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post 1680708493 04-13-2023, 04:59 AM
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Climate change sounds like more bullchit

Kinda like covid and the vaccines narrative. I'm not buying it brahs.
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yeah we've heard that 1 b4
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10 years ago it was "global warming" now the clowns changed it to "climate change" NO sh*t u ****z, the climate is always changing regardless of human impact. Fcking clows


And 40 years ago it was "global cooling" btw...


It's a farce
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well.... There was an ice age at one point, so yeah the climate IS changing.

lmao.
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My 12 year old nephew was given "homework" on the website educationperfect .com. He was made to explain in his own words why "conspiracy theories" and "fake news" are bad and why climate change is real. It was over an hour of work, just brainwashing propaganda type chit. Check out who majority stakeholder of that website is.



Some investment company with their tentacles in sustainable energy bs. It's obviously in their best interest to brainwash the next generation to never question any "official government narrative". Get em while they're young. I wonder who owns KKR
post 1680709323 04-13-2023, 05:44 AM
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Yea don't want to hear the government lecture me on climate change when they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline
post 1680709703 04-13-2023, 05:57 AM
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https://www.amazon.com/Climate-Corru.../dp/1608320839



Excerpt:
Public exposure of hacked e-mail files retrieved from the Climate Research
Unit (CRU) at Britain’s University of East Anglia revealed scandalous
communications among researchers who have fomented global warming
hysteria. Their exchanges confirm long-standing and broadly suspected
manipulations of climate data. Included are conspiracies to falsify and withhold
information, to suppress contrary findings in scholarly publications, and to
exaggerate the existence and threats of man-made global warming. Many of
these individuals have had major influence over summary report findings issued
by the United Nations’ IPCC. This organization has been recognized as the
world authority on such matters, and it shares a Nobel Prize with Al Gore for
advancing climate change awareness.

Among the more than three thousand purloined CRU documents is an e-mail
from its director, Philip Jones, regarding a way to fudge the data to hide
evidence of temperature declines: “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature [journal]
trick of adding the real temperatures to each series for the past 20 years [i.e.,
from 1981 onward] and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline [emphasis
mine].” “Mike,” in this instance, refers to climatologist Michael Mann, who
created the now infamous “hockey stick” chart that has repeatedly appeared in
IPCC reports, as well as in Al Gore promotions, to portray accelerated global
warming beginning with the Industrial Revolution—hence, caused by humans.
The chart has been thoroughly debunked thanks to careful analyses by two
Canadian researchers who uncovered a variety of serious problems. Included are
calculation errors, data used twice, and a computer program that produced a
hockey stick out of whatever data was fed into it.
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Some of the e-mails reveal less than full public candor about what scientists
don’t know about past temperatures. For example, one from Edward Cook,
director of tree ring research at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Laboratory, to CRU’s
deputy director Keith Briffa on September 3, 2003, admitted that little could be
deduced regarding past Northern Hemisphere temperatures from the tree ring
proxy data Mann used: “We can probably say a fair bit about [less than] 100-
year extra-tropical NH temperature variability … but honestly know f**k-all
[expletive deleted] about what the [more than] 100-year variability was like with
any certainty.”

Correspondence leaves no doubt that the members of the network were
concerned the cooling since 1998 they had observed would be publicly exposed.
In an October 26, 2008, note from CRU’s Mick Kelly to Jones, he comments,
“Yeah, it wasn’t so much 1998 and all that I was concerned about, used to
dealing with that, but the possibility that we might be going through a longer 10-
year period of relatively stable temperatures . . .” He added, “Speculation but if I
see this possibility, then others might also. Anyway, I’ll maybe cut the last few
points off the filtered curve before I give the talk again as that’s trending down
as a result of the effects and the recent cold-ish years.”
All these names are real people, you can find their info online. What they say to the general public is often very different than what goes on behind closed doors.
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But who was medival warming period?
But who was little ice age?
But who was rapid warming at younger dryas boundry?
But who was 400ft sea level change just 5-10,000 years ago?
But who was previous CO2 levels being higher and life thriving?
But who was isostatic rebound?
But who was essentricity and Malakavich cycles?

