected white rice, in a balanced meal (e.g. with some broc for fiber and fatty chicken tighs or pork steak), to crash me less than 500 grams of berries because white rice is starch compared to direct sugars.

Blood sample taken today. Will know fasting insulin and A1C for the whole HOMA IR.

Weirdly, I can feel the BnJ and white rice energy but I crash hard later. Rice makes me crash harder.
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post 1679590553 03-25-2023, 02:46 PM
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I find it funny to model any lifestyle after a group of people for whom 35 was old age.

That being said, the food in the dirt is cleaner than all the processed stuff out there.
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You literally just compared two extremes of optimal blood sugar stabilization to foods that cause a huge insulin spike. The key of being healthy and fit is to have balanced blood sugar levels were they aren't going up and down all day like a rollercoaster, or are steadily above normal range. (Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By bigcat3655⏩
I find it funny to model any lifestyle after a group of people for whom 35 was old age.

That being said, the food in the dirt is cleaner than all the processed stuff out there.
average was significantly reduced because people used to die from pandemics, which nutrition can't save you from, and dying from predators which we have now conquered
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I don't think there is anything scientific about those diets other than removing preservatives and other synthetic compounds found in proccessed foods. You could probably get the same results if you just removed foods containing said chemicals. Only diet that has any scientific backing are raw food diets,because enzymes which are benificial to your gut biome are destroyed at high temperature(cooking), even then the benifit is over blown
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post 1679592313 03-25-2023, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
You literally just compared two extremes of optimal blood sugar stabilization to foods that cause a huge insulin spike. The key of being healthy and fit is to have balanced blood sugar levels were they aren't going up and down all day like a rollercoaster, or are steadily above normal range. (Ded fkn Srs)
but berries should also give you blood sugar
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