Lol. A great chin has more to do with your defensive skills, reaction times, and ability to see and expect strikes coming at you way more often then being born genetically like that.

Some have great chins genetically, some have great chins because of the above reasons listed.

Not coping at all, that's just facts.

You definitely wrong about the "People with chit chin/cannot take a punch get filtered out at the YMCA/local boxing gym level."

Is that why high level boxers get KO'd all the time? lmao

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UCeGayzK1Eo

that granite chin is pure genetic.

MMA bums would die to any of those single punch, never mind take them for 12 rounds lmao.

Very few to no boxers can "tank the fukk out of elite boxer's punches."

wtf are you on lol

Do you even understand the difference between MMA and Boxing gloves and striking?

It's well known Boxers have a higher chance of brain injuries than UFC fighters, because the UFC gloves allow their fighters to be knocked out quicker AND take less overall damage, compared to boxing gloves, which is far harder to knock out opponents lol

if margarito was being hit by UFC gloves like that, he would've been KO'd much much sooner.

again, you are displaying the inability to understand relativity.

high level boxers get KO'd because.... they are punched by OTHER HIGH LEVEL KO ARTIST.... IN BOXING. High level boxers aren't getting KO'd by random no name bum. Which is why is safe to conclude that MMA guys are fkn bums, because you have supposed elite fighters getting KO'd by actual bums. Like Fedor getting KO'd by Mitrione. Like GSP getting TKO'd by t-rex Matt Sera.

Nobody has a better chin because their defensive technique. This is a false correlation. You are mistaken the skill of mitigating damage vs raw chin. You can't seem to understand this because you don't know chit about boxing.

Chin is 90% genetic, 10% learning to roll with punches, anticipation, and deflecting skills.

So you claimed Mayweather has a great chin? Why? Because he has a raw chin? Maybe, but that's not exactly what we've witnessed. We witness his ability to avoid most powerful punches thrown at him.

Mayweather doesn't get knocked out because his defense is far above his opponents offense.

Seeing and reacting to a punch coming = not getting knocked out
Not seeing the exact same punch coming = much higher possibility to get knocked out.

This is just basic chit buddy.

this is low IQ babble cope.

Boxers get more brain injuries because their sport involves 100% punching someone in the face/head by elite combat athletes THAT ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO PUNCH vs MMA bums who can't punch for chit AND where 50% of the fight is grappling and one can lose by submission. Again, another false low IQ correlation.

Thinking there is a massive difference between 4oz and 8oz is another low IQ copium.

Be honest with yourself. Do you honestly fkn think there are people out there who go, "yeah, Deontay Wilder can punch, but I bet I wouldn't get KO'd if he's wearing 16oz instead of 8oz??" lulz.

Again, the existence of bareknuckle and lethwei completely disproves your 4oz cope nonsense. There are diminishing returns in glove size, and after a certain point, gloves exist to protect your hand, not to soften the blow. Anybody who actually fights know this.

"muh 4oz glove" is pure MMA copium. The concussive difference between 4oz and 8oz is practically the same. The only noticeable difference that glove size make at that low of a weight is how often more you get cut. Actual concussive force delivery varies little between going from 4 to 8oz. Stop coping.

Lmao. It makes a HUGE difference.

There is a huge difference between 12 and 16oz gloves also.

If you joined a boxing class, you would definitely know this lmao.

Tbh, your post right here, proves you know jack chit and have almost no experience

Again, you are displaying normie knowledge, but you keep speaking so confidently about boxing.

Mayweather doesn't get knocked out because of his defense AND his natural chin.

He has been hit CLEAN by KO power'd shot and survived. That's textbook definition of a great chin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ofe...nnel=FightEcho

the very first example shows him literally getting his tooth sent flying, yet he was barely wobbled by that punch. By MAIDANA, a known vicious power puncher.

Stop. Coping.

I said diminishing return, you retard.

Of course, if you keep increasing to the point that the gloves become pillows then obviously it will mitigate your punching power.

I specifically said 4oz to 8oz makes no fkn difference, you tard. I didn't say going from 4oz to 16oz makes no difference. That's you reading what you want to hear to cope.

Btw, notice how in all your arguments, you are literally using the top 1% of pro boxers?

Like you've watched a few fights on youtube of some greats, and you think you know it all lmao.

Also, that and far far worse has happened to many UFC fighters who still went on the continue and win the fight. So I guess UFC fighters have good chins too now? lol

Boxing gloves compared to UFC gloves are practically pillows.