But please put a tracker on my home thermostat and limit my daily gasoline usage. Trust the science bro, they know everything and have never been wrong and their models are accurate and totally not punching in worst case scenario made up numbers and telling everyone thats the "conservative" outcome if we dont eat bugs. Is Miami under water yet....?
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post 1680711143 04-13-2023, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
My 12 year old nephew was given "homework" on the website educationperfect .com. He was made to explain in his own words why "conspiracy theories" and "fake news" are bad and why climate change is real. It was over an hour of work, just brainwashing propaganda type chit. Check out who majority stakeholder of that website is.



Some investment company with their tentacles in sustainable energy bs. It's obviously in their best interest to brainwash the next generation to never question any "official government narrative". Get em while they're young. I wonder who owns KKR
Yeah your nephew is being brainwashed - maybe you should buy him a bible and explain to why he shouldn't just believe everything he's taught at school?
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Apparently, no one in this thread passed elementary physics or chemistry.
post 1680711433 04-13-2023, 06:44 AM
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I’ve been developing climate change programs for the feds for the last few years. Focusing on carbon sequestration and ghg emission reduction. Why do you think it’s bs?
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
My 12 year old nephew was given "homework" on the website educationperfect .com. He was made to explain in his own words why "conspiracy theories" and "fake news" are bad and why climate change is real. It was over an hour of work, just brainwashing propaganda type chit. Check out who majority stakeholder of that website is.



Some investment company with their tentacles in sustainable energy bs. It's obviously in their best interest to brainwash the next generation to never question any "official government narrative". Get em while they're young. I wonder who owns KKR
Yeah.

My 8 year old is given historical figures to talk about so he kept asking me if I knew people like the wright brothers, or Edison, or Abraham Lincoln. He wanted to know what other presidents had been shot.

So we talked about Kennedy and the fbi not telling the truth and reason why people made up the term “conspiracy theory”

We also talked about Tesla and what happens when you’re naive and let people take advantage of you.


These schools aren’t nearly based enough, gotta supplement.



Although when he asked if I knew who Neil Armstrong was and I said an actor for Stanley Kubrick my wife started eyeing me funny and I dropped that one pretty quick.
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Originally Posted By naich
But who was medival warming period?
But who was little ice age?
But who was rapid warming at younger dryas boundry?
But who was 400ft sea level change just 5-10,000 years ago?
But who was previous CO2 levels being higher and life thriving?
But who was isostatic rebound?
But who was essentricity and Malakavich cycles?

But please put a tracker on my home thermostat and limit my daily gasoline usage. Trust the science bro, they know everything and have never been wrong and their models are accurate and totally not punching in worst case scenario made up numbers and telling everyone thats the "conservative" outcome if we dont eat bugs. Is Miami under water yet....?
Except during none of those periods were the man made ghg’s present. The compounds that have potency that increases over time, is synergistic with other greenhouse gases and last for thousands of years existing at levels in the atmosphere that co2 and other more natural emissions exist. Combine that with the destruction of the ozone and humans have created conditions that have never existed before.
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post 1680711543 04-13-2023, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted By dingler
I’ve been developing climate change programs for the feds for the last few years. Focusing on carbon sequestration and ghg emission reduction. Why do you think it’s bs?
Because they are uneducated retards.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
10 years ago it was "global warming" now the clowns changed it to "climate change" NO sh*t u ****z, the climate is always changing regardless of human impact. Fcking clows


And 40 years ago it was "global cooling" btw...


It's a farce
They changed it to climate change because the administration banned feds from using the term global warming. We had to updated all of our regulations and policies to reflect this. I was on a call with the White House staff in 2022 and that was the first time I’d ever heard any political appointee mention anything regarding climate change.
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Also man made climate change is very real but we’re at diminishing returns with respect to limiting and restricting first world countries. (Outside of leveling china) But the dogmatically obsessed environmentalist will continue to make out landish lifestyle suggestions in order to continue their cycle of dopamine in bettering the world.

Meanwhile the big impact we saw with the rise of modern cities is simply the cost of producing steel and concrete

No one wants to talk about steel and concrete.

Go figure out how much steel and concrete India is going to need to produce or Africa or South America, to fully industrialize their cities.

Would legit destroy the world.

So depopulate policies weeding out the least susceptible to being forced into a mold that benefits the modern technological system and repopulate with the influx of people from the boonies.

No more pesky nuclear families, just easily abused migrants and mentally Ill lost people.

