Pretty unreal how much conflicting information is out there on this. Basically had a back ache for no reason that gradually got worse on Thursday until I've been forced to laying since Friday and probably was at the worst today. No sciatica leg pain, just limited range of motion and pain sitting or standing, even laying though

Also conflicting info on if you're supposed to move it. It's been 3 days resting so maybe resting doesn't work

Wtf

Are you a weak little pussy? If no then how would your back just disintegrate with no reason.

Also the best practice guidelines are very clear. Stay active, keep moving and don't be a pussy. You're back pain will likely resolve in under 8 weeks. (srs btw)

A muscle sprain would less likely cause shooting pain into legs etc, than damage to the discs. Which isn't to say it isn't a disc injury, but if it was, for a considerable injury, presenting symptoms are usually shooting, spreading pain to other nearby regions, and loss of strength in them. So based on what you say, it could be a muscle sprain or very minor damage to a disc. But i'm not Doctor so you should probably go see one either way if doesn't clear up in a week or so.

Thanks chieftains

The stay active advice I just am leery about. It's not just pain but feels like it'll give out if I persist walking around

walk more
ergonomic chair
have good bowl anal anus rectum movement in the ass.

It won't brah, were not mad of glass. Look up JOSPT lower back pain CPGs if you you want some further reading.

The odds of your back pain being anything serious are extremely extremely low. Just keep active, train around it as best you can and it will get better. Pain is complex and doesn't always = tissue damage or reflect the level of damage.

Ergonomic chair has no good evidence for reducing back pain and is for low test cucks, srs.

Is it possible I provoked a spasm from "guarding it" after I noticed the minor back ache at first? I have a history of psycho****tic bs and I did this with my knee years back
Have to wonder if it's one big mind initiated spasm from guarding that area

Wow

Herniated disc..not slipped.


Dead hangs and the mgill big 3.

You're welcome.

back pain is mostly psycho****tic.

If you've had recurring chronic back pain, it's probably in your head.... ESPECIALLY if it appeared for no significant reason (a significant reason is something like a massive fall, or car accident, etc)

If you threw out your back because you sat in the car for 2 hours one day, it's psycho****tic.

I'm familiar with Sarno, have his books and I've been thinking along these lines. This was acute though and put me on the floor for good. But also for no reason
Crazy ups and downs emotionally lately so maybe

I’ve pulled a back muscle before a couple times and the last thing you want to do is give it complete rest. Or it’ll keep locking up more

Almost certainly. Get your life back on the rails, and the pain will go away.

I had 8/10 sudden pain the other day, legs spasming, I literally sat down, and just thought about my life and the pain dropped to a 2/10 within a few hours.

I think you're onto something cause it only got worse and feels cramped like it needs moves
How much activity did you do?
I've pulled it before also quite a few times but never got this bad

That's wild. It's rare to see people note this relationship, I'm always getting new symptoms and finding it usually comes back to this

Yeah I have acid reflux, esophogus spasms, plantar fasciitis, LMAO.... When I was reading his book and he was listing the common psycho****tic phantom symptoms I was like, ho lee fuk.... I thought I was just hurt from doing lifting/sports, but digestive issues? acid reflux? along with my physical stuff.... It's pretty obvious at this point that he is 100% correct.

Basically if I sat on the couch for a while it would get all right and locked up and painful. Every now and then I’d get up and try to easy my way into doing some bodyweight deadlifts (no weight). After doing a few of those my back would feel a little better. Then I’d go to my home gym and do some deadlifts with the bar. Then it would feel a little bit better. Then 135/225/315 and my back was feeling awesome. Then go lay down on the couch and in a few hours it would start locking up again

This lasted for just a few days

herniated dik

Likewise man, I think I got his book like 13 years or so ago when I was dealing with all kinds of crazy bs. It started with IBS, then after a couple years became what I thought was a "liver issue" (was actually me muscle guarding around it creating the sensation), then something very similar to fibromyalgia. But I've had all kinds of stuff in between including gerd. The Mind is a buncha chit, but at least it's nothing "serious"

Yeah and I've met people who obviously have the mental issue but they are so convinced it's physical, and that is how powerful the brain is.... Your pain is real, your brain is feeding it to you because it is trying to help distract you.

Kind of an evolutionary adaptation. I feel bad for people who end up on a lifelong journey of pharma/pain clinics..... It literally never helps.... Just creates addiction.

a sprain entails something to do with muscle. a slip disc is just that, something to do with the spine.

both can present similar symptoms.

the worst thing you can do in most situations though is just to be inactive. this weakens and atrophies the muscle and makes it worse. not to mention decreased blood flow which causes less recovery. back pain isn't really understood all that well. there are cases of people with multiple slipped discs but present with zero pain. their MRI should indicate that they are handicapped but they are just fine. conversely, there are people who present perfectly healthy MRIs, or imaging systems don't pick up anything. but they still experience very real pain. that part of it is not very understood. often life stresses in general can exacerbate this.

sitting down for hours on end though can cause very real back pain for a lot of people. it's basically your muscles telling your body that you need to shift your position because your muscles have been in the same position an extended period of time. certain muscles will be overactive in a sitting position and certain muscles will be underactive creating an imbalance that can manifest in pain. EX: when you're sitting, hip flexors are active and glutes/back are inactive. over time these become weak and stiff to the point where sudden minor contractions can mess up your back. sitting can also trigger things like inflammation, reduced muscle oxygenation and blood flow causing pain.

The first half of your comment is excellent and very much in line with what is currently known about lower back pain.

The second half is nonsense though. Yes sitting for long periods can cause pain, so can standing. Just change position every so often. You're not going to "mess up your back" from sitting.