Florida is so fking expensive right now.

Cant wait til all the Florida hype dies down and things go back to normal.

Hunger is eraticated. There is 0 poverty in america. The poorest of the poor are getting well-fed. Communism sucks and you lost

What about the other 96% of the planet jackass?

About 70% of that is Water, jackass.

I do love my Wegmans but publix subs with boars head meat takes that contest

Chicken finger pub subs? Maybe. But any other pub sub above a Danny’s favorite on everything? Hell no.

The success of X over Y does not necessarily entail that it is at Y's expense. What does my attending the second wedding of a close friend, and supporting him in that celebration, have to do with global peace and security?

In short: you see 'positive' and only translate that in your head and here as 'negative', as if by necessity, which is an incredibly illogical shortcoming. Surely your therapist has mentioned this aspect of your mental health (the negative world view) to you in your sessions?

Isn't it nice how society continues to function normally in the red states. Its almost as if enforcing rule of law is what keeps criminals in check and cities clean.

Also Chicken tender sub ftw $9 and stacked.

Thank you for your interest, however we're currently booked solid and not accepting new reservations at this time. May we recommend California?

Thanks breh, so everyone says. At the wedding tonight someone went 'a few months left to stock up on sleep'. I can't wait to be a dad, srs. A colleague of mine pulled his back picking up his daughter a month or two ago, and I'm glad I lift, let's put it that way heh.

Congrats on the kid. Hope he has a decent life in a world without oil and possibly WW3 or another cold war. Maybe the kid will refocus your vision of the world and where we have to be.

What do you mean by 'Florida' as having priced out others? "Pricing out" is a constant phenomenon, and as others have said ITT one of the tragic outcomes are "liberals" moving from places like California, after they have lead it down the path of near-complete cuckery, moving to States that are conservative strongholds (given their purchasing power) and trying to commit the same egregious acts again.
Yeah. Indeed interesting at all the screeching in NYC about places like Florida, and then you come here and think: "Wait a second..." lol.

Don't live near a Publix anymore but they used to have the best bang for the buck 8pc fried chicken for $7.99. This was 5 years ago tho so not sure anymore.

In general NYers always think their city's hot ****, but this is definitely a case of "hate us cause they aint us"

When they're down here, they still do the "man NY is so dope, this place sucks" and of course you reply with "why you here then." Crickets.

The joke in Florida is "how do you know a guy is from Brooklyn"

Because he'll tell you.

Checks out. We're here on a short vacation for the wedding, staying until Wednesday - going to do some tubing/kayaking/chilling from tomorrow.

At the wedding are a few former New Yorkers, who love it heh. Some have been here for 15+ years. I do enjoy NYC but there's no need to chit on other places to make it seem good, and the feel here in Florida is just so nice. The simple fact that people make eye contact and say hello is huge to folks like me, anyway.

Sometimes I wish more Americans could see that the fact there is so much to see and do in this country is part of what makes it such a special place to be.

The premise of your argument is false. I'll explain why:

1. When you say: X costs Y, and doesn't need to cost Y, it could cost 1/10th of Y, therefore 9/10th's of Y could be used for a "better purpose",
2. You assume that the "inflated" cost does not include anything else. You say here "the wedding", and "opulence"; yet
3. Do you understand how that 30,000 is broken down - all the people who got paid to make it happen?

You don't seem to understand basic services. If you wanted to be more accurate, you could say something like "the average billionaire doesn't do enough to make the world a better place", and here, listen:



A little reality check for you, Wincel: folks like you who have 100k+ posts online deriding the USA, claiming to be able to do so much better if only you were entrusted to do so, fail to recognize a simple solution: you could work harder, and earn more, and use that money to invest in projects you deem noteworthy. Yet you're a dire underachiever IRL, despite the fact that you claim to be incredibly well-educated. I mentioned your therapist not to flame you - but when was the last time you saw something in this world in a positive light, without the negative stain shadowing over it? That's what you need to work on - your inability to see good in things. And that's particularlyyourissue - not one that manifests in the world around you.

I love Florida too, best weather and beaches in the lower 48 imho

Been mirin' FL a lot lately.
But I have family down there and the heat (humidity) is beyond livable for half the year.

Plus, prices are through the roof lately. I guess it's the case in a lot of desirable areas now, it's hard to justify buying a $750k ranch with no basement in FL, knowing that it cost $300k just 5 years ago.

My biggest concern with FL is once DeSantis runs for POTUS (whether now or later) all the new in-flights to FL will usher in a Dem (probably black or Latin female) governor that will ruin the state.
On the upside for homeowners though, if history I'd any indication that will mean an even further influx of degen dems and drive property prices even higher, a la Austin, Seattle, Portland, Asheville, etc....

