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post 1681008893 04-17-2023, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Maybe. But I'd argue it's better than at risk youth being on the street.
The options are kids at shelter and not tell parents or kids are on the street?

Nope. More than that.
post 1681009213 04-17-2023, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
The options are kids at shelter and not tell parents or kids are on the street?

Nope. More than that.
Kinda

If a youth runs away from home they will likely avoid a shelter that immediately contacts the people they ran away from.
post 1681009453 04-17-2023, 07:26 PM
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Seems like the impetus
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
"The legislature finds that unsheltered homelessness for youth poses a serious threat to their health and safety. The Trevor project has found that one in three transgender youth report attempting suicide. Homelessness amongst transgender youth can further endanger an already at-risk population. The legislature further finds that barriers to accessing shelter can place a chilling effect on exiting unsheltered homelessness and therefore create additional risk and dangers for youth. Youth seeking certain medical services are especially at risk and vulnerable.

Therefore, the legislature intends to remove barriers to accessing temporary, licensed shelter accommodations for youth seeking certain protected health care services."
post 1681009833 04-17-2023, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Kinda

If a youth runs away from home they will likely avoid a shelter that immediately contacts the people they ran away from.
right that's your argument. But there are other options. Otherwise shelters that do contact parents would be empty but they aren't
post 1681010063 04-17-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
right that's your argument. But there are other options. Otherwise shelters that do contact parents would be empty but they aren't
There are a limited number of "compelling reasons". This Bill added one.
post 1681010313 04-17-2023, 07:39 PM
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Don't worry, folks.
Both parties are the same.
You should just vote blue because Reagan fired ATCs. And something about Richard Nixon. And McConnell.
It doesn't matter that ALL democrats voted yes on this.
Just keep voting blue, guys. Share Blue paid me 3 cents to post this. I'm a moderate conservative and the right wing has moved too far right. Obama was a conservative. Oz said crudite. Whitmer and Fetterman are true Americans who care about the poor. Lol @ cheering for your team. Help me get another 3 cents from ShareBlue. Vote blue.

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post 1681011743 04-17-2023, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted By ButWhoWasNoodz
Don't worry, folks.
Both parties are the same.
You should just vote blue because Reagan fired ATCs. And something about Richard Nixon. And McConnell.
It doesn't matter that ALL democrats voted yes on this.
Just keep voting blue, guys. Share Blue paid me 3 cents to post this. I'm a moderate conservative and the right wing has moved too far right. Obama was a conservative. Oz said crudite. Whitmer and Fetterman are true Americans who care about the poor. Lol @ cheering for your team. Help me get another 3 cents from ShareBlue. Vote blue.

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post 1681026963 04-18-2023, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The Trevor project has found that one in three transgender youth report attempting suicide.
And I'll bet that has absolutely nothing to do with the mental state of kids who think they were born something else. Best to indulge them.. cut pieces off, add others. Give them hormones and hormone blockers while indulging them.

Speaking of though JFC.. where are you with your transition? They take your cawk and insert your new vag yet? New boobs, or do they come later?
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1681027713 04-18-2023, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
There are a limited number of "compelling reasons". This Bill added one.
One is too many
post 1681028503 04-18-2023, 05:55 AM
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A parent may not even know why the child ran away and could involve law enforcement or other groups in a desperate search – all the while going through an unnecessary emotional nightmare, imagining the worst about what might have happened. It’s also wrong how this bill wouldalso apply to children from other states who may travel thousands of miles for services not available to them at home. Unless there is reason to suspect parental abuse or harm, parents deserve to know where their teenagers are.
It's not just Washington folks that have to worry...
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post 1681028553 04-18-2023, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
One is too many
Child abuse?
post 1681028593 04-18-2023, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted By -JR
It's not just Washington folks that have to worry...
Give the Bill a read.

Note the parts about youth reported as missing.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Child abuse?
Inform parents and CPS
post 1681029293 04-18-2023, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Inform parents and CPS
So they can continue?
post 1681029403 04-18-2023, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So they can continue?
I didn't say they had to send the kids back with the parents
post 1681029673 04-18-2023, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I didn't say they had to send the kids back with the parents
Read the associated legislation.

Shelters are required to inform parents of a youth's location with 72 hours unless there is a compelling reason not to do so.

Shelters do not hide, keep, or adopt youth. It's reported, but when compelling reasons are present parents are not given the location, for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Read the associated legislation.

Shelters are required to inform parents of a youth's location with 72 hours unless there is a compelling reason not to do so.

Shelters do not hide, keep, or adopt youth. It's reported, but when compelling reasons are present parents are not given the location, for obvious reasons.
Let me say again, to be clear: There is no compelling reason to not tell parents where their kid is.


For obvious reasons.
post 1681029893 04-18-2023, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Let me say again, to be clear: There is no compelling reason to not tell parents where their kid is.


For obvious reasons.
I disagree.

Abusive parents showing up at a shelter is likely a reason youth would avoid a shelter.

My position is that a shelter is better than the street.

Particularly for at risk youth.
post 1681029983 04-18-2023, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I disagree.

Abusive parents showing up at a shelter is likely a reason youth would avoid a shelter.

My position is that a shelter is better than the street.

Particularly for at risk youth.
I understand that. However I don't think many kids would turn away from shelters for that reason as we still see high shelter occupancy where they inform parents of the kids locations.

My position is, I'd rather have more parents informed of their kids' whereabouts. There will always be kids that avoid shelters no matter what.
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