Fukking sad.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
Also man made climate change is very real but we’re at diminishing returns with respect to limiting and restricting first world countries. (Outside of leveling china) But the dogmatically obsessed environmentalist will continue to make out landish lifestyle suggestions in order to continue their cycle of dopamine in bettering the world.

Meanwhile the big impact we saw with the rise of modern cities is simply the cost of producing steel and concrete

No one wants to talk about steel and concrete.

Go figure out how much steel and concrete India is going to need to produce or Africa or South America, to fully industrialize their cities.

Would legit destroy the world.

So depopulate policies weeding out the least susceptible to being forced into a mold that benefits the modern technological system and repopulate with the influx of people from the boonies.

No more pesky nuclear families, just easily abused migrants and mentally Ill lost people.

Fukking sad.
Actually, we can do something about it and we could 20 yrs ago as well, but people like you keep bullchitting and finding excuses to not do anything so you can then throw your hands up and say "oh well".

You know what will also destroy the world economy? Peak oil. So have fun with that you inbred fuk.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Actually, we can do something about it and we could 20 yrs ago as well, but people like you keep bullchitting and finding excuses to not do anything so you can then throw your hands up and say "oh well".

You know what will also destroy the world economy? Peak oil. So have fun with that you inbred fuk.
We can do something about the pollution byproduct of steel and concrete?

I’m really not that smart dude
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Climate change is a hoax, the election was stolen, guns are more important than the lives of school children, white supremacy.

Repeat after me, I am a miscer
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Originally Posted By dingler
Except during none of those periods were the man made ghg’s present. The compounds that have potency that increases over time, is synergistic with other greenhouse gases and last for thousands of years existing at levels in the atmosphere that co2 and other more natural emissions exist. Combine that with the destruction of the ozone and humans have created conditions that have never existed before.
Ah yes the scary green house gases, that have heat retention capabilities...you know, such as water vapor. This planet has seen co2 levels above where they are now and life thrived. Plant growth is up, average temps are up, yes, but not nearly what they were predicted to be. Go look at all the predictions from the 2000's...we still have glaciers. Same with sea level, same with predictions of localized climate changes.
Originally Posted By dingler
They changed it to climate change because the administration banned feds from using the term global warming. We had to updated all of our regulations and policies to reflect this.I was on a call with the White House staff in 2022 and that was the first time I’d ever heard any political appointee mention anything regarding climate change.
???, every popular democratic has been pushing concern over global warming and climate change (interchangable) every time they give a speech for the last decade....please remove head from sand. Every popular republican has been doing the exact opposite as well. Climate change is consistently top 5 topics in any national speech/debate. It was global warming until the warming trend stopped being so consistent about 10 years ago and they realized they could attract less skepticism if they changed the term to climate change as that way any change that occurs, colder or hotter, they can claim a victory with. Thats the game they play.

Climate change has been hijacked by the govt to be used as the boogeyman to usher in whatever restrictive regulations they deem fit. The fact that you dont see it that way and parrot ghg talking points and "2022 was the first time I heard a political appointee mention climate change" shows they got you hook, line and sinker.

If anyone gave a fook about the planet they would be picking up plastic from water and trying to convince the third world to have less kids and stop pouring acid and dead bodies into their rivers. But please continue sequestering carbon so companies can get a higher ESG score and backdoor pollute even harder knowing some schmo is planting a tree across the country they paid for.

And by the way, you made my point for me showing that those fluctuations in the little ice age and the medieval warming period were pre indutrial revolution. Thats the whole argument, the climate fluctuates wildly, in short time periods for unexplained reasons. But blame CO2. Correlation does not equal causation.
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Originally Posted By dingler
I’ve been developing climate change programs for the feds for the last few years. Focusing on carbon sequestration and ghg emission reduction. Why do you think it’s bs?
Because like most 'modern' science and advancements, it's mostly just half truths passed off as fact.
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It's not whether or not the Earth changes climates going from cold to hot. it's how fast the Earth's atmosphere has warmed in the past 100 years.
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Climate change is a hoax, the election was stolen, guns are more important than the lives of school children, white supremacy.

Repeat after me, I am a miscer
add all black people are criminals and all women are evil
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe
Because like most 'modern' science and advancements, it's mostly just half truths passed off as fact.
How are you even remotely qualified to evaluate what of science is true?
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Climate change is a hoax, the election was stolen, guns are more important than the lives of school children, white supremacy.