I can confidently, and as demonstrated so far, I know more about combat sports than all you bums online combined lulz.

"why are you proving your points by using actual good boxers, bro"

"why aren't you making your points by using bums as example of top level boxers, bro?"

is your brain melting down? You are going off on random ass tangents now.

....which proves my point that it's kinda sad that so many fkn MMA bums like Tyrone Woodley, Ben Askren, and Anderson Silva got knock'd down or put to SLEEP by a youtuber -- not an actual boxer, -- wearing those boxing pillows LMAO.

Thanks for proving my point that MMA chins are fkn trash LMAO. Thanks for destroying your own argument.

lmao sit down Chang, you couldn't hurt a fly

go watch somemore youtube fights

Okay, this is another example of why I think you are retarded.

You build up supporting evidence in your head using fights like Jake Paul vs former UFC fighters lol.

Woodley and Askren are wrestlers for one thing lol

are you retarded? It's like you have no concept of logic or something.

Why wouldn't I use Jake Paul vs UFC champions as evidence of them having trash chin? You are so low IQ lol. It perfectly demonstrates my point.

You said MMA guys don't have trash chin.
You said boxing gloves are pillows compared to 4oz.

So, obviously, being any high IQ debater, I would use those two points to fkn destroy your dumb ass argument.

Thus, I bring up the fact that ACTUAL MMA CHAMPIONS (not bums) have gotten put to SLEEP by a youtuber (NOT EVEN AN ACTUAL REAL BOXER) wearing those EXACT gloves that you called pillows.

So if MMA CHAMPIONS (the creme de la creme of MMA) are getting KO'd by a youtuber wearing "pillows", then what other conclusion is there than that MMA guys have fkn trash chin, you imbecile?

Do you even logic? Do you even debate? Do you even consistent?

actually this is literally what I said:

some mma fighters have bad chins, some dont

some boxers have bad chins, some dont.

you just raging like an emotional bish and don't even know what you are arguing lol

Right, and I used your own fkn logic to destroy your piss poor argument.

Next time, try to think and be logical without nuthugging your MMA so hard. You might actually fkn make a coherent argument.

Nobody ever called Woodley or Askren "the creme de la creme of MMA" lol. They known for wrestling.

Silva was maybe like 5+ years prior to his fight with Paul. Those aren't real fights anyway lol

I'm a huge fan of boxing and MMA and Muay Thai. I honestly don't have a preference lol. That's you.

So actual UFC and Strikeforce Champions and an All Time Great aren't creme de la creme of MMA now? Is this some next level coping, or some chit?

Remember, the most confident retards during the whole Jake Paul vs MMA saga were the MMA retards who swore those guys would never lose to a youtuber.

dude stop bringing up Jake Paul fights, its embarrassing and can't take this seriously anymore lol

that's strange, considering you've displayed a complete lack of knowledge of boxing so far. You aren't even capable of distinguishing between being defensively responsible vs having a chin.

I'm 99% sure you're that freak who used to get BTFO almost daily around here.

Didn't you have a mental breakdown and run away?

I wish I could remember your old name.

says the boxing fan, who keeps bringing up Jake Paul fights to support his argument. lol

this guy sounds like he does BJJ LMAO. Look at him, schizo and emotional.

You have yet to be able to explain how bringing up Jake Paul undermines my argument.

Here, I'll give you the floor. This is now multiple post where you've suggested that somehow bringing up Jake Paul would diminish my argument.

Please, explain. Don't just pretend to be smug. Actually articulate yourself and prove you aren't low IQ for once.

1. MMA guys have trash chin
2. 8oz gloves are pillows -- you said this
3. Jake Paul, not an actual boxer, manages to knock down and knock out legends and champions of MMA wearing said pillows.
4. One can safely conclude that MMA guys do in fact have trash chin.

Now disprove that instead of going "lol stop bringing up Jake Paul".

What's more important for an elite boxer.

Being so defensively responsible your chin rarely gets tested.

Or having a great chin genetically, like Margarito, but still loses to the actual TOP elite fighters.

Hmmmm... seems like you put far more value on the 2nd than the 1st.

Jake Paul fights aren't real fights.

Weights classes are always off. Askren and Woodley fight at 170lbs in the UFC. and their first boxing fight they fight at 190lbs+?

It's youtube boxing bro, lol