Yeah sure that stuff employs people. But the money could be used more productively. Peter Singer is not the final word on ethics, and there is no scenario on Earth where having a yacht collection or living in a home worth over 20 million dollars isn't immoral -- especially not in a city with hundreds of thousands of homeless.

I watched the entire argument by Peter.

Core point:

It isn't simply being a billionaire that is evil, but how they live.

I would ask you the following questions:

1) What is money?
2) Is the concentration of power a good or bad idea?
3) Is greed fundamentally a virtue?
4) If you're a deontologist, can everyone live like an American? If you're a consequentialist, what outcomes for the world would you deem "good"?
5) Do you believe every country can become a democracy?
6) Do you believe those in power have an obligation to wield that power responsibly?
7) Do you agree the Earth's resources are finite and that their distribution and use ought to maximize some notion of the outcomes you deemed "good"?
8) Is a bad government better than no government?

I have my own answers to these questions, but I'd like to hear your POV on them.

Seems like there are quite a few persons who moved here from NY State, yet when I spoke to them at breakfast this morning all are at least moderately conservative.

Some are a lot older than me too, one left Brooklyn in '97 and never looked back. She said when she watches hockey here (she is a rangers fan) half the stadium are in rangers gear so, heh.

Enjoy your stay in freedom land……K now gtfo

Theres a bucnha of em. I always assumed it was those wise enough to recognize our GOAT tax situation. The weathers nice, but it takes at least a year to get used to. That dry air up north ****s my skin up, I imagine you all drip constantly while in our humidity in sort of the same fashion.

Your girls also correct on sports. Tampa bro here, and at lightning games, the other team is always well represented. I always say 'no ones really born here everyones a transplant.' Obv there are local florida bros born and raised, but unless you're out fishing or at the sandbar, you're more likely to run into a north eastern transplant.

EDIT: Our politics used to sway blue to red (and back) every other election, but with the crazies now running the blue states, it feels like we're turning far more red. See Miami this last mid term. It hasn't been red in like 4 decades, until now. So I'd say it never really was politics driving the the population influx, but I would wager after covid, its certainly is a large part of it. Also on spread or I'd hit you with measles for recognizing freedom land for what it is.

lol @ how gullible you are

you've never worked at publix have you? Of course not

I have, that place is horrible to it's employees. I spent an entire year at publix doing nothing but fraud at the end of my shift, by orders from management. Since we weren't getting the numbers that the manager wanted, we started cheating. He had us scan EVERYTHING as donations with our scan guns, we'd scan and then toss it in the garbage.

They do this type of sh*t all the time, that company is evil and I don't miss one second of it. They asked me if I wanted to enter management and I didn't even let him finish the sentence, "NOPE"

Well, exactly. And HSI are active here too with lots of Fin work and huge monetary flows. One guy told me: LL, take 400k p.a and have that 400k p.a here and taste the difference. Now with remote work on the rise...this sort of move becomes more and more feasible.

Reps off spread too.

Publix is GOAT.

Trump is and has always been a frickin idiot. He flip flops as bad as our current crony in the White House.

Trump is threatened by DeSantis and should be. DeSantis is the future, Trump needs to stfu and go back the NYC where he belongs.

We spoke about this in detail in a way, but man I love the South.

How is the gun project going breh? LMK if donations can help.

Another funny thing about areas with Publix is the ratio of churches vs full contact strip clubs within that 3 mile radius. Gotta love Florida lol.

The future of conservatism in the USA needs to stick to its fundamental core value system, and then use that in a logical way to help create the USA that we deserve.

IMHO: silo system thought as in "let's win X State and leave Y to the dogs" weakens the entire system. I know that "federalist" conservatives aren't popular today, but I believe that we are the richest and most powerful country on this planet. And that we should continue to be this powerful, while empowering our systems through said value system.

As naive a take as this might seem, and to address Wincel by proxy: why should the USA spend all it does abroad, e.g., in South Sudan, when China swoops in with a 1.5 billion road infrastructure plan to capitalize its relationship with the power of the day, and continue to facilitate arms flows too?

Why should some parts of the USA be left to die, while foreign spending is much higher than most understand, and I can only dream of what that money could do locally. "Partners" of the USA need to step up, and I am looking at Germany and Japan here in particular.

And why am I stating this? Because I can easily discuss these sorts of things in a civil and logical manner with conservatives, and yet "democrats" start screeching about the US' "responsibility" internationally, and forget that some US individuals have done more for global development than entire nations in the G20.