Care also includes counseling

So that's it? Youre just going to ignore the text of the bill so you can pretend youre right?

The fuk is this, again: They are creating a loophole so that the kid can get puberty blockers or other hormones and the parents dont need to be notified. Worst case, it's surgery.I dont understand your willingness to look like an absolute buffoon. "It also means counseling!" No ones saying it doesn't.

Do have in depth knowledge about how trannies are treated/receive "care", especially in this sort of context, or are you just speculating and pulling claims out of your ass?

That loophole is for shelter.

Shelter from their parents being able to prevent them from puberty blockers and/or genital mutilation.

Unless the American approach is drastically different than the Canadian approach, yes I have knowledge.

Shelters to choose over homelessness.

Alright man, negged. It literally says it in the bill that the parents dont need to be notified if theres a "reason," and theyd just have to report it to the state. With that, they can then receive gender affirming care which includes surgery/hormone blockers/etc. I've quoted and posted it.

Youre a seriously deranged individual.

aka, government incentivizing children to run away by giving them a place to "hide from their abusive parents" and receive "gender affirming care" by the state, all without the knowledge of the parents.

Wow, that's a lot errors. I'm beginning to suspect that his credibility is rather dubious, at best.

Anger, which is a secondary emotion (usually with fear or sadness as the primary) impedes critical thinking. That makes the term "blind rage" rather fitting.

If you can't address the arguments, you can always go after the person

and you condone this?

You know making up peoples emotions in hopes you dont have to respond to literal text of the bill is a cowards move. People around the age of 15 stop using this tactic because it's so obvious. Srs.

Negging you doesnt mean I'm mad. It just means youre ignoring quoted posts that debunk your claim. That deserves a neg. Still feel free to tell me how text saying these kids can get surgery/hormone blockers w/o parental consent just means shelters. Lmao.

I posted the bill and the amendments.

I posted the text of the bill that says a child can get gender affirming care w/o parental consent.

What part of this is so hard? You just want to pretend youre trolling because youre unable to retract?

that's because parents still have a say in what surgeries and medications their children take.
oh wait.....

he sounds as stupid as the chit smearer and posts the same way.
i'm beginning to think every foreigner is mentally retarded.

If you can't address the arguments, you can always go after the person

Youth seeking
13 certain medical services are especially at risk and vulnerable.
14 Therefore, the legislature intends to remove barriers to accessing
15 temporary, licensed shelter accommodations for youth seeking certain
16 protected health care services.
Removes barriers to hormone blockers/surgery

If there are compelling reasons not to notify the
19 parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the
department.
Removes parental consent

(ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care
7 services.
8 (d) "Protected health care services" means gender affirming
9 treatment as defined in RCW 74.09.675 and reproductive health care
services as defined in RCW 74.09.875.
Health care specifying hormone blockers/surgery. Even being so specific as to call a ginoplasty (or whatever it is) not cosmetic.

Lmao. "iTs JuSt fOr sLeEPing!"

How is this an argument, still? Cant wait for the "I was just trolling the whole time," line.

I dont know what it is about people on the far left/right that were never born or instilled with the ability to take an L or retract.

You posted the definition of services, not what is provisioned in the Bill.

"Sec. 1. RCW 13.32A.082 and 2013 c 4 s 2 are each amended to read as follows:

(1)(a) Except as provided in (b) of this subsection, any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program that, without legal authorization, provides shelter to a minor and that knows at the time of providing the shelter that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, shall promptly report the location of the child to the parent, the law enforcement agency of the jurisdiction in which the person lives, or the department, unless a compelling reason applies as defined in subsection (2) of this section.16

(b)(i) If a licensed overnight youth shelter, or another licensed organization with a stated mission to provide services to homeless or runaway youth and their families, shelters a child and knows at the time of providing the shelter that the child is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission, it must contact the youth's parent within seventy-two hours, but preferably within twenty-four hours, following the time that the youth is admitted to the shelter or other licensed organization's program. The notification must include the whereabouts of the youth, a description of the youth's physical and emotional condition, and the circumstances surrounding the youth's contact with the shelter or organization. If there are compelling reasons not to notify the parent, the shelter or organization must instead notify the department.

(ii) At least once every eight hours after learning that a youth receiving services or shelter under this section is away from home without permission, the shelter or organization staff must consult the information that the Washington state patrol makes publicly available under RCW 43.43.510(2). If the youth is publicly listed as missing, the shelter or organization must immediately notify the department of its contact with the youth listed as missing. The notification must include a description of the minor's physical and emotional condition and the circumstances surrounding the youth's
contact with the shelter or organization.

(c) Reports required under this section may be made by telephone or any other reasonable means.

(2) Unless the context clearly requires otherwise, the definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section.

(a) "Shelter" means the person's home or any structure over which
the person has any control.

(b) "Promptly report" means to report within eight hours after the person has knowledge that the minor is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission.
(c) "Compelling reasons" include, but are not limited to((circumstances)):
(i) Circumstances that indicate that notifying the parent or legal guardian will subject the minor to abuse or neglect as defined in RCW 26.44.020; or
(ii) When a minor is seeking or receiving protected health care services.
(d) "Protected health care services" has the same meaning as provided in chapter . . ., Laws of 2023(Senate Bill No. 5489).

3) When the department receives a report under subsection (1) of this section, it shall make a good faith attempt to notify the parent

(4) Nothing in this section prohibits any person, unlicensed youth shelter, or runaway and homeless youth program from immediately reporting the identity and location of any minor who is away from a lawfully prescribed residence or home without parental permission more promptly than required under this section."

So youre not reading what youre posting. How many times do I have to show you the quotes of the bill?

If you're angry about services and their definition, this isn't the Bill you should be angry about.

Why do you keep trying to crutch on pretending im mad or something? Stop, thats something little kids do.

This bill allows a 12 year old to run away from home, say that the parents are abusive. With that, the "shelter" reports it to the state and then gives the child healthcare which can be anything from counseling to surgery. The parent(s) are never involved.

If you cant deal with that, the evidence/text of the bill, thats on you. But if you are really one of those people that just cant agree to factual text, you might have more underlying issues.

Not you specifically. It just seems "trans" is the latest asteroid for right-leaning folks to fear.

This Bill amends previous legislation to allow shelter provision for at risk youth without contacting parents. Youth who would likely otherwise remain on the street.

This bill allows a 12 year old to run away from home, say that the parents are abusive. With that, the "shelter" reports it to the state and then gives the child healthcare which can be anything from counseling to surgery. The parent(s) are never involved.

Which line?

https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/bienn...20230416161526

This is the legislation regarding age of consent:
https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=26.28.015

This is not amended in the Bill discussed at present.

What part of the new bill that creates a pathway for minors to get "gender reaffirming healthcare" without parental consent do you not understand?