Misc politics experts,

aware me

50%

I honestly love Trump, but he will hurt the GOP in 2024 if he actually becomes the primary. (Ded fkn Srs)

Trump's political career ended in 2020. He needs to quietly disappear, which will never happen.

3.50%

he will probably lose if he runs, but there is no current person in consideration that would do better (looking at you, desantards). the best chance republicans have is embracing the shift to the left and supporting someone like Manchin.

Zero voting is Compromised

Don't listen to anyone, just look at the $ prediction markets

He's leading Biden in the RCP average -https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-7383.html

Granted, it's not because Trump has a lot of support: his average is just 44.1%. Trump is ahead right now because Biden has lost a ton of support from 2 years ago. He's polling at just 42.3%. In 2020, Biden got 51.4% of the vote.

That's the one thing I feel people are missing about 2024. Everything is talking about Trump. But Biden right now is very unpopular. Check out his favorability ratings:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...able-6677.html

Unless something major happens, we're looking at an election similar to 2016 where everyone hates both candidates

You’re retarded. Try to think a little more.

They had to conjur up millions of votes to beat Trump in 2020, but even with all the fraud from ballot harvesting it wasnt enough the night off- see how they “stopped” counting, but then every state magically gained a big dump of blue votes.
Obviously they can’t fraud as easily with mail-in ballots this time, and as Arizona just saw, there isn’t much you can do unless you beat them at their game.

If it was an honest election: Trump would win over 400 electoral votes.
Realistically? They’ll do anything to keep him from getting into power again because he is the only one that can actually fight the decline of our nation

You're right, only things are reversed. Instead of Bernie and Hillary splitting the dem votes, Trump and Desantis are going to split the conservative vote.

trump will only win if the reptilians allow it

Gop WILL lose if its not trump. fact

a huge chunk of their voters are Trump or Bust.

Trump has this in the bag imo. They are going to use Mass mail in voting too now. The lefts only chance is to arrest/remove him.

Honestly very little. He gets such an emotional response on the left and a lot of left leaning voters vote on emotion. He could cure cancer and eliminate covid from the face of the earth a month before the election and he'd still lose. GOP needs to go another direction. My personal opinion is DeSantis would be the best choice. He's similar to Trump on policy without the emotional baggage. I'm sure the media would come out in full force calling him a racist bigot woman hating transphobe but they'd do that to any GOP nominee.

Not good at all, Democrats still have TDS + the assist from Roe being overturned, even though Biden sucks they still have reason to vote against Trump as we saw in the midterms.

And Trump's done nothing to raise his stock

Republicans are already coping saying the 2024 elections are rigged too, they forgot what winning looks like and would rather complain instead.

bout 350%

[QUOTE=iloveus post_id=1680555893][img]https://media.tenor.com/k7kI2tsC0T0AAAAd/they-live1988-sk/img]

[img]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AcceptableDisfiguredAldabratortoise-mobijpg[/img]

[img]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/fb/ae/67fbae4896e3d0704357fa25b8f14cgif[/img]

[img]https://33.media.tumblr.com/24102a216333511ba702c99d18773fee/tumblr_ncwarp4gEa1rp0vkjo1_50]

[img]https://64.media.tumblr.com/a55752a5210ea43fb12d053f0e394ba5/14b2f7dc80e22cf5-80/s540x810/09a4381e15be9b3ea980a015b18c2782c8948d05.gimg][/QUOTE]
Also:

[img]https://i.ibb.co/6NbFRs4/78324442-023-D-46-A8-978-E-FDC6-BDB73724.jpg[/img]

[b]Spoiler![/b][SPOILER][img]https://i.ibb.co/JzFtqTX/731812-FD-60-C3-475-E-AE40-65-A72285-A28-D.jpg[/img][/SPOILER]

Trump will doom the GOP if he becomes the nominee.

1. The people that voted for biden as a vote against trump, are not going to vote FOR trump in '24. Even if they believe the country has gone to chit under biden they'd rather"cut off their nose to spite their face"than vote for trump. I know this because I live in california and hear it first hand, and sure, you can say the media brainwashed them, and it most likely did, but the damage has been done and trump nor the GOP have been able to do anything to change that sentiment about him.

2. A lot of boomer voters will have died and noone is replacing their base.

3. There's something like 50million Gen Z and Zoomers who will become eligible to vote by '24 and if the midterms were a premonition to what 2024 will be like, the GOP is in trouble. They were quite literally raised to hate trump. Their hatred for trump is a ubiquitous as saying 2+2=4.