Repeat after me, I am a miscer
-not a hoax, hijacked and manipulated for alternative reasons that have nothing to do with polar bears.
-because having the FBI censor the internet and then having 99% of media control a false narrative is a fair election...
-rights in the constitution are in fact more important then anyones life, yes.
-not understanding the combination of anon online humor and the legit failings of certain races

repeat after me....I am low IQ and cannot see the nuance in life so I cry white supremacy and global warming.
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if it is inevitable and in the near future and so catostrophic - why are the efforts towards slowing it down instead of putting effort into living within the new conditions.
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Originally Posted By naich
Ah yes the scary green house gases, that have heat retention capabilities...you know, such as water vapor. This planet has seen co2 levels above where they are now and life thrived. Plant growth is up, average temps are up, yes, but not nearly what they were predicted to be. Go look at all the predictions from the 2000's...we still have glaciers. Same with sea level, same with predictions of localized climate changes.



???, every popular democratic has been pushing concern over global warming and climate change (interchangable) every time they give a speech for the last decade....please remove head from sand. Every popular republican has been doing the exact opposite as well. Climate change is consistently top 5 topics in any national speech/debate. It was global warming until the warming trend stopped being so consistent about 10 years ago and they realized they could attract less skepticism if they changed the term to climate change as that way any change that occurs, colder or hotter, they can claim a victory with. Thats the game they play.

Climate change has been hijacked by the govt to be used as the boogeyman to usher in whatever restrictive regulations they deem fit. The fact that you dont see it that way and parrot ghg talking points and "2022 was the first time I heard a political appointee mention climate change" shows they got you hook, line and sinker.

If anyone gave a fook about the planet they would be picking up plastic from water and trying to convince the third world to have less kids and stop pouring acid and dead bodies into their rivers. But please continue sequestering carbon so companies can get a higher ESG score and backdoor pollute even harder knowing some schmo is planting a tree across the country they paid for.

And by the way, you made my point for me showing that those fluctuations in the little ice age and the medieval warming period were pre indutrial revolution. Thats the whole argument, the climate fluctuates wildly, in short time periods for unexplained reasons. But blame CO2. Correlation does not equal causation.
It's still global warming. It's still happening. It's been known for like 100 years. This argument that it's just fluctuations has been debunked like a thousand times. The arguments are so fuking tiresome. Go ask any atmospheric physicist, meteorologist, or chemist about what is happening. They could clear up all your misconceptions, but of course, you've already made up your mind.
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Global warming will be a minor inconvenience to our infrastructure. Nothing more. Some construction and planning will be needed. More land will be available for growing food, with longer growing seasons.

The fear mongering is a religious session, complete with myths and false prophets.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
well.... There was an ice age at one point, so yeah the climate IS changing.

lmao.
We're in an ice age right now, the Pleistocene Ice Age that began ~2.5million years ago, but an interglacial period called the Holocene Interglacial that has been underway for about 11,700 years.

The entirety of human civilization has occurred just in this interglacial period
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
Kinda like covid and the vaccines narrative. I'm not buying it brahs.
I have lived in the same area forever, DC, and only 2 times in the last 2 decades have we had no snow all season.
The normal winter used to be highs 30's and 20's with a low in the teens and that has completely flipped.
For 2 Christmas Eves we had 72 and 77 in church like a spring day.
It is in the 80's in spring, not 60's and low 70's like normal and we have hit 100 several summer days.

So we don't have to call it climate change but we need to call the drastic changes something.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I have lived in the same area forever, DC, and only 2 times in the last 2 decades have we had no snow all season.
The normal winter used to be highs 30's and 20's with a low in the teens and that has completely flipped.
For 2 Christmas Eves we had 72 and 77 in church like a spring day.
It is in the 80's in spring, not 60's and low 70's like normal and we have hit 100 several summer days.

So we don't have to call it climate change but we need to call the drastic changes something.
We are about due for a pole shift. Could happen any day but reasonable estimates put it somewhere between 2040-2060. Up until that point the earth's magnetic field fluctuates and makes weather at the poles unstable. That's why you see the jet stream look like a sine wave over the whole US, cold air dipping deep into the west and warm air driving up.

We just can't override the sun as much as "consensus" makes us want to believe we can.
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