4. It needs to be DeSantis. At least the GOP would have a fighting chance. trump is too volatile too much drama too much baggage too much controversy, AND he was the one that appointed judges that increased abortion restrictions in a number of states and the soon to become largest voting block is still pissed about that.

5. All trump has is his loud base but those numbers are small compared to the ever growing GenZ demographic.

I agree, well said.

I was old enough to remember Reagan's trouncing of Democrats and Trump's was the closest thing to that since.




Back then, Democrats crossed over and voted for Reagan because they knew that he was the better for a free US, even if they disagreed politically, except for idiotic Minnesota (which still votes in morons).

Do we have word if anyone else is running yet?

yeah...but that was 1980, before amnesty, and when the country was, like, 75% white, and a minimum wage job actually afforded a young person a means to go to college and buy a house.

Yes.

Nikki Haley, A guy named Asa Hutchinson, Perry Johnson, and Vivek Ramaswamy.

Lord help us.

While these are some good points, I don’t think the GOP has a shot with anyone except Trump.

DeSantis may seem like the obvious choice on the surface, but he is inspiring nobody. He has tanked in the polls because he has no charisma. No ability to fight back or withstand the light jabs from Trump. No way he stands up to the onslaught of the media. All of those Zoomers you refer to just see him as an empty suit, typical politician. Plus he is accepting Neocon money from the Paul Ryan/Karl Rove machine. I don’t trust that he won’t be influenced if elected. After Ron, there’s quite literally nobody viable.

Many Boomers have died off who would’ve turned out for Trump. True. However Boomers are also easiest for the legacy media to influence. I think way more TDS comes from the 40-60 year old college educated female demographic than Gen Z (srs).

Don’t write off the young generation so quickly. They are unplugged from the matrix more than anyone. Trump still has that untouchable celebrity status too.

Let’s face it, Trump is cool. He received massive cheers on Saturday at the UFC. The entire crowd was chanting “Let’s Go Brandon.” Those weren’t some stuffy old evangelicals in the arena. They were a diverse group of 18-40 year olds who enjoy cage-fighting, many Blacks and Hispanics, not the type to listen to the mainstream media. These kids see through the bullchit especially after the recent witch hunt. I can even speak anecdotally as a brah in his mid-20s. A lot of my friends have voiced support for Trump recently. People are waking up.

Quick examples:




Additionally, Biden’s popularity has tanked since the 2020 election. He did turnout a segment of the population who were sick of the mean tweets and wanted a return to the Obama-era normalcy. Fair enough. But we never returned to normalcy. It’s been disaster after disaster since he took office. America is indisputably worse off under Biden than they ever were under Trump. The economy is in shambles, inflation has wiped out our savings and wrecked our buying power. An entire generation may never afford home ownership. A recession is widely predicted to hit before the 2024 election. Anyone honest will reflect on this and vote for Trump even if they dislike him personally.

I know the forces of nature are all against Donald Trump this time, I just don’t see how Biden can ever get re-elected after what this country has been through.

Zero çhance. The USA is too corrupted to allow it.

So many bad takes, Jesus dude. You're a good poster but you have some serious blinders on then it comes to Trump.
You are aware Trump gave Paul Ryan everything he wanted as Ryan continuously screwed him over right? And Karl Rove was actively involved in Trumps campaign. But somehow DeSantis is the Ryan/Rove shill?

I mean you're basing Trumps support off of a UFC event. Just so you know, Trump is going to perform extremely badly with blacks and Hispanics in 2024.

At least Desantis can maybe stop the GOP's bleeding in the suburbs. I give Desantis a 50/50 shot against Biden. Trump on the other hand will get absolutely trounced. It'll be a blood bath.

Better strategy would be to make sure to hold the house and pick up the senate. The SCOTUS is locked republican for a while. Trump getting into office again seems like a very long shot.

About 5%

If democrats won in 2018,2020,2021 ga run off,2022 and the 2022 ga run off, what chance would Trump have in 2024?

Even if it was because of cheating, democrats and rinos now have more control over state legislatures, ags, sec of states and governorships ( with the exception of nv) in swing states (Penn, nv, ga, az, Wis, Michigan) than before the 2022 midterm . The entire election process will be overseen by democrats in az, unlike before.

If it’s because Americans are brainwashed by the media, the same idiots who gave us 2018,2020,2021 ga run off,2022 and the 2022 ga run off will vote in 2024 along will millions of people who were too young to vote in past elections.